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Beitrag 7. Dec 2013, 00:03 | Beitrag #2161
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ZITAT(Ferrus_Manus @ 6. Dec 2013, 23:37) *
Was sind das eigentlich für Achtrad-Fahrzeuge die die Seleka-Rebellen da einsetzen? Erinnern mich an einen Argo Avenger.

Gecko 8x8 ATV Rapid Deployment Logistical Vehicle (RDLV), basiert auf dem Argo Centaur 8x8.


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Beitrag 7. Dec 2013, 10:50 | Beitrag #2162
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Kann man annehmen das es sich hierbei um erbeutete Geckos der Südafrikaner handelt?

Ui, interessant. Diesselbe Firma bietet die Art gepanzerte Fahrerhäuser an, die auch beim Bison der Bundeswehr in Gebrauch sind.

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Beitrag 7. Dec 2013, 10:57 | Beitrag #2163
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ZITAT(MajorPayne @ 7. Dec 2013, 10:50) *
Kann man annehmen das es sich hierbei um erbeutete Geckos der Südafrikaner handelt?

Davon bin ich ebenfalls ausgegangen.


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Beitrag 7. Dec 2013, 15:54 | Beitrag #2164
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Seleka soldiers rest at their military camp in Bangui, Central African Republic, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2013 following a day-long gun battle between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias. Fighting came to the capital of Central African Republic on Thursday, leaving dozens of casualties and posing the biggest threat yet to the new government just as the U.N. Security Council authorized an intervention force to prevent a bloodbath between Christians and Muslims. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Seleka soldiers wearing lucky charms around their necks wait outside Bangui's hospital, Bangui, Central African Republic, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2013 following a day-long gun battle between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias. Fighting came to the capital of Central African Republic on Thursday, leaving dozens of casualties and posing the biggest threat yet to the new government just as the U.N. Security Council authorized an intervention force to prevent a bloodbath between Christians and Muslims. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Seleka soldiers patrol in Bangui, Central African Republic, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2013 following a day-long gun battle between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias. Fighting came to the capital of Central African Republic on Thursday, leaving dozens of casualties and posing the biggest threat yet to the new government just as the U.N. Security Council authorized an intervention force to prevent a bloodbath between Christians and Muslims. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Seleka fighter Cisco gestures outside a mosque where bodies of people killed during fighting are gathered in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 5, 2013. Rival militia forces fought fierce battles in Central African Republic's capital on Thursday and the U.N. authorised French military action to halt Muslim-Christian sectarian violence that threatens to escalate into widespread civilian massacres. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Seleka soldiers patrol in Bangui, Central African Republic, Thursday, Dec. 5, 2013 following a day-long gun battle between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias. Fighting came to the capital of Central African Republic on Thursday, leaving dozens of casualties and posing the biggest threat yet to the new government just as the U.N. Security Council authorized an intervention force to prevent a bloodbath between Christians and Muslims. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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French troops patrol in an armored vehicle in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 6, 2013. France launched its second major African intervention in a year on Friday as its troops rushed to the Central African Republic's capital, Bangui, to stem violence that already claimed over 100 lives this week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A convoy of Seleka soldiers patrol in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 6, 2013. France launched its second major African intervention in a year on Friday as its troops rushed to the Central African Republic's capital, Bangui, to stem violence that already claimed over 100 lives this week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun


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Beitrag 7. Dec 2013, 16:00 | Beitrag #2165
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Seleka soldiers sit in a pick-up truck in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 6, 2013. France launched its second major African intervention in a year on Friday as its troops rushed to the Central African Republic's capital, Bangui, to stem violence that already claimed over 100 lives this week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Young Seleka soldiers sit in a pick-up truck in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 6, 2013. France launched its second major African intervention in a year on Friday as its troops rushed to the Central African Republic's capital, Bangui, to stem violence that already claimed over 100 lives this week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Children walk, next to French militaries, along a road to Central African Republic on December 5, 2013. A UN Security Council resolution on Thursday gave French and African troops the green light to restore order in the Central African Republic, the latest in a string of military campaigns by France in its former colony. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOURFRED DUFOUR/AFP/Getty Images



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Soldiers patrol on December 5, 2013 in a street of Bangui as shots rang out and blasts from heavy weapons rocked several districts of the Central African capital this morning amid communal tensions ahead of a UN vote authorising force to stop the country's descent into chaos. The incidents came as the UN Security Council was set to vote today on a measure authorising thousands of African and French troops to end anarchy in the Central African Republic, where massacres have led to warnings of genocide-style strife. AFP PHOTO / SIA KAMBOUSIA KAMBOU/AFP/Getty Images



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French forces return from a patrol at an undisclosed location in Bangui, Central African Republic, Friday Dec. 6 2013, a day after gun battles between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias left over 100 dead and scores wounded. To try to put an end to sectarian violence, the UN security council passed a motion allowing French troops to deploy in the country in order to protect civilians and insure security by all necessary means. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Internally displaced people gather at bangui's airport, Central African Republic, Friday Dec. 6 2013, as French military helicopters land, a day after gun battles between Seleka soldiers and Christian militias left over 100 dead and scores wounded. To try to put an end to sectarian violence, the UN security council passed a motion allowing French troops to deploy in the country in order to protect civilians and insure security by all necessary means. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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A French military vehicle patrols past Seleka soldiers during fighting between Muslim and Christian militias in Bangui December 6, 2013. France rushed troops to Central African Republic on Friday but violence between Muslim and Christian militias continued unabated, spiralling into widespread killings of civilians. Hundreds of soldiers started arriving in CAR from neighbouring countries, hours after Paris was given a U.N. green light for the mission to restore order. French troops patrolled the main roads and warplanes flew low over town. But residents and rights groups reported waves of killings in neighbourhoods despite major gunbattles easing off. The Red Cross said it had collected 281 bodies from two days of violence in Bangui, but many more had been killed. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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Seleka soldiers patrol on a road during fighting between Muslim and Christian militias in Bangui December 6, 2013. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French soldier looks out from an armoured vehicle during a patrol in Bangui, the capital of Central African Republic, on December 6, 2013 (AFP Photo/Sia Kambou)


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Beitrag 9. Dec 2013, 18:09 | Beitrag #2166
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French soldiers leave their base in Mpoko international airport in Bangui December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A French soldier patrols on foot as a woman cheers to show her support in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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People cheer and wave at French soldiers (not pictured) patrolling in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Seleka soldiers patrol a street in Bangui December 7, 2013. The writing on the vehicle reads "Danger of death, no respect". REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers guard a checkpoint at the airport in Bangui December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A French soldier stands guard near residents in Bangui December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers patrol in Bangui December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A French soldier patrols in Bangui December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A woman walks past French soldiers on patrol in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 7, 2013. French soldiers were cheered by residents on Saturday as they began patrolling densely populated neighbourhoods of Central African Republic's capital, Bangui, which has been rocked by waves of killings between Muslim and Christian communities. Picture taken December 7, 2013. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French soldier patrols in the streets of Bangui on December 7, 2013 (AFP Photo/Sia Kambou)


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Beitrag 9. Dec 2013, 18:19 | Beitrag #2167
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Déploiement - François Hollande a annoncé samedi qu'il y aurait 1 600 soldats français déployés en Centrafrique samedi 7 décembre au soir pour aider le pays livré au chaos à retrouver calme et stabilité.
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Bouar - Une colonne d'environ 200 militaires français, en provenance du Cameroun, se dirige vers la ville de Bouar, dans l'ouest de la Centrafrique.
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Liesse - Les premiers renforts terrestres de l'opération Sangaris, en provenance du Cameroun, ont fait, samedi 7 décembre, une entrée triomphale dans la ville de Bouar, centre névralgique de l'ouest de la Centrafrique.
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Bangui - Des soldats français patrouillent à pied dans les rues de Bangui, le 7 décembre.
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Civils - Entre 3 000 et 4 000 civils fuyant les violences qui opposent milices chrétiennes et musulmanes se sont réunis à proximité de l'aéroport de Bangui, où sont basées les forces françaises.
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Mosquée - Environ quatre-vingts corps portant des traces de machette ou de balle ont été retrouvés jeudi 5 décembre au matin dans une mosquée de Bangui et les rues environnantes.
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Croix-Rouge - Des membres de la Croix-Rouge emportent un corps le 6 décembre, près d'une base des anciens rebelles de la Séléka où ont eu lieu des affrontements.
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Blindé - Un véhicule blindé de l'armée française patrouille dans les rues de Bangui, le 6 décembre.
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Beitrag 9. Dec 2013, 18:28 | Beitrag #2168
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French soldiers patrol on foot at the entrance to the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. The sign reads "Welcome to Bangui." REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French military sniper readies his rifle in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French soldier crouches while on a foot patrol Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A man detained by Seleka soldiers and accused by them of being an anti-balaka militia member, sits with other detainees in Bangui December 8, 2013. Residents of the Central African Republic gathered in churches to mourn on Sunday after hundreds were killed in violence between Christian and Muslim communities, prompting France to intervene in its former colony. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers patrol on foot in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French soldier readies his weapon while lying on the ground in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A French military armored vehicle drives past a child in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Herve Serefio



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A Seleka soldier hits a fellow soldier with a belt in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Seleka soldiers drive past French soldiers on patrol in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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A French sniper holds his rifle in Bangui December 8, 2013. France is deploying 1,600 troops to its former colony after the U.N. Security Council on Thursday authorised it to use force to help African peacekeepers struggling to restore order. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun


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Beitrag 9. Dec 2013, 22:23 | Beitrag #2169
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Hallo Dave76,

gibt es Infos welche Truppenteile von den Franzosen dorthin verlegt wurden? Denn mann sieht ja unterschiedliche Ausrüstungsstände teilweise mit altem Famas dann wieder welche mit der neuen Variante.
Auch bei den Helmen etc. sorry das ich frage kenne mich aber in Richtung Französische Streitkräfte überhaupt nicht aus und wüsste das halt gerne.
Eine dritte Frage hätte ich noch zur Scharfschützen Waffe der Franzosen diese nutzen ja aktuell das Fr-2, was ich mich schon imerm gefragt habe warum das Zweibein soweit hinten sitzt gegenüber anderen Präzisionsgewehren. Ja der Lauf hat diese Polymer Umantelung zwecks Hitzeflimmern trotzdem sehe ich in der Positionierung keine Vorteile?


Vielen Dank schonmal im Voraus für die Antworten


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Beitrag 9. Dec 2013, 22:36 | Beitrag #2170
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Eine dritte Frage hätte ich noch zur Scharfschützen Waffe der Franzosen diese nutzen ja aktuell das Fr-2, was ich mich schon imerm gefragt habe warum das Zweibein soweit hinten sitzt gegenüber anderen Präzisionsgewehren. Ja der Lauf hat diese Polymer Umantelung zwecks Hitzeflimmern trotzdem sehe ich in der Positionierung keine Vorteile?


FR F2

Vorteile gibts da eigentlich keine wirklichen. Schnelleres schwenken und man bleibt vielleicht nicht so schnell hängen, als wenn das vorne montiert wäre. Das geht aber nicht, weil der Schaft zu kurz ist. Am Lauf wäre auch wieder suboptimal. Also hat man es da montiert wo Platz war. Der Polymermantel ist auch nicht stabil genug.

Ausserdem ist das noch vom FR F1 übernommen, das war aus der Mitte der 1960er Jahre, da waren Zweibeine noch nicht so in Mode wie heute.

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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 10:32 | Beitrag #2171
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ZITAT(StuffzBock @ 9. Dec 2013, 22:23) *
Hallo Dave76,

gibt es Infos welche Truppenteile von den Franzosen dorthin verlegt wurden? Denn mann sieht ja unterschiedliche Ausrüstungsstände teilweise mit altem Famas dann wieder welche mit der neuen Variante.
Auch bei den Helmen etc. sorry das ich frage kenne mich aber in Richtung Französische Streitkräfte überhaupt nicht aus und wüsste das halt gerne.
Eine dritte Frage hätte ich noch zur Scharfschützen Waffe der Franzosen diese nutzen ja aktuell das Fr-2, was ich mich schon imerm gefragt habe warum das Zweibein soweit hinten sitzt gegenüber anderen Präzisionsgewehren. Ja der Lauf hat diese Polymer Umantelung zwecks Hitzeflimmern trotzdem sehe ich in der Positionierung keine Vorteile?


Vielen Dank schonmal im Voraus für die Antworten


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Ist noch ein wenig unübersichtlich, da hier praktisch zwei Operationen gleichzeitig laufen, Opération Sangaris und Opération Boali.
Sangaris besteht prinzipiell aus Elementen der 11ème Brigade Parachutiste, also 3ème RPIMa (Régiment de Parachutistes d'Infanterie de Marine), 8ème RPIMa, 1er RCP (Régiment de Chasseurs Parachutistes), 1er RHP (Régiment de Hussards Parachutistes), sowie aus 21ème RIMa (Régiment d'Infanterie de Marine), 1er RHC (Régiment d’Hélicoptères de Combat) und 25ème RGA (Régiment de Génie de l'Air). Dazu kommt noch ein Spezialkräftekontingent.

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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 10:55 | Beitrag #2172
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French soldiers gather weapons they found in a house in the Combattant neighborhood, near Bangui's airport, on Dec. 9. Fred Dufour / AFP - Getty Images





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French soldiers arrest ex-seleka rebels after finding weapons in a house in Combattant neighborhood near Bangui's airport, on December 9, 2013. French troops on Monday began disarming fighters in the Central African Republic after a swell in sectarian violence that has claimed hundreds of lives and terrified inhabitants. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR





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French soldiers provide first aid to a man suffering from gunshot wounds during a disarmament operation in Bangui, on December 9, 2013. French troops on Monday began disarming fighters in the Central African Republic after a swell in sectarian violence that has claimed hundreds of lives and terrified inhabitants. AFP PHOTO / SIA KAMBOU



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A Christian man chases a suspected Seleka officer in civilian clothes with a knife near the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. The Seleka man was taken into custody by French forces who fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



ZITAT
French troops detain a suspected Seleka officer , preventing Christian mobs from lynching him near the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. The Seleka man was taken into custody by French forces who fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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French soldiers apprehend a suspected Seleka officer in civilian clothes near the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. The Seleka man was taken into custody by French forces who fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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French soldiers arrest a man in Bangui, on December 9, 2013. French troops on Monday began disarming fighters in the Central African Republic after a swell in sectarian violence that has claimed hundreds of lives and terrified inhabitants. AFP PHOTO / SIA KAMBOU


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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 11:07 | Beitrag #2173
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A French soldier screams at mobs of Christians attacking suspected Seleka members before firing warning shots near the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deploy in the capital. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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French troops deploy in a wind conditions [sic] after being engaged near the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. French forces fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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A Christian man points suspected Seleka members to a French soldier in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. French forces fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)


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A French soldier speaks to suspected Christian militia member Sincere Banyodi, 32, who lays wounded by machete blows in the Kokoro neighborhood of Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Vigilante crowds said they spotted him with grenades and turned him to French forces. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. French forces fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



ZITAT
French troops patrol past two Seleka vehicles set on fire by Christian mobs in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. At least one Seleka suspect was stoned to death by the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Christian and Muslim soldiers stand next to each other in Bangui December 9, 2013. French troops in Central African Republic clashed with gunmen in the capital Bangui on Monday as they searched for weapons in an operation to disarm rival Muslim and Christian fighters responsible for hundreds of killings since last week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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Seleka commander General Yaya Mahamat addresses troops in Bangui December 9, 2013. French troops in Central African Republic clashed with gunmen in the capital Bangui on Monday as they searched for weapons in an operation to disarm rival Muslim and Christian fighters responsible for hundreds of killings since last week. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers in an armored vehicle pass ex-Seleka rebels in truck as they patrol in front of the presidential palace in Bangui on December 8, 2013. AFP PHOTO/ SIA KAMBOU



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French soldiers in an armored vehicle arrive at Bangui's airport on December 8, 2013. AFP PHOTO/ SIA KAMBOU



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French forces arrest Seleka they say fired on them 3 hrs ago. Weapons found in their vehicle #bangui #car pic.twitter.com/WpQa5CJutY Tristan Redman


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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 18:34 | Beitrag #2174
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French soldiers arrest an alleged ex-seleka rebel denounced by inhabitatns in Combattant neighborhood near Bangui's airport, on December 9, 2013. French troops on Monday began disarming fighters in the Central African Republic after a swell in sectarian violence that has claimed hundreds of lives and terrified inhabitants. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR



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A man attacks an alleged ex seleka rebel arrested by French soldiers in Bangui, on December 9, 2013. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR



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A man speaks to a French soldier during a disarmament operation in the Combattant neighbourhood near the airport of Bangui, on December 9, 2013 (AFP Photo/Fred Dufour)



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A French soldier takes fire position during a disarmament operation in Bangui, on December 9, 2013. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR



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French soldier sarrest an alleged ex-seleka rebel denounced by inhabitatns in Combattant neighborhood near Bangui's airport, on December 9, 2013. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR



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French soldiers arrest ex-seleka rebels after finding weapons in a house in Combattant neighborhood near Bangui's airport, on December 9, 2013. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR



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A French soldiers is about to check a driver's identity at a checkpoint in Combattant neighborhood near BAngui's airport, on December 9, 2013. AFP PHOTO / FRED DUFOUR


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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 18:50 | Beitrag #2175
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ZITAT(Dave76 @ 10. Dec 2013, 11:07) *
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A Christian man points suspected Seleka members to a French soldier in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. French forces fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



Oha, noch eine "neue" Version des Famas, hat jemand Infos zu diesem Oberteil mit niedriger Schiene und dem offenbar zur seitlich verlängerten/umgerüsteten Verschlusshebel?


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Dass die Russen viele Verluste haben aufgrund ihrer offensiven Vorgehensweise, die sie sich bei Zapp Brannigan abgeschaut haben, ist davon unbenommen.
 
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Was sind das für Kräfte, die mit G36- bzw. SCAR-Varianten bewaffnet sind?
 
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A Christian man points suspected Seleka members to a French soldier in Bangui, Central African Republic, Monday Dec. 9, 2013. Both Christian and Muslim mobs went on lynching sprees as French Forces deployed in the capital. French forces fired warning shots to disperse the crowds. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



Oha, noch eine "neue" Version des Famas, hat jemand Infos zu diesem Oberteil mit niedriger Schiene und dem offenbar zur seitlich verlängerten/umgerüsteten Verschlusshebel?

Habe solch ein FAMAS oder ein ähnliches schon einmal Anfang/Mitte dieses Jahres im Einsatz in Mali gesehen:





Ich denke mal es handelt sich einfach um ein FELIN in vereinfachter/abgespeckter oder früherer Form.


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Was sind das für Kräfte, die mit G36- bzw. SCAR-Varianten bewaffnet sind?

Entweder Groupement des Commandos Parachutistes (GCP) des 3e oder 8e RPIMa (also ähnlich dem, was die BW bei den Fallschirmjägern als spezialisierte Kräfte bezeichnet: EGB und Fallschirmspezialzüge), oder tatsächlich Spezialkräfte (Forces Spéciales) des französische Spezialkräfteoberkommandos COS.


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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 19:51 | Beitrag #2179
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Was sind das für Kräfte, die mit G36- bzw. SCAR-Varianten bewaffnet sind?


Die Kräfte des Commandement des Opérations Spéciales (COS) verwenden das SCAR. Und wo siehst du da ein G36?

EDIT: Dave war schneller.

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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 19:56 | Beitrag #2180
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Was sind das für Kräfte, die mit G36- bzw. SCAR-Varianten bewaffnet sind?

Und wo siehst du da ein G36?

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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 19:56 | Beitrag #2181
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ZITAT(Dave76 @ 10. Dec 2013, 19:48) *
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Was sind das für Kräfte, die mit G36- bzw. SCAR-Varianten bewaffnet sind?

Entweder Groupement des Commandos Parachutistes (GCP) des 3e oder 8e RPIMa (also ähnlich dem, was die BW bei den Fallschirmjägern als spezialisierte Kräfte bezeichnet: EGB und Fallschirmspezialzüge), oder tatsächlich Spezialkräfte (Forces Spéciales) des französische Spezialkräfteoberkommandos COS.


Kleiner Einwand... Fallschirmjäger sind bereits spezialisierte Kräfte mit Grundbefähigung für Spezielle Operationen,, EGB ist dann das Bindeglied zwischen spezialisierten Kräften und Spezialkräften. EGB-Status haben aber nicht nur die EGB-Kp in den FschJgBtl/ FschJgRgt, auch FschSpezZg und (bis zur Auflösung) die FeSpähLehrKp 200 können als EGB-Einheiten klassifiziert werden.



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Beitrag 10. Dec 2013, 20:08 | Beitrag #2182
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Danke, waren ein wenig schwer zu sehen auf den ersten Blick.


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French troops wait for French President Francois Hollande to address the troops during a stopover from South Africa in Bangui, Central African Republic, Tuesday Dec. 10, 2013. Two French soldiers were killed in combat overnight since France stepped up its presence to restive the former French colony to help quell inter-religious violence. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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French troops stand at the airport runway in Bangui December 10, 2013. President Francois Hollande flew into Central African Republic hours after two French soldiers were killed in fighting and praised his troops for tackling "horrendous violence" against women and children and helping avert a slide into civil war. (REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun)



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French President Francois Hollande shakes hands with a French soldier in Bangui December 10, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French President Francois Hollande addresses the troops during a stopover from South Africa in Bangui, Central African Republic, Tuesday Dec. 10, 2013. Two French soldiers were killed in combat overnight since France stepped up its presence to restive the former French colony to help quell inter-religious violence. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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A French soldier listens to French President Francois Hollande's speech in Bangui December 10, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers are seen on their military vehicle at the Miskine district in Bangui December 10, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun



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French soldiers patrol on military trucks on the streets in Bangui December 10, 2013. REUTERS/Emmanuel Braun

Die letzten beiden Bilder zeigen nun mit ziemlicher Sicherheit Forces Spéciales des COS.


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Chadian troops within the FOMAC forces reload their weapons as they leave the area next to the airport in Bangui, Central African Republic, Tuesday Dec. 10, 2013. Two French soldiers were killed in combat in Central African Republic's capital, the first French casualties since French President Francois Holland ordered a stepped-up military presence in the restive former colony to help quell inter-religious violence. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Christians hold up a sign that reads: "Chadian FOMAC Fired on the Population. Djotona Must Resign Immediately", as they protest against the presence of Chadian troops within the FOMAC forces in Bangui, Central African Republic, Tuesday Dec. 10, 2013. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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Soldiers of the Multinational Force of Central Africa (FOMAC) patrol within the Catholic church in Bangui, Central African Republic, December 10, 2013. The French president flew into Central African Republic hours after two French soldiers were killed in fighting and praised his troops for tackling "horrendous violence" against women and children and helping avert a slide into civil war. REUTERS/Sam Phelps



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FOMAC troops deploy to secure the burial of 16 Muslims 15 kms (10 miles) North of Bangui, Central African Republic, Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2013. More than 500 people have been killed over the past week in sectarian fighting in Central African Republic, aid officials said Tuesday, as France reported that gunmen fatally shot two of its soldiers who were part of the intervention to disarm thousands of rebels accused of attacking civilians. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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FOMAC troops provide security outside the Nour Islam mosque where 16 bodies were loaded into a truck for burial in Bangui, Central African Republic, Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2013. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)



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A man in civilian clothes walks to the burial of of 16 Muslims 15 kms (10 miles) North of Bangui, Central African Republic, Wednesday, Dec. 11, 2013. (AP Photo/Jerome Delay)


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Die Franzosen schreiben "Wirkung geht vor Deckung" bei ihren Fahrzeugen aber noch richtig groß.


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Kurze Frage zu dem Felin, speziel zu der Griffkonstruktion an der Trompete, hatte das schon mal jemand in der Hand?

Es zwingt ja schon ein bisschen sich in manchen Situation mehr zu exponieren. Ich denke ist es als "Ersatz-Zweibein" ausgelegt und dient tatsächlich der Stabilität, aber es wirkt auf mich in erste Linie unpratisch.
Welcher technische Grund steht hinter dieser Konstruktion?

 
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Ich meine, die in der tat gewöhnungsbedürftige Konstruktion hängt mit der Kabelführung zu dem im Vordergrif integrierten Bedienpanel zusammen.

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Was ist das für eine Gewehrgranate? AC58?
 
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Ich meine, die in der tat gewöhnungsbedürftige Konstruktion hängt mit der Kabelführung zu dem im Vordergrif integrierten Bedienpanel zusammen.


Ab gesehen davon das ich, ohne es natürlich je benutzt zu haben, die Steuerelemente an dem Punkt an einer Waffe für deplatziert halt, war der Weg "oben rum" wegen Temperaturproblemen versperrt oder hat der Ing. ne Denkblockade?
 
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In einer furchtbaren Schrecksekunde (H&K Skandal fegt durch die Presse) fürchtete ich das die französischen Soldaten ein G-36 in Zentralafrika gefunden haben. wink.gif
 
 
 

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