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12. Feb 2018, 16:02 | Beitrag
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Zumindest insoweit finde ich die Mitteilung interessant, als dass offenbar
- Jeder Marine, welcher organisch in einem USMC-Infanteriezug eingeteilt ist, mit dem M27 ausgerüstet werden soll. Damit hat man zumindest auf Stufe Zug eine einheitliche Bewaffnung (keine Karabiner, keine MPs, keine LMG etc.).DAs M27 wird somit auf Stufe Zug das M16A4 ablösen. Das dies passieren könnte und man das IAR-Programm dazu benutzen würde, durch die Hintertüre eine neues Sturmgewehr einzuführen, wurde in diesem Thread ja bereits vermutet. - Das M249 auf Stufe Gruppe zugunsten des M27 fallen gelassen wird, also Präzision zugunsten von Feuerkraft. Das M249 ist auch relativ kompliziert und verfügt über kein Einzelfeuer, was meiner Ansicht im heutigen Umfeld ein Nachteil sein kann. - die Lauflänge ist grösser als jene des M4, aber kleiner als beim M16 das M27 soll als M38 auch als DMR zum Einsatz kommen The USMC's Beloved M27 Automatic Rifle Gets Another Job As The M38 Marksman Rifle -------------------- Europeans who remember their history understand better than most that there is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil (Ronald Reagan)
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10. Mar 2018, 17:12 | Beitrag
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ZITAT Marine Raiders don’t want any M27s
By: Shawn Snow February 23 While thousands of grunts across the Marine Corps will soon be scrapping their M4s for the new, more powerful M27 rifles, don’t expect the Raiders to follow suit. The Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command is taking a pass on the M27 after reviewing the new automatic rifle during its initial development. Simply put, the elite Marines were not impressed with the rifle’s ability plug any existing gaps in fire power and they found the weapon’s 16-inch barrel too long. “As of right now, the M27 doesn’t provide an additional capability or advantage over the M4A1 with SOCOM upper receiver group as the standard rifle carried by Raiders,” Maj. Nicholas Mannweiler, a Marine Corps Special Operations Command spokesman, told Marine Corps Times. [...] But the Raiders won’t be using it at all. That’s in part due to the difference in mission sets between the grunts and Marines with Special Operations Command. The M27 isn’t compatible with the Raiders’ need to field a shorter barrel and the IAR’s volume of fire isn’t suitable to how MARSOC employs its Raiders on the battlefield. “Given the smaller size of our operational units, the M249′s volume of fire provides a greater tactical benefit than the advantages provided by the M27,” Mannweiler said. And concerns about the barrel length is partly about tactics and how Raiders operate in confined urban environments or tight ship corridors. “The maneuverability and handling of the weapon in a confined space like a ship during VBSS [visit, board, search and seizure], or a tight building is benefited greatly with the shorter barrel,” a former Raider told Marine Corps Times. “Have to think of the added five inches you get with a suppressor, which has become and will continue to be SOP [standard operating procedure] for the foreseeable future. You throw a six-inch suppressor on the end of a 16-inch IAR, and you pretty much have a medieval pike.” [...] “If we need to do shorter suppressed barrels, that’s an option. If we need to have a certain number of weapons within a team or company configured for designated marksman duties, we can do that too,” Mannweiler explained. “But the incompatibility issues between the SOCOM upper receiver group and the M27 lower receiver present an obstacle.” [...] The Raiders are interested in the M38, which is the designated marksman version of the M27. The M38 was borne out of M27 as the Corps was looking for a rifle that could hit targets at distances of 600 yards or more, a lesson learned from operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-...-want-any-m27s/ Der Beitrag wurde von Dave76 bearbeitet: 10. Mar 2018, 17:19 -------------------- "avenidas/avenidas y flores/flores/flores y mujeres/avenidas/avenidas y mujeres/avenidas y flores y mujeres y/un admirador" - Eugen Gomringer
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10. Mar 2018, 17:41 | Beitrag
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ZITAT “Given the smaller size of our operational units, the M249′s volume of fire provides a greater tactical benefit than the advantages provided by the M27,” Mannweiler said. Der Beitrag wurde von Hummingbird bearbeitet: 10. Mar 2018, 17:43 |
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21. Apr 2019, 15:12 | Beitrag
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ZITAT All of the Marine M27 rifles are in ― if you’re not a grunt or working with them, you’re not getting one April 20, 2019 The Marine Corps is fielding thousands of its new M27 Infantry Automatic Rifles to grunts across the service and, for now, it’s not buying any more. The last of the M27s come into the Marine Corps inventory this year and are expected to be in the hands of each infantryman from platoon commander and below by mid-2021, officials said. The proven weapon has increased lethality among the infantry, experts said. And the 30-round capacity rifle can outrange the M4 by 100 to 150 meters. The Corps also has decided to use the same platform as its squad designated marksman rifle. That is the M38. [...] The initial goal of getting 6,500 of the M27s into the ranks jumped to 11,000 and plans later called for 15,000 rifles. Any of the figures would have worked, fitting well below the maximum procurement contract number of 50,184. Ultimately, the Marines bought just over 14,000 M27s, Manny Pacheco, spokesman for Marine Corps Systems Command, told Marine Corps Times. Those were purchased at an estimated 1,600 initial purchase followed by 2,600 in 2017, 2,900 in 2018 and 7,000 in 2019. A little less than half of those, between 6,000 and 7,000, have not yet been fielded. While Neller repeatedly has said that the weapon has received majority positive reviews from the infantry it has not come into the ranks without its own controversy. [...] https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-...ot-getting-one/ -------------------- "avenidas/avenidas y flores/flores/flores y mujeres/avenidas/avenidas y mujeres/avenidas y flores y mujeres y/un admirador" - Eugen Gomringer
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21. Apr 2019, 16:01 | Beitrag
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Auch ne Möglichkeit ein neues Sturmgewehr zu beschaffen
Wie siehts den aus mit 40mm Granatwerfern? Bis jetzt habe ich noch kein M27 mit M320A1 gesehen, gibts da Bilder? |
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23. Apr 2019, 07:47 | Beitrag
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Aufgrund dessen, dass der M320A1 noch nicht eingeführt ist, wird es auch noch nicht viele Bilder davon geben.
ZITAT The Marine Corps plans to introduce a new weapon intended to enhance the lethality of infantry Marines on the battlefield. The M320A1 is a grenade launcher that can be employed as a stand-alone weapon or mounted onto another, such as the M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle. Scheduled to be fielded in fiscal year 2020, the system will give fleet Marines the ability to engage with enemies near and far, day or night. https://www.marines.mil/News/News-Display/A...enade-launcher/ -------------------- Europeans who remember their history understand better than most that there is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil (Ronald Reagan)
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