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Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 12. Jul 2013, 11:49

Hi,
mal �ne kurze Frage :

http://abload.de/img/2013-07-0711.39.11mcsow.jpg

Bild stammt etwa von �97/�98 und zeigt einen Angeh�rigen der US Navy SEALs. Hat irgendwer zuf�llig weitere Fotos aus derselben Fotoserie o.�. rumliegen ?

Danke !

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Die Google-Bildersuche verr�t mir, das es sich bei dem Herrn um Mark Metherell handelt. Gefallen im Irak 2008.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 12. Jul 2013, 14:04

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Mir ist da jetzt keine Bilderserie bekannt, oder meinst du einfach ganz allgemein SEAL-Bilder aus dieser Zeit (sp�te 90er)?

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@ writer: http://www.whq-forum.de/invisionboard/index.php?s=&showtopic=29782&view=findpost&p=1163253

-�bergrosse Bilder verlinken oder Thumbnails nutzen (maximal erlaubte Bilderbreite sind 1024 Pixel)

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 12. Jul 2013, 15:04

Mh, schade :/
Seal-Bilder sp�te 90er w�ren dann auch gut

Danke !

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 13. Jul 2013, 16:45

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Joa, ich durchforste mal mein Archiv, kann aber ein wenig dauern...

Kein Problem!

Danke dir Dave !

Bin mit dem Handy schon auf diese Seite gesto�en,
http://gearguide.ru/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=566

Aber hier und in den anderen Threads in dem Board, ist der Zeitraum 96-98 ausgespart :/

Gru�.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 15. Jul 2013, 18:05

ZITAT(Father Christmas @ 12. Jul 2013, 16:04)

Mh, schade :/
Seal-Bilder sp�te 90er w�ren dann auch gut

Danke !

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Joa, ich durchforste mal mein Archiv, kann aber ein wenig dauern...

So, hier mal ein Teil von dem, was ich gefunden habe, NSW Zeitraum 1995-98:

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NAVAL AIR BASE CORONADO, California (June 8, 1998) -- Navy SEALs attached to SEAL Team One, Naval Air Base Coronado, CA, conducts training using the Nikon/Kodak DCS 425 underwater digital camera which can sends real time digital images to decision makers, and an LPI LPD tracking device uses brevity codes to send both mission status and precise longitude/latitude. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Ted Banks. (RELEASED)

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NAVAL AIR BASE CORONADO, California (June 8, 1998) -- Navy SEALs attached to SEAL Team One, Naval Air Base Coronado, CA, coducts training using the Nikon/Kodak DCS 425 underwater digital camera, which sends real time digital images to decision makers. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer�s Mate 2nd Class Ted Banks. (RELEASED)

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CARIBBEAN SEA (Oct. 2,1997) -- Members of SEAL Team Two conduct SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV) training in the Caribbean. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 1st Class Andy McKaskle. (Released)

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U.S. Navy Lt.Kevin McVadon from Great Falls, Virginia, assigned to Sea Air Land (SEAL) Team Eight, covers his squad from an SH-60 helicopter during a Helicopter Visit, Board, Search and Seizure (HVBSS) exercise on board Commander Sixth Fleet Command ship USS LaSalle (AGF 3) May 20, 1996. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Chris Vickers (Released)

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Sniper, Boatswain Mate Third Class (BM3) Todd Hubert is assisted by his spotter, Seaman (SN) Chad Luck who calls wind direction and determines where the rounds impact through the spotting scope. Both men are members of Naval Special Warfare Unit One-SEAL Team Five. The rifle is an M-91 .308 caliber sniper rifle equipped with a 20-X power telescopic sight. 18 May 1995. US DoD photo by PH3 HEATHER S. GORDON

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A US Navy Lieutenant, a SEAL from SEAL Team 8, runs down a firing range holding a Colt 5.56mm M4 Carbine Rifle. He's in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. 20 March 1998. JO2 Charles Neff, USN

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, manuevers with a M-60 machine gun on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. 20 March 1998. JO2 Charles Neff, USN

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U.S. Navy SEALs from Naval Special Warfare Group Two rehearse ship-to-ship boarding procedures using Zodiac RIB boats deployed from the coastal patrol boat USS Chinook (PC 9), on April 28, 1996, during Combined Joint Task Force Exercise '96. More than 53,000 military service members from the United States and the United Kingdom are participating in Combined Joint Task Force Exercise 96 on military installations in the Southeastern United States and in waters along the Eastern seaboard. DoD photo by Mike Corrado

Geschrieben von: Dave76 15. Jul 2013, 21:47

Wie angek�ndigt, erstmal weitere Bilder aus der von FC gew�nschten Periode, 95-98:

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Members of Seal Team 3 transmit a surf report during Exercise KERNEL BLITZ '97. KERNEL BLITZ is a bi-annual Commander-in-Chief Pacific (CINCPAC) fleet training exercise (FLEETEX) focused on operational/tactical training of Commander, Third Fleet (C3F)/ I Marine Expeditionary Forces (MEF) and Commander, Amphibious Group 3 (CPG-3)/ 1st Marine Division (MARDIV). KERNEL BLITZ is designed to enhance the training of Sailors and Marines in the complexities of brigade-size amphibious assault operations.

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Extraction of Seal Team Three after the assault on Red Beach during Exercise KERNEL BLITZ '97. KERNEL BLITZ is a bi-annual Commander-in-Chief Pacific (CINCPAC) fleet training exercise (FLEETEX) focused on operational/tactical training of Commander, Third Fleet (C3F)/ I Marine Expeditionary Forces (MEF) and Commander, Amphibious Group 3 (CPG-3)/ 1st Marine Division (MARDIV). KERNEL BLITZ is designed to enhance the training of Sailors and Marines in the complexities of brigade-size amphibious assault operations.

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Members of Navy SEAL Team 5 practice small boat tactics in a Naval Special Warfare Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat (RHIB) off the USS JUNEAU (LPD 10) during Exercise KERNEL BLITZ '97. The 11-meter RHIB is a high-speed extreme-weather craft that carries a crew of three and a SEAL element. KERNEL BLITZ is taking place off the coast of Southern California and Camp Pendleton to train Navy and Marine Corps personnel in amphibious operations.

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, shoots a Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifle on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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US Navy SEALS, from SEAL Team 8, shoot Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, shoots an M-60 machine gun on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL team 8, shoots an M-60 machine gun on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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US Navy SEALs shoot and sight in their Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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US Navy SEALS adjust the sights on their Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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Two US Navy SEALs load M-60 machine guns at a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

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A US Navy SEAL (Third from front), from SEAL Team 8, shoots a Colt 5.5.6mm M-4 Carbine rifle, with M203 Grenade Launcher attached, on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. March 20, 1998. (Released to Public)DoD photo by: JO2 CHARLES NEFF, USN

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 20:08

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A US Navy SEAL (Squatting), from SEAL Team 8, uses the scope on his Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifle, with M203 Grenade Luncher attached, to help other SEALS sight in their weapons on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, shoots a Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifle on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. The M-4 has a M203 Grenade Launcher attached. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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US Navy SEALs, from SEAL Team 8, shoot Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. The M-4 in the foreground has a M203 Grenade Launcher attached. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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US Navy SEALS, from SEAL Team 8, shoot Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, shoots a Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifle on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. Some of the M4s have a M203 Grenade Launcher attached. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL team 8, shoot M-4 Carbine rifles on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL team 8, shoots a Colt 5.56MM M4 Carbine, with a M203 Grenade Launcher attached, on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

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A US Navy SEAL, from SEAL Team 8, shoots a Colt 5.56mm M-4 Carbine rifle on a firing range in Kuwait as part of the Southwest Asia buildup. JO2 Charles Neff, USN. 3/20/1998

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 20:37

Weiter geht's mit den 80ern:

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member wearing diving gear participates in a special forces exercise. 7/1/1983

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Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team members, wearing desert camouflage gear, prepare to use an AN/PAQ-1 laser target designator to assist A-7 Corsair II aircraft pilots as they drop laser guided bombs. The laser projector will help to distinguish the various targets for an accurate hit/kill ratio. The SEAL team members are participants of Exercise QUICK FORCE 84-3. The team member in the foreground holds an M16A1 rifle. Photographer's Name: TSGT ROB MARSHALL. Location: GILA BEND RANGE. Date Shot: 4/12/1984

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A US Army UH-1H Iroquois helicopter carries US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members and Ecuadorian naval infantry commandos back to shore during Exercise UNITAS XXVI. Photographer's Name: SSGT GUSTAVO A. GARCIA. Location: SALINAS BEACH. Date Shot: 7/1/1985

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US Army UH-1H Iroquois helicopters hover offshore as US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members and Ecuadorian naval infantry commandos jump into the water during Exercise UNITAS XXVI. Photographer's Name: SSGT GUSTAVO A. GARCIA. Location: SALINAS BEACH. Date Shot: 7/1/1985

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Members of a Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team practice parachuting from aircraft over Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico. Date Shot: 1/1/1986

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Members of a Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team practice parachuting from aircraft over Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico. Date Shot: 1/1/1986

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 20:37

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team member helps a comrade adjust parachute gear prior to a jump during an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team/SEAL Team joint parachuting exercise near Naval Air Station, Rota, Spain. Photographer's Name: PH3 ROBIN L. HAYHURST. Date Shot: 10/9/1986

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A member of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team parachutes toward the water during an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team/Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team joint parachuting exercise near Naval Air Station, Rota, Spain. Photographer's Name: PH3 ROBIN L. HAYHURST. Date Shot: 10/9/1986

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A member of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team is picked up in an inflatable recovery boat after parachuting into the water during an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team/SEAL Team joint parachuting exercise near Naval Air Station, Rota, Spain. Photographer's Name: PH3 ROBIN L. HAYHURST. Date Shot: 10/9/1986

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Geschrieben von: Herki 16. Jul 2013, 20:40

Wow, viele tolle Bilder die ich noch nicht kannte.

Besten Dank daf�r

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 20:55

8oer:

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A member of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team lands in the drop zone during an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team/SEAL Team joint parachuting exercise near Naval Air Station, Rota, Spain. Photographer's Name: PH3 ROBIN L. HAYHURST.
Date Shot: 10/9/1986

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Members of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team rig airdrop equipment prior to an Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Team/SEAL Team joint parachuting exercise near Naval Air Station, Rota, Spain. Photographer's Name: PH3 ROBIN L. HAYHURST.
Date Shot: 10/9/1986

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members ride aboard a Seafox special warfare patrol craft from Special Boat Unit 12 during an exercise. Photographer's Name: PH2 PAUL PAPPAS. Date Shot: 12/1/1986

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members ride aboard a Seafox special warfare patrol craft from Special Boat Unit 12 during an exercise. Photographer's Name: PH2 Pappas. Date Shot: 12/1/1986

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U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) members emerge from the water during tactical warfare training. The SEAL member in the foreground is armed with an M-16A1 rifle equipped with an M203 grenade launcher. The SEAL member on the right is armed with an HK-33KA1 rifle. Date Shot: 12/1/1986

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members confer aboard a 20th Special Operations Squadron MH-53 helicopter before their insertion into the mission area during Exercise SOLID SHIELD '87. Photographer's Name: SSGT JOSEPH FALLON
Date Shot: 4/28/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members head for a mission debriefing after being transported to the amphibious command ship USS MOUNT WHITNEY (LCC 20) aboard a 20th Special Operations Squadron MH-53 helicopter during Exercise SOLID SHIELD '87. Photographer's Name: SSGT JOSEPH FALLON. Date Shot: 5/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members apply face camouflage during Exercise SOLID SHIELD '87. Photographer's Name: SGT PAUL TUBRIDY. Date Shot: 5/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members and a 20th Special Operations Squadron MH-53 helicopter crew load a raft onto their helicopter during Exercise SOLID SHIELD '87. Photographer's Name: SGT PAUL TUBRIDY. Date Shot: 5/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member Petty Officer 3rd Class (PO3) Thomas L. Taylor applies camouflage to his face during Exercise SOLID SHIELD '87. Photographer's Name: SGT PAUL TUBRIDY. Date Shot: 5/1/1987

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A trainee fires an M-9 9mm pistol on the pistol range during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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Trainees dressed in scuba gear come ashore carrying M16A1 rifles during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 21:16

80er:

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A mud-covered trainee lies exhausted in the sand during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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A trainee parachutes to the ground during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: EN1 Nick North. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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A trainee fires at a target on the pistol range during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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Trainees assemble M-16A1 rifles in a classroom during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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Trainees prepare to close a hatch cover during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: EN1 Nick North. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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A mud-covered trainee participates in a night exercise during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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A trainee checks a set of gauges while underwater during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

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Trainees parachute from a CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter during Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) training. Photographer's Name: EN1 Nick North. Date Shot: 7/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jul 2013, 22:30

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An instructor, left, looks on as US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members assist a simulated casualty during casualty extraction training. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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A US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member applies camouflage paint to is face during tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members participate in a tactical warfare training. The SEAL in the foreground is carrying a field radio and is armed with a Colt Commando assault rifle equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members rappel from a UH-1 Iroquois helicopter during tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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A Beretta 9 mm pistol, M60 machine gun rounds and a knife are worn by a US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member during a training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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A US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member participates in tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 8/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members march down a dirt road during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members fire their weapons in a meadow on a wooded hillside during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Members of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team take cover behind a tree during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Armed with an M14 rifle, a US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member hides in the foiliage at the edge of a river while providing cover for fellow team members during a tactical warfare training. He is using a flotation device to minimize his swimming movements. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member fires an M60 lightweight machine gun from the shoulder during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members cross a wooded hillside during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: ewood223 17. Jul 2013, 05:05

ZITAT(Dave76 @ 16. Jul 2013, 21:55)

8oer:

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Der Magazinschacht sagt mir, da� das eine MP5 ist.

Coole Photos!

Geschrieben von: Dave76 17. Jul 2013, 12:51

Immer noch 80er:

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member fires an M60 lightweight machine gun at a group of targets from a hilltop vantage point during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members charge across an open field during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A member of US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team takes cover after detonating an M-18 Claymore anti-personnel mine during tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Location: CORONADO. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member fires his M60 lightweight machine gun from a prone position during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members use the fast rope method to lower themselves from a UH-1 Iroquois helicopter during a tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members gather in a meadow to discuss tactics during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Three member armed with an M16A1 rifle emerges from a river during tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: JO1 Jenkins. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two pull a wounded comrade from the line of fire during a live fire drill and a simulated casualty extraction. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member crosses a stream during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member takes his M16A1 rifle equipped with a M-203 grenade laucher into the tall grass during a training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members charge across a wooded area during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Der Weisse Hai 17. Jul 2013, 14:35

Danke Dave76 f�r diese Bildersammlung! Sehr genial! Da werden echt Erinnerungen an die Zeiten wach, in der man noch auf die �u�erst unregelm��ig erscheinende "Barett" und s�ndhaft teure US-Bildb�nde angewiesen war, um seinem Militarismus zu fr�nen. Und wie man es kaum erwarten konnte, da� das n�chste "Nam"-Sammelheft erschien. Und wie einen das auf dem Frankfurter Flohmarkt aufgetriebene US-ALICE-Koppelzeug als h�chstmoderner Ausr�stungsgegenstand erfreut hat. Irgendwie mag ich auch woodland noch nach wie vor.

DWH

Geschrieben von: Fighting Eagel 17. Jul 2013, 14:59

kann meinem Vorredner nur recht geben, super Sammlung

@DWH: richtig, Woodland hat immer noch seinen Charme =)

Geschrieben von: Dave76 17. Jul 2013, 16:18

^ Bittesch�n! Haben noch einige hundert Aufnahmen vor uns, Vietnam bis 2000/2001 habe ich mir als Zeitfenster hier gesetzt...

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80er:

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member checks the balance of his knife by tossing it in the air during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member carries his Colt Commando assault rifle through the woods during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Three emerges from the water after crossing a river during a field training exercise. The end of his M16A1 rifle is taped over to prevent mud from entering the barrel. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member is steadied by another SEAL as he enters a stream during a field training exercise. The ends of his M16A1 rifle and M-203 grenade launcher are taped over to prevent mud from entering the barrel.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A pair of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members take cover behind a tree during a field training exercise. The SEAL in the foreground is armed with an M16A1 rifle equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher. Photographer's Name: J01 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members gather in a wooded area to discuss tactics during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members capture a demolished armored personnel carrier in a meadow during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members rappel from a UH-1 Iroquois helicopter during tactical warfare training. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members march down a road during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members take cover behind a tree during a field training exercise. One SEAL is armed with an M-16A1 rifle equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher. Photographer's Name: JO1 Jenkins. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Nite 17. Jul 2013, 16:22

ZITAT(Der Weisse Hai @ 17. Jul 2013, 15:35)

Und wie einen das auf dem Frankfurter Flohmarkt aufgetriebene US-ALICE-Koppelzeug als h�chstmoderner Ausr�stungsgegenstand erfreut hat.

Das tollste an den Bildern ist eigentlich zu sehen wie wenig sich die Ausr�stung der SEALs damals von der Standard-Ausr�stung beliebiger GIs unterschieden hat. Wenn man das mit heute vergleicht...

Geschrieben von: ramke 17. Jul 2013, 17:50

Bemerkenswert ist auch der Schnauzbart, den man auf nahezu jedem Bild finden kann.

Geschrieben von: Heckensch�tze 17. Jul 2013, 18:17

Aber der Pornobalken war doch in den 80igern obligatorisch, der hat es doch sogar noch in Top Gun geschafft.

Selbst normale Infantristen sehen heute hochger�steter aus als die. Aber den Unterschied macht hoffentlich nicht die Ausr�stung, sondern der Mann.

�brigens, sieht der Herr auf diesem Bild nicht wie Topper Harley aus? SCNR

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Geschrieben von: KSK Sniper 18. Jul 2013, 08:24

Was mich sehr erstant ist die im grossen und ganzen eher schmale und in machen Faellen fast schmaechtige Statur im Gegensatz zu BIldern aus Afghanistan oder dem Irak.
Ist das dem deutlichen hoeheren Gewicht der Ausruestung geschuldet oder ein Irrweg des heutigen Koerperkultes? Vorallem wenn man zB in Restrepo liest, dass die Soldaten nach kurzer Zeit alle nach Aceton stinken und anscheinend in eine katable Stoffwechsellage geraten wo sie Ketonkoerper produzieren koennte man fast meinen das dieses Plus an Muskulatur eher Nachteile als Vorteile hat!
Gibt es da irgendwelche Erfahrungswerte hier im Forum oder vll auch Studien zu?

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 18. Jul 2013, 10:46

ZITAT(Nite @ 17. Jul 2013, 17:22)

ZITAT(Der Weisse Hai @ 17. Jul 2013, 15:35)

Und wie einen das auf dem Frankfurter Flohmarkt aufgetriebene US-ALICE-Koppelzeug als h�chstmoderner Ausr�stungsgegenstand erfreut hat.

Ja, das f�llt mir immer wieder auf Bildern aus der Zeit auf: Soldaten haben ein Gewehr in der Hand und tragen eine UNIform. Ich will hier keinem "fr�her war alles besser" das Wort reden, aber die Sehgewohnheit ist ganz anders heute.

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 18. Jul 2013, 10:51

ZITAT(KSK Sniper @ 18. Jul 2013, 09:24)

Gibt es da irgendwelche Erfahrungswerte hier im Forum oder vll auch Studien zu?

Studien kenne ich keine, aber Bodybuilding als Teil eines als professionell angesehenen K�rperkultes ist verst�rkt erst in den 90ern aufgekommen. Ich muss mal meine alten K�rperpsychologie-Unterlagen durchgehen, ob Gisela Stein da zu geforscht hat.

Was nat�rlich in den 80ern auch fehlt sind K�rperpanzer. Und die �bergro�en Uniformen betonen die d�nneren K�rper.

Geschrieben von: Heckensch�tze 18. Jul 2013, 12:52

Ich w�rde mal darauf tippen, dass es stark am K�rperkult liegt. Nat�rlich muss man mit der schwereren Ausr�stung kr�ftiger sein, aber ob man so stark sein muss bezweifle ich. Das kann nat�rlich auch eine Henne-und-Ei-Geschichte sein. Mehr Ausr�stung heisst mehr Kraft, mehr Kraft erlaubt wiederaum mehr Ausr�stung. Aber eigentlich sollte Ausdauer vor Kraft kommen. Allerdings k�nnen da nat�rlich auch gewisse Einsatzumst�nde eine Rolle spielen. Wer motorisiert in Afghanistan unterwegs ist und gelegentlich mal T�ren eintritt, f�r den mag kr�ftiger durchaus vorteilhaft sein. Muss man tagelang durch den Dschungel kriechen, d�rfte leicht-ist-Trumpf gelten. Ein 90+ kg Mann mit 50+kg Gep�ck schleicht nicht mehr durch den Dschungel, der stapft wohl eher. Bei 35� und 80% Luftfeuchtigkeit d�rfte auch jedes Kilo weniger helfen. (Weniger Arbeitsleistung und mehr K�rperoberfl�che pro Kilogramm d�rfte auf Dauer der Leistungsf�higkeit zutr�glich sein.)
Das erinnert mich auch an einen Artikel, der ungef�hr hie� "10 Dinge, die ich von den Afghanen �ber das K�mpfen gelernt habe", der unter anderem meinte, dass m�glichst wenig zus�tzliches Gewicht, im infanteristischen Kampf sehr von Vorteil sein kann. Die gewonnene Geschwindigkeit erlaubt schnelle Taktiken, die mit viel Ger�del nicht drin sind. (Also quasi Beweguns- vs. Stellungskrieg )
Es f�llt mir immer auf, dass auch auf aktuellen Bildern Fremdenlegion�re zwar durchtrainiert, aber eben nicht �berm��ig muskul�s ausehen, und meistens mit Gewehr und Uniform und wenig sonst auskommen.

P.S. An dieser Stelle ein herzliches Dankesch�n an Dave, ohne den die Bilderforen nicht das w�ren was sie sind.

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 18. Jul 2013, 14:29

ZITAT(Heckensch�tze @ 18. Jul 2013, 13:52)

P.S. An dieser Stelle ein herzliches Dankesch�n an Dave, ohne den die Bilderforen nicht das w�ren was sie sind.

Geschrieben von: ElDuderino 18. Jul 2013, 15:55

Man sollte auch bedenken, dass professionelles bodybuilding schlicht und ergreifend sehr zeitaufw�ndig ist. Nicht jeder hat die Zeit daf�r �brig, besonders nicht, wenn man Mitglied einer Spezialeinheit ist, die haben anderes und besseres zu tun.

Desweiteren ist es nicht immer so, dass Masse auch gleich Kraft bedeutet. Im Bodybuilding wird halt auch viel "k�nstlich aufgeschwemmt", damit es massiger aussieht, aber das bedeutet nicht immer, dass die Kraft so extrem viel gr��er als bei einem etwas hagereren Gesellen ist, der auch gut trainiert ist. Von der Geschwindigkeit ganz zu schweigen, solche Massen m�ssen auch erst mal in Bewegung gesetzt werden, was bei einem Feuergefecht nicht unbedingt ne tolle Sache sein muss. Im Nahkampf ist es allerdings sicherlich ziemlich "erdr�ckend" ^^

Geschrieben von: Nite 18. Jul 2013, 15:58

Und die Ern�hrung nicht vergessen.

Geschrieben von: Malefiz 18. Jul 2013, 18:22

Ich gehe nicht davon aus, dass Angeh�rige von Spezialeinheiten tats�chliches Bodybuilding betreiben. Solche Leute brauchen Kraftausdauer, und wie lange jemand durchh�lt sieht man nicht ihren Oberarmen an. Deswegen k�nnen sie trotzdem ziemliche Kanten sein, siehe zum Beispiel Schwimmer. Die werden schon viel Zeit in Kraftr�umen verbringen, aber ich denke nicht, dass bei denen die Optik was z�hlt. Kann mich zB an eine Doku �ber die Kampfschwimmer der BW erinnern, die waren alle gut gebaut und sehr sportlich (logisch), aber da sah keiner aus wie Hulk Hogan.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jul 2013, 19:04

^ Stichwort CrossFit.

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Zur�ck zu den Bildern:

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members check their shooting scores on targets posted in a meadow during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members work their way down a hillside and through heavy vegetation behind a plume of smoke during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member, carrying a field radio and an M16A1 rifle equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher, proceeds across an open area during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two carries a wounded comrade from the line of fire during a live fire drill and a simulated casalty extraction. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI, USN. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members pause along a wooded hillside before continuing their mission during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member proceeds across an open field with his Colt Commando assault rifle during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member takes up a defensive position on a hilllside behind a plume of colored smoke during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member takes up a defensive position on a hillside behind a plume of colored smoke during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member assembles an explosive device in a wooded area during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member assembles an explosive device in a wooded area during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members use compasses and a chart to check their position during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member hides in the foliage during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: J01 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: schie�muskel 18. Jul 2013, 20:19

Was neben den charakteristischen Pornobalken den der Heckensch�tze schon erw�hnt hat auch typisch ist, ist das obligatorische Rambo Stirnband; auch auf jedem Bild zu finden.

Was den K�rperkult angeht denke ich das der schon in den 80er eingesetzt hat mit Stallone und vor allem Arnie.

Warum haben die keine K�rperpanzerung? Die wurde doch schon im Vietnamkrieg an einfache Infanterie Einheiten ausgegeben?

Geschrieben von: Nite 18. Jul 2013, 20:34

Gewicht, vor allem hat es sich bei den damaligen Schutzwesten mit Masse um Splitterschutzwesten gehandelt, welche bei Kommando-Eins�tzen nicht unbedingt Sinn machen.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 19. Jul 2013, 09:53

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member waits in a wooded area with his weapon during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members fire at targets during a field training exercise in the desert. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members watch for enemy movement while moving through a field of high grass during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members listen to an instructor in an open-field classroom during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members watch for enemy movement while moving through a field of high grass during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team instructor makes a point during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A close-up view of an M60 7.62 mm ammunition belt on the back of a Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Dave76 19. Jul 2013, 10:03

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members patrol a desert area a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: J01 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member loads bullets into his rifle clip during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members fire their weapons in a meadow on a wooded hillside during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members take a break during a field training exercise in the desert. One of the SEALs is holding an M14. Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two carry a wounded comrade from the line of fire during a live fire drill and a simulated casualty extraction. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI, USN. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member fires an AK-47 assault rifle at a target during a field training exercise. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI, USN. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members dismantle and clean their weapons inside a special cleaning building. Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI. Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: K�pnBlaub�r 19. Jul 2013, 18:36

Das letzte Bild finde ich interessant.
Wann fing man eigentlich an alle m�glichen und unm�glichen Sachen an den Waffen zu befestigen? Bis auf M203 sind die ja alle v�llig nackt.

BTW zu den Bildern:

Geschrieben von: goschi 19. Jul 2013, 18:45

Ganz grob und allgemein und nicht spezifisch auf die SEALs bezogen?
Anfang/Mitte der 90er kamen Aimpoints und ACOGs, etwas sp�ter in den 90ern IR-Laser und Lampen, dann Foregrip und so ab ~2000 mit dem Durchbruch der Rails-overall kam die Flut und es wurde alles ausser der Sp�lmaschine an die Waffe gepappt

Geschrieben von: Dave76 24. Jul 2013, 10:38

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member carries an outboard motor across the beach.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A member of US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Five carries an outboard boat motor during tactical warfare training.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members parachute into the sea during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSILocation: UNKNOWN
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member parachutes into the sea during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members pilot an inflatable boat through the waves to aid SEALS who have just parachuted into the sea during a trianing exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members in an inflatable boat rush to pick up another team member who has just parachuted into the sea during training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Mussi
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members pilot an inflatable boat through the waves to aid SEALs who have just parachuted into the sea during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members try to separate themselves from their parachutes as they float on the top of the water during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members in an inflatable boat rush to pick up another team member who has just parachuted into the sea during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 CHUCK MUSSI
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member works to separate himself from his parachute as he floats on the top of the water after a jump.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Chuck Mussi
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

Geschrieben von: Dave76 24. Jul 2013, 10:50

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A US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member helps another with his diving suit during an underwater training exercise.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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A member of US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team dressed in diving gear waits for the start of a four-hour combat swim exercise.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members, in scuba gear, talk over underwater tactics during a field training exercise on a small boat.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members, in scuba gear, talk over underwater tactics during a training mission on a small boat.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members practice floating techniques during a diving exercise.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Jenkins
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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Members of U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Five carry a raft into the water before a night combat swimming exercise.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Jenkins
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members load equipment into an inflatable boat while preparing for a stringline recovery operation.
Photographer's Name: PH1 PATRICK C. WILKERSON
Location: ST THOMAS
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

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A US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member enters the water from an inflatable boat while preparing for a stringline recovery operation. The raft is being towed by another boat.
Photographer's Name: PH1 PATRICK C. WILKERSON
Location: ST THOMAS
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

Geschrieben von: Dave76 24. Jul 2013, 11:17

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A civilian congratulates a sailor at ceremonies honoring graduates of the Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Basic Underwater Demolition Courses.
Photographer's Name: JO1 LYNN JENKINS
Date Shot: 9/1/1987

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U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members wearing chemical-biological masks train in the Southern California desert.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Pappas
Date Shot: 11/1/1987

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A U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team member drops into the water from a hovering Helicopter Combat Support Squadron 3 (HC-3) CCH-46 Sea Knight helicopter during tactical warfare training. The insertion technique is known as a "helo-swimmer cast."
Photographer's Name: PH3 Wallace
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members rappel from a CH-46 Sea Knight helicopter during an amphibious demonstration for the 14th Annual Inter-American Naval Conference.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Loshaw
Location: NAB LITTLE CREEK
5/18/1988

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members, one equipped with an AN/PAQ-1 laser target designator, right, the other armed with an M14 rifle, assume a defensive position after assaulting the beach during an amphibious demonstration for the 14th Annual Inter-American Naval Conference.
Photographer's Name: PH2 JEFFREY LOSHAW, USN
Location: NAB, LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 5/17/1988

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members assault the beach by special patrol insertion/extraction (SPIE) method during an amphibious demonstration for the 14th Annual Inter-American Naval Conference.
Photographer's Name: PH2 JEFFREY LOSHAW, USN
Location: NAB, LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 5/17/1988

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members unhook after using the special patrol insertion/extraction (SPIE) method to assault the beach during an amphibious demonstration for the 14th Annual Inter-American Naval Conference.
Photographer's Name: PH2 JEFFREY LOSHAW, USN
Location: NAB, LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 5/17/1988

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U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members rappel from a UH-1 Iroquois helicopter during tactical warfare training.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Kowalski
Location: UNKNOWN
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

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A US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team member rappels from a UH-1 Iroquois helicopter during a night training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PH1 PAUL KOWALSKI
Location: FORT A.P. HILL
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

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US Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members perform reconnaissance during cold weather training.
Date Shot: 1/6/1988

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 24. Jul 2013, 21:56

Bin endlich wieder im Land des WLAN

Danke Dave !
Geile Bilder, macht richtig Spa� sie anzuschauen

ZITAT(Nite @ 17. Jul 2013, 17:22)

ZITAT(Der Weisse Hai @ 17. Jul 2013, 15:35)

Und wie einen das auf dem Frankfurter Flohmarkt aufgetriebene US-ALICE-Koppelzeug als h�chstmoderner Ausr�stungsgegenstand erfreut hat.

Man muss auch in Betracht ziehen, dass der Markt seinerzeit nicht allzuviel hergegeben hat. Gemessen an den Umst�nden ist deren Ausr�stung schon sehr individuell

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 24. Jul 2013, 22:00

Ich w�rde sagen, sie ist spezialisiert, aber wo siehst Du individualisierte Ausr�stung?

Geschrieben von: Liqmaster 24. Jul 2013, 22:16

Was mir besonders stark auff�llt ist der Unterschied im k�rperlichen Erscheinungsbild der abgebildeten Kameraden im Vergleich zu Bildern von heutigen Seals, genauer die eher weniger ausgepr�gte Oberk�rpermuskulatur.

Dies soll in keinster Weise eine Debatte �ber mehr oder weniger Leistungsf�higkeit ansto�en! ;-)

Der Grund ist meiner Ansicht nach der oben schon angesprochene Unterschied in der Ausr�stung der auch hier erkennbar ist.

Damals: keine K�rperpanzerung, Koppel und ansonsten halt gro�er Rucksack wo der Rest drin ist (wenn denn gebraucht)

Heute: Chest-Rig, Plate-Carrier (oder was denn dann gerade getragen wird), mit den entsprechenden Schutzplatten, sprich K�rperpanzerung.

Bin mal gespannt wo sich das noch hin entwickelt, auch im Hinblick auf die BW.

Meiner subjektiven Meinung nach sind schon jetzt Unterschiede im k�rperlichen Erscheinungsbild innerhalb der Infanterie (GebJg Fallis Jg) und Grenis zu erkennen.

Horrido

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 24. Jul 2013, 22:38

ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 24. Jul 2013, 23:00)

Ich w�rde sagen, sie ist spezialisiert, aber wo siehst Du individualisierte Ausr�stung?

Umgen�hte Klamotten, gemischte Bekleidung, modifizierte Tragesysteme (Westen, gepolsterte Trageausstattung, Kombination versch. Tle unterschiedlicher Tragesystem Generationen [M1956 H-Koppeltragehilfe + LC-2 G�rtel, Taschen, etc.], dezentral beschafftes Materiall)...

Auf die schnelle bspw.
http://abload.de/img/fac1849uu8t.jpg
http://abload.de/img/debrief87fbubl.jpg
http://abload.de/img/tac14g3s8o.jpg
http://abload.de/img/tac20ids3e.jpg
http://abload.de/img/buds87bpu9h.jpg

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 25. Jul 2013, 07:59

Geschrieben von: Dave76 25. Jul 2013, 10:50

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members in a rubber assault craft follow an AAVP7A1 assault amphibian vehicle heading out from the beach to return to the ships during the amphibious assault phase of Exercise RIMPAC 88.
Photographer's Name: MSGT STEPHEN B. JONES
Location: BELLOWS AIR STATION, OAHU
Date Shot: 7/17/1988

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Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members in a rubber assault craft return to ship during the amphibious assault phase of Exercise RIMPAC 88.
Photographer's Name: MSGT STEPHEN B. JONES
Location: BELLOWS AIR STATION, OAHU
Date Shot: 7/17/1988

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Members of a Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team stand by on a beach during an amphibious assault exercise. A utility landing craft is just offshore, background.
Photographer's Name: PHCS RON BAYLES, USN
Location: SUBIC BAY
Date Shot: 12/28/1988

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A Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team watches as an air cushion landing craft (LCAC) nears the shore in a cloud of spray during the joint U.S./South Korean exercise Team Spirit '89. Exact Date Shot Unknown.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Ted Salois

Hier noch Fotos aus den 80ern (einige auch fr�he 90er), zu denen ich leider keine offizielle Bildbeschreibung und/oder Aufnahmedatum habe:

Geschrieben von: Dave76 25. Jul 2013, 11:05

Fotos aus den 80ern (einige auch fr�he 90er), zu denen ich leider keine offizielle Bildbeschreibung und/oder Aufnahmedatum habe:

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ST-4 hitches a ride

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Dave Rogers (bottom right corner) and members of U.S. Navy SEAL Team 2 - Alpha Platoon - shortly after securing General Manuel Noriega's compound during Operation Just Cause in Panama. (December 1989)

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In the late 1980s, Navy SEAL Master Chief Jim Kauber, flew over the Persian Gulf at night strapped to the outside of an Army OH-58 helicopter, to interdict Iranian gunboats and mine layers. Outfitted with a Litton M-845 night vision device on his M-16, Jim was part of a then-unacknowledged project, �Earnest Will.� Kauber and his cohorts hunted in the darkness using the 58�s mast-mounted FLIR system, struck with no warning then disappeared before daylight. U.S. Special Operations Command credits these Gulf missions as, �the first successful night combat engagement that neutralized an enemy threat while using aviator night vision goggles and forward looking infrared devices."

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SEALs, Glorietta Bay, July 1983

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SEAL Team FIVE, Echo platoon, Subic Bay, 1989

Geschrieben von: Dave76 26. Jul 2013, 09:45

90er:

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A CH-3E Sea King helicopter from the 1550th Combat Crew Training WIng floats on the surface of Elephant Butte Lake as members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team approach in an inflatable boat during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: Staff Sgt. Mark Johnson
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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An MH-53J Pave Low III helicopter from the 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing hovers over Elephant Butte Lake as a member of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team climbs aboard during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations Exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: Staff Sgt. Mark E. Johnson
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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Members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team prepare to push their inflatable boat out of a 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing CH-3E Sea King helicopter as it hovers over Elephant Butte Lake during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: Master Sgt. David N. Craft
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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Members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team move out after disembarking from an MH-53J Pave Low III helicopter from the 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: MSGT David N. Craft
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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Members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team climb onto a TH-53A helicopter from the 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: MSGT David N. Craft
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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Members of Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team climb into the rear of a TH-53A helicopter from the 1550th Combat Crew Training Wing during the joint Air Force/Navy special operations exercise Chili Flag '90.
Photographer's Name: MSGT David N. Craft
Date Shot: 3/1/1990

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Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepare to move from the flight deck to the bridge of the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training exercise. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

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A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 adjusts his headset during a training mission aboard the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepare to move from the flight deck of the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training exercise. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 checks his optical sight-equipped 7.62mm M-14 rifle aboard the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

Geschrieben von: Dave76 26. Jul 2013, 10:13

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 and French commandoes attach their harnesses to a special patrol insertion/extraction (SPIE) rope hanging from a Helicopter Combat Support Squadron 6 (HC-6) CH-46D Sea Knight helicopter hovering over the deck of the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPRHEYS (T-AO-188) during a training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 and French commandoes hang from a special patrol insertion/extraction (SPIE) rope suspended from a Helicopter Combat Support Squadron 6 (HC-6) CH-46D Sea Knight helicopter during a joint training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.S. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of a group of visiting French commandoes prepares to fire an optical sight-equipped 5.56mm M-16A1 rifle off the stern of the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a weapons familiarization exercise being conducted by members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 sights through the optical sight of his 5.56mm M-16A1 rifle while other team members check their equipment in preparation for a training exercise aboard the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of a group of visiting French commandoes fires a 9mm MP-5A5E sub-machine gun off the deck of the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a weapons familiarization exercise being conducted by members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 fires his optical scope-equipped 5.56mm M-16A1 rifle during a weapon familiarization class held for visiting French commandoes on the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) . SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 hold a weapons familiarization exercise for visiting French commandoes aboard the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). Members of the group are firing 9mm MP-5A5E sub-machine guns and 9mm P-226 pistols. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 checks his 7.62mm M-14 rifle aboard the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

Geschrieben von: Dave76 26. Jul 2013, 10:42

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 hold a weapons familiarization exercise for French commandoes visiting the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). The group is firing 9mm MP-5A5E sub-machine guns and 9mm P-226 pistols at targets set up on the stern of the ship. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepare for a training exercise aboard the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPRHEYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 board a Helicopter Combat Support Squadron 6 (HC-6) CH-46D Sea Knight helicopter aboard the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 R. Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 leads members of the Marine detachment from the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT (CVN-71) through an exercise during boarding team training aboard the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 provided boarding teams to assist in the enforcement of U.N. trade sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Milton Savage
Date Shot: 3/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepare to assault the bridge of the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A boarding team from Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepares to enter the bridge of the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPRHEYS (T-AO-188) during a boarding exercise. Each team member is armed with an MP-5A5E 9mm submachine gun. SEAL Team 8 provided boarding teams to assist ships of the Maritime Interdiction Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 points his 12-gauge M-870 shotgun up a ladder of the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force with their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 prepare to enter a compartment on the fleet oiler USNS JOSHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8 keeps his 9mm MP-5A5E submachine gun ready while guarding a passageway on the fleet oiler USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188) during a training mission. SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to ships of the Maritime Interception Force to assist in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 8, armed with a 9mm MP-5A5E submachine gun, gives a thumbs-up at the successful completion of a training mission aboard the USNS J0SHUA HUMPHREYS (T-AO-188). SEAL Team 8 is providing boarding teams to assist the ships of the Maritime Interception Force in their enforcement of U.N. sanctions against Iraq during Operation Desert Storm.
Photographer's Name: PH2 USNR-R Milton Savage
Date Shot: 2/1/1991

Geschrieben von: schie�muskel 31. Jul 2013, 12:47

ZITAT

Meiner subjektiven Meinung nach sind schon jetzt Unterschiede im k�rperlichen Erscheinungsbild innerhalb der Infanterie (GebJg Fallis Jg) und Grenis zu erkennen.

k�nntest du das etwas spezifizieren?

Geschrieben von: Der Weisse Hai 31. Jul 2013, 13:34

Genau! Wir machen aus diesem sch�nen Thread einen Bundik�mpfer-Swansvergleich

DWH

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jul 2013, 14:03

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver aims his video camera at a hatch in the forward hull of the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624) while waiting for a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team member to emerge. The cameraman is on hand to film the SEAL team members entering and exiting the vessel during lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

Photographer's Mate 1st Class/Diver Slater videotapes a member of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team as he emerges from a hatch in the forward hull of the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile sumbarine USS JAMES K. POLK (SSBN-645). The cameraman is videotaping the SEAL team members as they take part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise Phantom Striker.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films the maneuvers as a member of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team swims along a line rigged to the hull of the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624) during lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team swims along a line rigged to the hull of the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624) during lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

Photographer's Mate (Diver) 2nd Class Greg Slater, right, videotapes members of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team as they rig lines on the hull of a submarine during a training exercise.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team as they prepare to surface after taking part in lock-out procedures aboard the nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN-624) off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

Members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team surface after taking part in lock-out procedures aboard the nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624) off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films activities as members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team descend from the surface and enter the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624). The SEAL team is taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

Geschrieben von: Der Weisse Hai 31. Jul 2013, 14:14

ZITAT(Dave76 @ 26. Jul 2013, 09:42)

ZITAT

Ein kleines Detail am Rande: Die Franzosen sind wohl die mit den fr�hen Kampfmittelwesten. Man beachte die Oberschenkeltaschen. Der kniende nachladende Pistolensch�tze hat offenbar ein gr�nes Barett in der Oberschenkeltasche stecken.

DWH

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jul 2013, 14:27

ZITAT(Der Weisse Hai @ 31. Jul 2013, 15:14)

Jupp, g�nes Barett = Commandos Marine, der hintere mit der MP5 hat ebenfalls ein gr�nes Barett in der Tasche stecken.

Geschrieben von: Liqmaster 31. Jul 2013, 14:29

Ich habe mich mit einigen Chefs und Feldwebeln (von FschJg, PzGren und GebJg) unterhalten, die in den letzten drei Jahren (also seit 2010), in Afghanistan waren. Deren (zugegeben subjektive) Beobachtung war, dass bei Grenis und Fallis vermehrt Wert auf gut ausdefinierte muskul�se Oberk�rper gelegt wird. Umgangssprachlich ausgedr�ckt, der Anteil der "Pumper" ist in den oben aufgef�hrten Einheiten h�her, als z.B. bei den Gebirgsj�gern.

Hinzu kommt, dass diese Anteile hier in Deutschland im "Friedensdienst" (in der Einsatzvorausbildung sowieso, da l�uft ja jeder mit der Ausr�stung rum, auch ein GebJg) mit mehr und schwererem Ger�del am Man rumlaufen, insbesondere mit Plattentr�ger/komplettem Chest Rig usw.

Im Gegensatz dazu ist nach den subjektiven Beobachtungen die Lage bei den Gebirgsj�gern etwas anders. Hier gilt immer noch der Leitspruch: " Was du am Man hast musst du auch auf den Berg raufschaffen".
Daher wird massiv auf Ausdauer trainiert, mehr und gr��ere Muskeln am Oberk�rper bringen wenig wenn man die den Berg nicht rauf kriegt.

Hinzu kommt, dass im Gebirgskampf aber ein Plattentr�ger mit Platten (als Beispiel) eher massiv hinderlich ist (einfach wegen des Gewichtes), daher wird dieser im Friedensdienst meistens weg gelassen. Wie gesagt, subjektive Beobachtungen. Kann auch an der Ausstattungslage liegen, da habe ich keinen Einblick rein.
Dennoch schliesse ich mich der Meinung meiner Kameraden an, dass sich der Falli und Greni eine andere Muskulatur als z.B. ein Gebirsj�ger leisten kann.

Nat�rlich lasse ich mich immer eines besseren belehren, da das Thema sehr subjektiv ist.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jul 2013, 15:23

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films activities as members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team descend from the surface and prepare to enter the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN-624). The SEAL team is taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films activities as members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team descend toward the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624). The SEAL team is taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A member of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team descends along a line as another SEAL enters the hull of the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624) during lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico. The maneuvers are being videotaped by a photographer's mate/diver.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

A photographer's mate/diver films activities as members of a Navy sea-air-land (SEAL) team enters the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS WOODROW WILSON (SSBN 624). SEAL team members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Puerto Rico.
Photographer's Name: PHC Mark Reinhard
Date Shot: 9/1/1991

ZITAT

PH2(DV) David Tilton videotapes procedures as Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members of Swimmer Delivery Team 2 prepare a DM-8 minisub for launch from the deck of the submerged nuclear-powered attack submarine USS SILVERSIDES (SSN-679). Members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise Phantom Striker.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

Members of the Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team emerge from a dry deck shelter aboard the submerged nuclear-powered attack submarine USS SILVERSIDES (SSN-679). Members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise Phantom Striker.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

A member of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team removes equipment from external storage spaces aboard the submerged nuclear-powered strategic missile submarine USS JAMES K. POLK (SSBN-645). He and other SEAL team members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise PHANTOM STRIKER.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members of Swimmer Delivery Team 2 prepare to launch a swimmer delivery vehicle from a dry deck shelter aboard the submerged nuclear-powered attack submarine USS SILVERSIDES (SSN -679). Members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West,
Fla., during Exercise Phantom Striker.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members of Swimmer Delivery Team 2 prepare a DM-8 minisub for launch from the deck of the submerged nuclear-powered attack submarine USS SILVERSIDES (SSN-679). Members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise Phantom Striker.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team members of Swimmer Delivery Team 2 prepare to launch a swimmer delivery vehicle from the submerged nuclear-powered attack submarine USS SILVERSIDES (SSN-679). Members are taking part in lock-out procedures off the coast of Key West, Fla., during exercise PHANTOM STRIKER.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Dolan
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

Geschrieben von: Dave76 10. Aug 2013, 16:47

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team prepare to dive from the deck of the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS BILLFISH (SSN-676) during combat rescue training, part of the joint U.S./French naval exercise Dasix Lafayette.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Howard M. Arnold
Location: USS BILLFISH
Date Shot: 6/10/1992

ZITAT

Members of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team fast-rope from a 20th Special Operations Squadron MH-53J Pave Low III helicopter to the bridge of the vehicle cargo ship CAPE MOHICAN (T-AKR-5065) during the joint service Exercise Ocean Venture '92. The SEALs are practicing shipboard insertion and exfiltration techniques.
Photographer's Name: Senior Airman Janel Schroeder
Location: CAPE MOHICAN
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

Members of a Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team fast-rope from a 20th Special Operations Squadron MH-53J Pave Low III helicopter to the bridge of the vehicle cargo ship CAPE MOHICAN (T-AKR-5065) during the joint service Exercise Ocean Venture '82. The SEALS are practicing shipboard insertion and exfiltration techniques. The high-endurance cutter USCGC DALLAS (WHEC-716) is in the background.
Photographer's Name: Senior Airman Janel Schroeder
Location: SHIP CAPE MOHICAN
Date Shot: 5/1/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team grabs onto a rope ladder to climb into a Helicopter Combat Support Squadron II (HC-11) HH-46D Sea Knight helicopter during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team climb aboard a Seafox special warfare patrol craft during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team pass other SEALs in a PB Mark III patrol boat as they head toward the beach in their inflatable assault boat during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Wearing diving gear and armed with M-4 carbines, members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team emerge from the water during a press demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: NAS, CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team act as the opposing force personnel while other SEALs patrol the waterway during a press demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team jumps from a utility boat as the vessel comes ashore during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team maintains his position atop a float during a parade, part of a public demonstration. The SEAL is armed with a 7.62mm M-60E3 lightweight machine gun.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

Geschrieben von: Dave76 10. Aug 2013, 17:00

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team patrol the beach during a public demonstration. The SEALs are armed with 9mm MP5 sub-machine guns.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team patrols the beach during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team dives from the back of a Seafox special warfare patrol craft during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team take to the water in a Seafox special warfare patrol craft during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Wearing diving gear and armed with M-4 carbines, members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team advance through the surf during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: NAVAL AIR BASE, CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team secure a prisoner during a public demonstration. The SEALs are armed with 9mm MP5 sub-machine guns.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team speed past a PB Mark III patrol boat in an inflatable assault boat as they head toward the beach during a public demonstration. Personnel on the patrol boat are manning an M-2 .50-caliber machine gun.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Smoke surrounds members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team as they participate in a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

Smoke closes in on members of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team as they capture a prisoner during a public demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

ZITAT

A member of a U.S. Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) team aims his 7.62mm M-60 machine gun while acting as a member of the opposing force during a press demonstration.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 7/4/1992

Geschrieben von: Dave76 28. Sep 2013, 17:39

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two move ashore from an inflatable assault boat during CAPEX '92.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Arthur J. McLaughlin
Location: NAVAL STATION, ROTA
Date Shot: 11/1/1992

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two move ashore from small assault craft during CAPEX '92. The SEAL in the foreground is armed with a modified MP-5A3 9mm sub-machine gun.
Photographer's Name: PH3 J. Arthur McLaughlin
Location: NAVAL STATION/ROTA
Date Shot: 11/1/1992

ZITAT

Members of Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team Two move ashore during CAPEX '92. The kneeling SEAL is armed with a modified 9mm MP-5A3 sub-machine gun, the next three with 5.56mm M-4 carbines and the last with a 7.62mm M-60E3 lightweight machine gun.
Photographer's Name: PH3 J. Arthur McLaughlin
Location: NAVAL STATION/ROTA
Date Shot: 11/1/1992

ZITAT

A member of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5, holds his M-4 carbine in a ready position during a press demonstration. The SEAL is wearing scuba gear.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: NAVAL AMPHIBIOUS BASE, CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

ZITAT

Members of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5 take up defensive positions on the beach after coming shore in an inflatable boat during a press demonstration. The SEALSs are armed with M-4 carbines and a 7.62mm M-60 machine gun, background.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Charles Stover
Location: NAB, CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

ZITAT

Smoke rises in the background as a member of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5, armed with M-4 carbines during a press demonstration. The rifles are equipped with M-203 grenade launchers.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Mike Poche
Location: NAVAL AMPHIBIOUS BASE, CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

ZITAT

Members of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5 take a break .during a demonstration. The SEALSs are armed with M-4 carbines and the rifle in the foreground is equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Mike Poche
Location: NAB, CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

ZITAT

Members of SEAL Team, one climb up a jacobs ladder onto the deck of the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS LOUISVILLE (SSN-724) as part of Operation Varsity Swimmer '93 off the coast of southern California. A second zodiac boat loaded with SEAL team members can be seen approaching the Louisville from out of the fog.
Photographer's Name: PH1 CHARLES W. ALLEY, USN
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

ZITAT

Navy divers from SEAL Team One, based at Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, are shown preparing for "dry deck" launches and recoveries from the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS LOUISVILLE (SSN-724) off the coast of southern California during Operation Varsity Swimmer '93.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Charles W. Alley
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

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Five Zodiac boats, with members of SEAL Team One embarked stand by off the port side of the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS LOUISVILLE (SSN-724) off the coast of southern California during Operation Varsity Swimmer '93 .
Photographer's Name: PH1 CHARLES W. ALLEY, USN
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

Geschrieben von: ramke 29. Sep 2013, 11:30

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kam mir doch gleich bekannt vor:
http://abload.de/image.php?img=remington870-03buu1n.jpg

von der Hauptseite, Remington 870

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jan 2014, 18:16

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Members of the Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5 travel across the desert in a SEA Team 3 Scorpion fast attack vehicle (FAV) during a press demonstration. An M-2 .50-caliber machine gun is mounted on top of the vehicle.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Mike Poche
Location: NAB CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

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Members of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5 prepare to go over a ridge in a SEAL Team 3 Scorpion fast attack vehicle (FAV) as they travel across the desert during a press demonstration. An M-2 .50-caliber machine gun is mounted atop the vehicle.
Photographer's Name: PH2 Mike Poche
Location: NAB, CORONADO
Date Shot: 1/1/1993

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A view from inside a desert patrol vehicle (DPV) of SEAL Team 3 during a training exercise at the Naval Amphibious Base. Lt. J.G. Thomas Chaby (right) and Hospital Corpsman First Class Joe Pappamihiel have access to an arsenal of weapons including the Browning 50 caliber heavy machine gun and the Mark 19 grenade launcher.
Photographer's Name: JO2 Ray Mooney
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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A right front view of a desert patrol vehicle (DPV) during training exercise on the silver strand at Coronado. The DPV is a three man vehicle used for many long range desert operations including close air support or combat search and rescue missions. The vehicle is armed with a variety of weapons including the Browning 50 caliber heavy machine gun, the Mark 19 40mm grenade launcher, and the M60 30 caliber machine gun. Lt. J.G. Thomas Chaby of SEAL team 3 is in the passenger seat.
Photographer's Name: JO2 Ray Mooney
Location: CORONADO
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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A Navy SEAL of SEAL Team 2's Platoon Alpha sets up in an ambush position during a training scenario to maintain his qualification of one highly skilled in guerilla warfare tactics. He is armed with an J-16A2 assault rifle.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Steve Orr
Location: NAB LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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A Navy SEAL of SEAL Team 2's Platoon Alpha takes aim with his M-16A2 assault rifle at a possible "enemy" dugout during a training scenario. His partner in the background is armed with an M-60A1 30 caliber light machine gun. SEAL team members are required to remain airborne qualified and are highly skilled in guerilla warfare tactics.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Steve Orr
Location: NAB LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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Members of SEAL Team 2. Platoon Alpha, are shown in a training scenario required to maintain their highly skilled proficiency in guerilla warfare. The SEAL on the left is armed with an M16A2 assault rifle.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Steve Orr
Location: NAB LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jan 2014, 18:31

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A Mark 8 SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV) is piloted by two Navy SEALs of Naval Special Warfare Command's SEAL Team 2. The SDV is a 22-foot long jet black submersible all-electric vehicle powered by rechargeable siver-zinc batteries. The torpedo shaped underwater SCV has a computerized navigation system and is equipped with an intercom system allowing the crew and passengers to talk underwater. The pilot controls its direction with a ballast and trim system, along with a manual control stick to move rudders, elevators and bow planes much.
Photographer's Name: CDR Glen King
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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A Navy SEAL Team 2 checks the safety attachments on a Mark 8 SEAL Delivery Vehicle (SDV) during a training scenario off the coast of the Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek, VA.
Photographer's Name: CDR Glen King
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

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A SEAL swimmer ascends from the submerged nuclear-powered submarine USS KAMEHAMEHA (SSN-642) to the surface breathing on a "pony" SCUBA bottle. The SEAL will board the collapsible rigid rubber craft (CRRC) which is already on the surface.
Photographer's Name: LCDR Wood
Date Shot: 11/1/1993

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SEAL swimmers cast into the water from a HH-60H Seahawk helicopter during a SSN/Helo air/sea rendezvous with the nuclear-powered submarine USS KAMEHAMEHA (SSN-642) off the coast of Oahu, Hawaii. The KAMEHAMEHA is one of two former SSBN subs that have been converted to drydock shelter (DDS) capable platforms for special operations.
Photographer's Name: LCDR Michael Wood
Location: PACIFIC OCEAN
Date Shot: 11/1/1993

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An HH-60H Seahawk helicopter lifts two SEAL swimmers from the water off the coast of Oahu, Hawaii following a SSN/helo air/sea rendezvous with the nuclear-powered submarine USS KAMEHAMEHA (SSN-642) during special operations training.
Photographer's Name: LCdr. Mike Wood
Date Shot: 11/1/1993

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A SEAL Swimmer ascends from the nuclear-powered submarine USS KAMEHAMEHA (SSN-642) to the surface breathing on a "pony" SCUBA bottle. The SEAL will board the collapsible rigid rubber craft which has already been deployed.
Photographer's Name: LCdr. Mike Wood
Date Shot: 11/1/1993

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A drydock shelter (DDS) capable platform crew prepares a collapsable rigid rubber craft (CRRC) for a SSN/Helo air/sea rendezvous on the fantail of the nuclear-powered submarine USS KAMEHAMEHA (SSN-642) off the coast of Oahu, Hawaii. A CRRC crew was used to transfer the helo launched SEAL's to and from the SSN.
Photographer's Name: LCDR Wood
Location: PACIFIC OCEAN
Date Shot: 11/1/1993

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Four Zodiac boats carrying members of SEAL Team One are shown racing to catch up to the nuclear-powered attack submarine USS LOUISVILLE (SSN-724) just after the sub surfaced at the rendezvous point off the coast of southern California during Operation Varsity Swimmer '93.
Photographer's Name: PH1 Charles W. Alley

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jan 2014, 18:44

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Member of SEAL Team Six store their weapons in Zodiac boats on the fantail of the coastal patrol craft USS CYCLONE (PC-1) prior to commissioning of the vessel at the U.S. Naval Academy. The SEAL team will be doing weapons demonstrations during the open ship tours following the commissioning ceremony.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Steve Orr
Location: ANNAPOLIS
Date Shot: 8/7/1993

'Team Six'?! Sicherlich ein Fehler in der Bildbeschreibung, niemals h�tte man Bilder von Six ver�ffentlicht.

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A starboard bow view of the Mark V experimental fast patrol boat (XFPB) tied up at the pier after being placed in the water for test and evaluation. The boat is intended for SEAL team special operations.
Photographer's Name: OS2 John Bouvia
Location: MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE
Date Shot: 2/17/1995

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The Mark V experimental fast patrol boat (XFPB) for SEAL special operations is lowered into the water by crane.
Photographer's Name: OS2 John Bouvia
Location: MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE
Date Shot: 3/20/1995

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A Halter Marine Mark V combatant craft is offloaded from a USAF C-5A Galaxy of the 439th Air Wing at Naval Air Station Jacksonville. It will undergo testing and evaluation on Tampa Bay. The 57-ton water jet-powered craft has a 5 man crew and can carry 16 SEALS. It has a 50 knot speed and 500 nautical mile range.
Photographer's Name: John Bouvia
Location: Jacksonville
Date Shot: 4/15/1995

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Sniper, Boatswain Mate Third Class (BM3) Todd Hubert is assisted by his spotter, Seaman (SN) Chad Luck who calls wind direction and determines where the rounds impact through the spotting scope. Both men are members of Naval Special Warfare Unit One-SEAL Team Five. The rifle is an M-91 .308 caliber sniper rifle equipped with a 20-X power telescopic sight.
Photographer's Name: PH3 Heather S. Gordon
Date Shot: 5/18/1995

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jan 2014, 19:07

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Lieutenant Junior Grade (LTJG) John Morris, US Navy SEAL, readies his gear for a search and seizure training mission with US Air Force Special Operations MH-53 Pave Low helicopters.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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US Navy SEALs load into a US Air Force MH-53 Pave Low helicopter on the flight deck of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A close up view of a US Navy SEAL as he rides in a US Air Force MH-53 Pave Low helicopter during team training.
Photographer's Name: SSGT. JOHN E. LASKY
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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US Navy SEALs fast rope from a US Air Force Special Operations MH-53 Pave Low helicopter to the deck of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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After fast roping onto the Merchant Marine Vessel PFC Obergon, US Navy SEALs provide cover for each other during a search and seizure exercise. The SEAL team is training with US Air Force Special Operations MH-53 Pave Low helicopters.
Photographer's Name: SSGT. JOHN E. LASKY
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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After fast roping onto the Merchant Marine Vessel PFC Obergon, US Navy SEALs provide cover for each other during a search and seizure exercise. The SEAL team is training with US Air Force Special Operations MH-53 Pave Low helicopters. Photographer's Name: SSGT. JOHN E. LASKY
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A U.S. Navy SEAL, in firing position armed with an MP5-N sub-machine gun, sets up a security perimeter on the upper deck of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SrA M. Bridget Wright
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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Two U.S. Navy SEALs, armed with an MP5-N sub-machine guns, set up a security perimeter on the upper deck of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A U.S. Navy SEAL, armed with an MP5-N sub-machine gun, sets up a security perimeter around the command post aboard the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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U.S. Navy SEALs search the passageways of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN for an intruder during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A U.S. Navy SEAL subdues a captured, role playing intruder in a cabin of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A US Navy SEAL sets up a security perimeter around the command post aboard the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SRA M. BRIDGET WRIGHT
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

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A U.S. Navy SEAL, armed with an MP5-N sub-machine gun, sets up a security perimeter on the upper deck of the USNS LEROY GRUMMAN during a search and seizure exercise.
Photographer's Name: SrA M. Bridget Wright
Date Shot: 7/1/1995

Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 18. Jan 2014, 19:32

ZITAT(Dave76 @ 18. Jan 2014, 18:16)

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Wei� jemand etwas �ber die Starterrohre rechts und links am Dach? Welches Waffensystem (AT-4 etc.?)? Und wie wurden die abgefeuert und gezielt? Nur Pi mal Daumen? Die Kabel verlaufen ja ins Cockpit, waren da nur Ausl�ser oder vielleicht auch Zielhilfen?

Geschrieben von: Dave76 18. Jan 2014, 19:50

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Jupp, AT4. Ich denke nicht, dass die direkt aus dieser Position vom DPV aus abgefeuert werden sollten. Wahrscheinlicher erscheint mir dieser Anbringsungsort, um im ernstfall schnell auf die AT4 zugreifen zu k�nnen und diese abseits vom Fahrzeug abzufeuern. Das, was du f�r Kabel h�lst, sind meiner Meinung nach einfach die Tragegurte.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 19. Jan 2014, 18:53

So, kommen wir nun zu den Anf�ngen der SEALs, das hei�t im Prinzip Bilder aus Vietnam. Das Problem ist, dass ich hier leider keine durchgehend hohe Bildqualit�t bieten kann, genausowenig ist eine jeweils genaue Bildbeschreibung verf�gbar. Wenn mir Informationen zu dem entsprechenden Bild vorliegen, poste ich diese nat�rlich entsprechend, wenn ich einen eigenen Kommentar poste, so wird dies durch fehlenden quote-tags ersichtlich sein. Eine chronologische Staffelung ist mir aus obigen Gr�nden leider nicht m�glich.

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Members of U.S. Navy SEAL Team One move down Bassac River (Mekong-Delta) in a SEAL Team assault boat, South Vietnam, November 19, 1967.

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A SEAL moves through waist-deep mud during an operation in May 1970. National Archives photo

Stoner Mk 23 Mod 0 (eine spezielle Version des 63A Commando)

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A camouflaged U.S. Navy SEAL armed with a Stoner automatic rifle watches for movement in a wooded area along a stream. Photo taken: October 1968

Tom Keith ST-2 mit Stoner 63A (fr�he left hand feed Version mit 150er snail drum mag)

Muss in den fr�hen 60ern aufgenommen worden sein, wegen der Duck Hunter camo.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 20. Jan 2014, 19:31

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(L to R) Kirk Scarborough, Doc Greene � SEAL Team 1 at Sea Float

Sollte sich um Echo Platoon, SEAL Team One im Zeitraum Februar - August 1970 handeln

Smith & Wesson M76

F�r die SEALs typisches, heftig modifiziertes M60 rechts, links AK-74 mit typischen AK chest rig. Handelt sich um Biet Hai (vietnamesische Sea Commandos) advisors des Naval Advisory Detachements (NAD) des OP-37 (Maritime Operations Group) der MACVSOG.

Biet Hai advisors

Geschrieben von: Dave76 21. Jan 2014, 11:50

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A tiger stripe clad SEAL team member in the Mekong Delta keeps guard with a Stoner 63A Commando during Operation Bold Dragon III.

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SEAL team members board a Light SEAL Support Craft (LSSC) for transportation to their operation site.

Foxtrott platoon, ST-1, Sea Float, 1970

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A SEAL team member confers with Lieutenant Commander Roland F. Habicht, officer in charge of Helicopter Attack Light Squadron Three, Detachment One. (HAL-3 a.k.a Seawolves)

Juliet Platoon, SEAL Team One, 1970

Geschrieben von: Dave76 21. Jan 2014, 18:52

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Members of SEAL Team ONE, X-RAY platoon pose for the camera at Ben Tre in late 1970. There are five Stoner gunners in the photo: two on the left standing and kneeling; two on the right standing and kneeling; one in the middle, back with sun glasses. Both snail drum and box magazines are shown in this photo. These guns appear to be a combination of the Stoner 63A Commando and Mk 23 Mod 0 configurations. (Photo: Gary Hunt)

Ich meine im Hintergrund sogar noch ein sechsten Stoner gunner (Mk 23) zu ersp�hen.

Foxtrot Platoon, SEAL Team One; Sea Float, 1970
Auch hier wieder 'ne Menge Stoners (63A & Mk23 Mod 0) & 'en M60 in der Mitte.

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SEAL Team ONE, X-Ray Platoon, and South Vietnamese personnel on a dock near Ben Tre in Southeast Vietnam. U.S. Navy photo

Psy Ops

Geschrieben von: Dave76 21. Jan 2014, 22:03

Die SEALs griffen in Vietnam auch teilweise auf solche Exoten wie dieses Harrington & Richardson T223 zur�ck, eine lizensierte Kopie des HK33:

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ST-2 members extracting with VC prisoner.

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SEALs ready their weapons as they prepare to conduct an op from riverine craft.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 21. Jan 2014, 22:45

Noch ein paar Waffenarsenalbilder:

Von links nach rechts: Mauser C96 oder M712 Schnellfeuer (?) mit Anschlagschaft, LAW, MP 40, Madsen M-50, Carl Gustav M/45 (Swedish K)/S&W M76, S&W Revolver(?), Colt Model 605(?)
Oben stehend auf Zweibein: Colt Model 601 mit Delft scope, M�rsergranaten (?)

Von oben nach unten: M18A1 recoilless rifle, M60 mod, Colt Model 603(?), Colt Model 601/602 (?), Colt Model 607

Geschrieben von: Dave76 22. Jan 2014, 10:43

Geschrieben von: Dave76 22. Jan 2014, 19:48

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Camouflage clad SEALs aboard a riverine craft.

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Camouflaged SEALs in the Vietnamese jungle.

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Terry 'Doc' Bryant from ST-1 Victor Plt.

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ST-2 9th Plt aboard an LCPL.

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ST-2 9th Plt B squad with LDNN.

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ST-2 9th Plt during op in the RSSZ.

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ST-2 9th plt during patrol in the RSSZ.

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ST-2 9th plt with LDNN during op.

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ST-2 Det Alfa 9th Plt.

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ST-2 member with suspected VC.

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ST-2 SEALs with a Hoi Chan guide ride to op area on PCF.

'Hoi Chanh': Siehe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chieu_Hoi

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 25. Jan 2014, 12:25

Dave,
danke f�r die Fotos !

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A Navy SEAL of SEAL Team 2's Platoon Alpha takes aim with his M-16A2 assault rifle at a possible "enemy" dugout during a training scenario. His partner in the background is armed with an M-60A1 30 caliber light machine gun. SEAL team members are required to remain airborne qualified and are highly skilled in guerilla warfare tactics.
Photographer's Name: JO1 Steve Orr
Location: NAB LITTLE CREEK
Date Shot: 8/1/1993

Die Waffengaben passen leider nicht. M�glich das es sich um ein XM4 handelt?

Hab mal den Scanner bem�ht:

http://abload.de/img/sealkrper6zeml.jpg
Richard Whiteside durchlief vom August 1975 bis zum Januar 1976 das BUD/S Training.
Das linke Bild entstand am ersten Tag des Trainings, das rechte nach der sogenannten Hell Week (f�nfte Trainingswoche).

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The physical difference wrought by BUD/S. The photo on the left was taken on the first day of BUD/S, the right-hand photo was taken post-Hell Week. (Richard Whiteside)

http://abload.de/img/sealnoriegaw0c6c.jpg
Operation Just Cause
Navy Seal Chris Dye vor dem Angriff auf die Presidente Porras, ein Schiff Manuel Noriegas, von dem man vermutete, er werde dies zur Flucht nutzen. Dye tr�gt eine von zwei zeitgez�ndeten Sprengladungen, welche zwischen den vier Kampfschwimmern aufgeteilt wurden.

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Chris Dye poses with his 22lb WWII-era haversack filled with explosive used to blow up Noriega�s boat. (Chris Dye)

http://abload.de/img/seal149c0a.jpg
Bolivien 1991

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Another successful mission for UMOPAR an their American advisors. (Tony Duchi)

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Bolivien 1991

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Navy SEALs were instrumental in training local law-enforcement officials in riverine operations and tactics. (Tony Duchi)

Quelle:
SEALs - The US Navy�s Elite Fighting Force
Mir Bahmanyar with Chris Osman, Osprey Publishing 2008

Geschrieben von: Dave76 25. Jan 2014, 13:05

ZITAT(Father Christmas @ 25. Jan 2014, 12:25)

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Die Waffengaben passen leider nicht. M�glich das es sich um ein XM4 handelt?

XM4? M�glich, kann ich nicht so genau erkennen. K�nnte auch 'en Model 727 oder 723 sein, ich blicke da 'eh nicht so ganz durch, basiert das XM4 auf dem 727? Anyway, die Bezeichnung M16A2 ist gar nicht mal so falsch, damals wurden grunds�tzlich alle AR15 Abarten im US-Milit�r als M16A2 bezeichnet, gefolgt, wenn �berhaupt, von der genaueren Versionsbezeichnung:

Geschrieben von: Dave76 25. Jan 2014, 19:39

SEAL Team One, Detachment Golf, Juliett Platoon, Vietnam 1970:

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Left: Walter Baylett with Stoner and binoculars. Right: LTJG Joseph Quincannon with M16, wearing Levi's jeans, belt knife and vest for carrying M16 magazines.

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Darryl Young (with bananas) and Bill Bruce returning to SEAL camp from an operation on Dung Island, 1970.

Darryl Young

Geschrieben von: Dave76 25. Jan 2014, 20:03

SEAL Team One, Alpha Platoon, Cau Mau, 1968

Geschrieben von: MajorPayne 26. Jan 2014, 12:14

Klasse Bilder!

Geschrieben von: Dave76 28. Jan 2014, 10:43

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SEAL Operation In The Delta (Vietnam)
Photographer: Co Rentmeester

Geschrieben von: Dave76 28. Jan 2014, 10:46

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SEAL Operation In The Delta (Vietnam)
Photographer: Co Rentmeester

Geschrieben von: sailorGN 28. Jan 2014, 11:32

Zwei Fragen: Warum die ABC-Masken auf einigen Bildern? Ich dachte immer, CS gegen Tunnel wurde eher in den Bergen und nicht im Delta eingesetzt? Zweite Frage dazu: Warum die LAWs?

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 28. Jan 2014, 11:58

Kann die Bilder leider nicht sehen (schwache Verbindung); CS wurde auch von Flugzeugen eingesetzt, bspw. bei CSAR und �hnlichen Eins�tzen (Mayaguez Zwischenfall, ...). Eine LAW ist auch gegen "verbunkerten" Gegner einsetzbar. Durch den VC wurden auch gepanzerte Fahrzeuge (PT-76) eingesetzt (?) und erbeutet.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 28. Jan 2014, 12:05

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Zwei Fragen: Warum die ABC-Masken auf einigen Bildern? Ich dachte immer, CS gegen Tunnel wurde eher in den Bergen und nicht im Delta eingesetzt? Zweite Frage dazu: Warum die LAWs?

CS wurde von den SEALs eingesetzt um den Gegner ins Freie zu treiben, besonders VC welche sich in befestigten Unterst�nden und Bunkern verschanzt hatten. Gegen solche Befestigungen und Bunker kamen eben auch die LAWs zum Einsatz, daneben wurden diese aber auch h�ufig genutzt, um verfolgende Gegner zu verlangsamen, wenn sich der kleine SEAL-Trupp nach Kontakt zur�ckzog.

Geschrieben von: sailorGN 28. Jan 2014, 13:07

Ah, alles klar... CS wurde aus der Luft, per "Granate" und per Mighty Mite, einem tragbaren (?) Erzeugersystem eingesetzt. Nur war mir nicht so klar, wie man im Delta wirklich Tunnelsysteme anlegen konnte.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 30. Jan 2014, 01:47

Geschrieben von: Dave76 30. Jan 2014, 22:26

SEAL Team One, Nha Be (?), 1966

Geschrieben von: Dave76 30. Jan 2014, 22:40

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ST-1 Alfa Plt at Okinawa prep for Op Thunderhead [1972]

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Melvin S Dry briefs his men during Op Thunderhead [1972]

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ST-1 squad in Vietnam

SEAL Team One, X-Ray Platoon

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 30. Jan 2014, 22:46

Jetzt wo ich wieder im Reich des WLAN bin:

Schicke Bilder

--
Gibt es zu:

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SEAL Team One, Nha Be (?), 1966

mehr Hintergrundinformationen ?
Das sieht so nach klassischem Kampfschwimmer-/Tauchereinsatz aus. Entweder Force Protection oder was agressiveres ?

Geschrieben von: Dave76 30. Jan 2014, 23:05

ZITAT(Father Christmas @ 30. Jan 2014, 22:46)

Gibt es zu:

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SEAL Team One, Nha Be (?), 1966

mehr Hintergrundinformationen ?
Das sieht so nach klassischem Kampfschwimmer-/Tauchereinsatz aus. Entweder Force Protection oder was agressiveres ?

Leider nicht genaueres, aber die SEAL Teams und (vor allem eher) die UDTs f�hrten auch Force Protection und Bergungseins�tze in Vietnam durch.

Edit: Bild mal mit auf die neue Seite genommen

Geschrieben von: Dave76 30. Jan 2014, 23:46

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Navy SEALs - Men with Green Faces
Department of Defense 1969 - PIN 25371 - THIS PROGRAM DEMONSTRATES FUNCTIONS OF THE NAVY'S FROGMEN COMMANDOS, THE "SEALS." REFLECTS THE EXCITEMENT OF PARACHUTE JUMP TRAINING, TO THE QUIET OF JUNGLE PATROLS AND A CROSS-SECTION OF LIFE IN THIS UNIQUE ORGANIZATION

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14SE3HzHLi4

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jan 2014, 00:13

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Sea Air Land (SEAL) Team One 1970-05-29 (May 29, 1970)
Sea, Air, Land (SEAL) Team One, 1970. National Archives description: "This film shows Navy SEALs in action in the jungles of Long Phu, Vietnam. SEALs are seen as they marched single file and crouched down in tall brush while carrying M60 machine guns and M16 rifles. A group of SEALs is shown as they disembarked from a boat and moved into the jungle, and a radioman (RM) is seen as he talked on a radio. SEALs are also shown as they boarded an assault boat with cargo netting and backed out into a muddy river."
National Archives Identifier: 2642077
Producer: United States Navy
Audio/Visual: silent, color

https://archive.org/details/NPC-47448

Geschrieben von: kommando11 31. Jan 2014, 12:12

sieht so aus, wie wenn da manche jeans tragen auf den bildern. gibts dazu infos?

Geschrieben von: Father Christmas 31. Jan 2014, 12:25

CombatLevi's

Geschrieben von: Fighting Eagel 31. Jan 2014, 12:28

ZITAT(kommando11 @ 31. Jan 2014, 12:12)

sieht so aus, wie wenn da manche jeans tragen auf den bildern. gibts dazu infos?

die Jeans waren einfach robuster als damalige Uniform Hosen..

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jan 2014, 12:30

ZITAT(kommando11 @ 31. Jan 2014, 12:12)

sieht so aus, wie wenn da manche jeans tragen auf den bildern. gibts dazu infos?

Robuster als die BDUs, Jeans hielten einfach den st�ndig feuchten Bedingungen besser stand und waren insgesamt widerstandsf�higer in Bezug auf Vegetation und Insekten.

Geschrieben von: MajorPayne 31. Jan 2014, 16:59

Ich frage auch gleich mal nach:

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Melvin S Dry briefs his men during Op Thunderhead [1972]

Was sehen wir im Hintergrund? Kommt mir vor wie eine duale Abschussvorrichtung f�r Marschflugk�rper von einem U-Boot.

€dit: Ich Depp. Die Unternehmung wurde ja mit Namen angegeben. Laut Wikipedia handelt es sich um das Deck der USS Grayback.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Thunderhead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grayback_%28SSG-574%29

Geschrieben von: Dirk Diggler 31. Jan 2014, 17:13

MajorPayne:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_Deck_Shelter

Edit: In obigem Fall wars tats�chlich ein umgebautes SSG.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jan 2014, 18:57

Wie der Titel verr�t http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plankowner, SEAL Team One, 1962

JFK und SEAL Team 2, April 1962 (Kennedy war eine der treibende Kr�fte hinter der Aufstellung und Erweiterung von SOF)

Fr�he Aufnahme von SEAL Team One frogmen

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Roy Boehm, at far right, briefs SEAL Team Two as they prepare for the invasion of Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Note the AR-15 rifles that caused such a furor. Photo from the Bill Goines Collection.

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SEAL Team Two poses with Special Forces instructors during training at Fort Bragg, N.C., Aug. 1963. During the training, the team jumped from P-3s, C-47s, Caribous, C-1As, and A-3 jets, up to 30,000 feet and at speeds up to 300 mph. Back row, left to right: Ensign Jack Macione, Lt. DiMartino, Stan Janecka, J.C. Tipton, Louis Kucinski, Jim Wallace, and Thronton. Front row, left to right: Bill Goines, Lennie Waugh, McKeon, Brozak and Red McCarthy. At front is the team's German shepherd. Photo from Bill Goines Collection.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 2. Feb 2014, 16:13

UDT-21 (wurde kurze Zeit sp�ter zu SEAL Team Four) Froschmann mit schallged�mpfter MAC-10 w�hrend des einsatzvorbereitenden Trainings f�r Beirut (MARG 1-83) im Jahr 1982.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 2. Feb 2014, 20:43

Selber Herr wie zuvor, hier mit, wie mir scheint, einem HK21.

Geschrieben von: Der Weisse Hai 2. Feb 2014, 20:44

Die USS Grayback habe ich 2011 sogar in Manhattan besucht.
Wer mal in "Big Apple" ist: Ein Besuch im USS Intrepid Sea-Air-Space-Museum lohnt sich!

DWH

Geschrieben von: Der Weisse Hai 4. Feb 2014, 14:11

Ich muss mich korrigieren. Die "Grayback" wurde in den 1980ern versenkt. Im Intrepid-Museum liegt die USS Growler, die aber zur Grayback-Klasse geh�rt.

DWH

Geschrieben von: Dave76 6. Feb 2014, 21:33

Geschrieben von: Dave76 10. Aug 2015, 16:09

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SEALs armed with MP5s and shotguns take down a crew member of a ship they boarded during a training exercise aboard the USS Mount Whitney in the early 90's. VBSS as it's know for � Visit, Board, Search and Seizure, is one of a number of way of dealing with piracy and ship transporting illegal arms. Photo: Greg E. Mathieson Sr. / NSW Publications, LLC

Geschrieben von: Dave76 29. Aug 2018, 17:43

ZITAT(Apotheon @ 29. Aug 2018, 13:44)

Sch�nes retro Video zu den SEALs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7TtCZ9jtmw

ZITAT(Dave76 @ 29. Aug 2018, 18:41)

Sch�ner Fund! Allerdings stimmt der Zusatz "Vietnam War era movie" nicht, zwar werden kurz auch Aufnhamen aus dieser Zeit gezeigt, aber das Filmchen selbst d�rfte aus dem Zeitraum Anfang bis Mitte der Achtziger stammen.

Geschrieben von: Dave76 20. Jan 2019, 21:41

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The Stoner Machinegun: A Navy SEAL Remembers

While not a product of the 80's, this documentary produced during the 1990's is an interview with Retired LT. CME. Michael J. Walsh about Stoner 63 weapons system used with by the Navy Seals in Vietnam. The video shows an impressive firepower demo of the Stoner 63 in a few of it's different configurations. While there is a wide range of information about the Stoner 63 available, this video chronicles the development of the weapons system throughout part of the Vietnam war through the eyes of LT. Walsh. The video covers the developments made by Cadillac Gauge for the weapon, the development of the "dead man's pin" and various ammunition feeding systems. For more 80's era advertising and videos visit Arms of the 80's at: https://armsofthe80s.blogspot.com/

https://youtu.be/uwjx7NA1HQs

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