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Beitrag 31. May 2018, 09:50 | Beitrag #1
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Die US Army führt eine Marktsichtung bei kompakten MP´s durch:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05...tm_campaign=rss

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The US Army’s PEO Soldier – Project Manager Soldier Weapons has issued an Request for Information (RFI) to obtain industry feedback on possible submissions to Sub Compact Weapons (SCW) evaluations. The specification details offered by the Project Manager Soldier Weapons (PMSW) are scant and extremely broad. Describing potential SCWs as being select fire weapons, chambered in 9x19mm and having MIL-STD 1913 rail (Picatinny Rail) space.

The RFI, published 2 May, makes no mention of physical dimensions such as size or weight and instead seeks to cast as wide a net as possible for potential submissions. It does, however, call for suppressors, spares and slings for the weapon (not holsters). Potential future SCW submissions will have to chamber ‘9×19 mm military grade’ ammunition – meaning both M882 ball and the new XM1153 Special Purpose 9mm Round from Winchester.
 
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Beitrag 9. Jun 2018, 19:44 | Beitrag #2
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ZITAT(maschinenmensch @ 31. May 2018, 08:50) *
Die US Army führt eine Marktsichtung bei kompakten MP´s durch...


Man meint es offenbar ernst:

http://soldiersystems.net/2018/06/09/us-ar...ompact-weapons/

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Last month, Project Manager (PM)- Soldier Weapons (SW) queried industry about commercially available off-the-shelf (COTS) Sub Compact Weapons (SCW). The SCW is a highly concealable sub compact weapon system capable of engaging threat personnel with a high volume of lethal and accurate fires at close range with minimal collateral damage. An SCW includes but is not limited to functional weapon, magazines, cleaning kits, suppressors, specialized tool kit (if required), spare parts, slings, carrying cases, manuals.

Based on what they learned, the U.S. Army Contracting Command – New Jersey (ACC-NJ), on behalf of Project Manager (PM)- Soldier Weapons (SW), intends to make the following Firm Fixed Price contract awards, on sole source basis, to the following:

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0034
Awardee: Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC for CM9MM-9H-M5A, Colt Modular 9mm Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $22,000.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0037
Awardee: Beretta USA Corporation for Beretta PMX Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $16,000.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0038
Awardee: CMMG, Inc. for CMMG Ultra PDW Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $8,500.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0039
Awardee: CZ-USA for CZ Scorpion EVO 3 A1 Submachinegun
Amount: $14,490.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0040
Awardee: Lewis Machine & Tool Company for MARS-L9 Compact Suppressed Weapon
Amount: $21,900.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0041
Awardee: PTR Industries, Inc. for PTR 9CS Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $12,060.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0042
Awardee: Quarter Circle 10 LLC 5.5 CLT and 5.5 QV5 Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $24,070.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0043
Awardee: SIG SAUER, Inc. for SIG SAUER MPX Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $20,160.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0044
Awardee: Trident Rifles, LLC for B&T MP9 Machine Guns
Amount: $36,000.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0045
Awardee: Zenith Firearms for Z-5RS, Z-5P and Z-5K Sub Compact Weapons
Amount: $39,060.00


HK ist nicht dabei. Ich dachte schon immer, dass es ein Fehler war sich fast ausschließlich auf die MP7 zu konzentieren. Die UMP hat ja auch nicht richtig eingeschlagen.
 
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Beitrag 9. Jun 2018, 19:54 | Beitrag #3
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Die PTR 9CS ist ein MP5-Klon, im Geiste ist HK also doch irgendwie dabei biggrin.gif


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Beitrag 9. Jun 2018, 20:04 | Beitrag #4
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In den Kommentaren steht zu lesen, HK könnte die MP5 gar nicht mehr herstellen, daher wären sie nicht dabei. Ist da was dran? Man hört ja immer wieder, dass die benötigten Maschinen schon vor Jahren demontiert worden sein sollen.
 
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Beitrag 9. Jun 2018, 20:06 | Beitrag #5
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Zenith sind importierte MKE MP5's.
 
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Beitrag 13. Jun 2018, 08:38 | Beitrag #6
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ZITAT(maschinenmensch @ 9. Jun 2018, 21:04) *
In den Kommentaren steht zu lesen, HK könnte die MP5 gar nicht mehr herstellen, daher wären sie nicht dabei. Ist da was dran? Man hört ja immer wieder, dass die benötigten Maschinen schon vor Jahren demontiert worden sein sollen.

Zumindest in Deutschland hat HK vor zwei Jahren mit der MP5 an Ausschreibungen diverser Polizeibehörden teilgenommen. Fraglich ist, ob sie mit den verbliebenen Maschinen noch einen Großauftrag bedienen könnten.
 
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Beitrag 13. Jun 2018, 12:08 | Beitrag #7
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Auf diversen Messen wurde ja die MP-5A5 Mid-Live Improvement gezeigt. Sie werden also sicher noch Kapazitäten haben die Waffe herzustellen, auch wenn der Großteil des MLI abnehmbare Bauteile sind.

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Beitrag 16. Jun 2018, 10:32 | Beitrag #8
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ZITAT(maschinenmensch @ 9. Jun 2018, 20:44) *
ZITAT(maschinenmensch @ 31. May 2018, 08:50) *
Die US Army führt eine Marktsichtung bei kompakten MP´s durch...

[...]
HK ist nicht dabei. Ich dachte schon immer, dass es ein Fehler war sich fast ausschließlich auf die MP7 zu konzentieren. Die UMP hat ja auch nicht richtig eingeschlagen.


Und sie verkauft sich doch:
ZITAT
On 15 June, PM Soldier Weapons stated it also intends to solicit and award sole source contracts to the following:

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0048
Awardee: Heckler and Koch Defense Inc for HK UMP9 Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $10,850.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0049
Awardee: Angstadt Arms Corporation for Angstadt UDP-9 Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $15,950.00

Award Number: W15QKN-18-P-0050
Awardee: Noveske Corporation for Noveske Sub Compact Weapon
Amount: $17,200.00


US Army Announces Intent To Award 3 Additional Sole Source Contracts For Sub Compact Weapons [Soldier Systems]


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Beitrag 17. Jun 2018, 17:26 | Beitrag #9
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Ob "sie" sich verkauft wird man sehen, ich hatte auf eine MP7 in 9x19 gehofft.
 
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Beitrag 6. Jul 2018, 18:47 | Beitrag #10
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Gemäß fbo.gov muss man sich nun doch erstmal Gedanken darüber machen, was man denn eigentlich haben will. Man gewährt sich deshalb eine Bedenkzeit von 2 Wochen.

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Added: Jul 02, 2018 4:46 pm
This Synopsis of Contract Award is amended on 02 July 2018 to notify industry that due to changes in the Government's requirement, this opportunity is hereby cancelled effective immediately.

The Government is in the process of establishing new requirements for the Sub Compact Weapon Program and will announce the changes on fbo.gov within the next two weeks. Vendors interested in being notified for this new opportunity are encouraged to sign up under the "Interested Vendors List" tab of this announcement.


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Beitrag 7. Jul 2018, 07:03 | Beitrag #11
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Und, zumindest vorläufig, schon wieder vorbei:


http://soldiersystems.net/2018/07/07/us-ar...-source-awards/

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This Synopsis of Contract Award is amended on 02 July 2018 to notify industry that due to changes in the Government’s requirement, this opportunity is hereby cancelled effective immediately.

The Government is in the process of establishing new requirements for the Sub Compact Weapon Program and will announce the changes on fbo.gov within the next two weeks. Vendors interested in being notified for this new opportunity are encouraged to sign up under the “Interested Vendors List” tab of this announcement.
 
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Beitrag 7. Jul 2018, 13:06 | Beitrag #12
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Schau mal in den Beitrag direkt über deinem wink.gif


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Beitrag 27. Jul 2018, 22:27 | Beitrag #13
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Es geht weiter.

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ZITAT
Solicitation Number:
W15QKN-18-R-032M
Notice Type:
Special Notice
Synopsis:
Added: Jul 26, 2018 3:42 pm

The U.S. Army Contracting Command - New Jersey (ACC-NJ), on behalf of Project Manager Soldier Weapons, is seeking proposals in regards to a Prototype Opportunity Notice (PON) for Sub Compact Weapon (SCW) Systems. The ultimate objective of this program is to acquire a highly concealable SCW system capable of engaging threat personnel with a high volume of lethal force while accurately firing at close range with minimal collateral damage.

The purpose of this Prototype Opportunity Notice (PON) is to award up to 6 Prototype Other Transaction Agreements (OTAs) pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 2371b, with the goal of delivering a quantity of 15 functional weapons with Slings & Manuals, 40 - 20 round magazines and 80 - 30 round magazines, 5 cleaning kits, 3 suppressors, 2 specialized tool kits (if required for assembly/disassembly), and spare parts, within 30 days after award. If successful, a follow-on production OTA or Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) based award, may be made to one offeror for up to 350 SCW systems, which may include an option for additional quantities up to 1,000 SCW systems that may be exercised in quantities no greater than 350 SCW systems.

See attached SCW PON for additional information.


ZITAT
The structure of this program is a multi-phased approach:
PHASE I - OTA Awards: Offerors will be required to submit a 2.5 minute video and complete tabs titled Contractor Information, Pricing and Non-Traditional Certification in Attachment 1 – SCW Proposal Form. The Go/No-Go criteria tab in Attachment 1 – SCW Proposal Form will be used by Government evaluators to verify that the SCW meets the criteria. The Government intends to evaluate and award, based on Go/No-Go Criteria and lowest price, up to 6 fixed price, stand-alone OTAs procuring 15 SCW systems per offeror to be delivered within 30 calendar days after OTA award date.
PHASE II – Prototype Testing & Follow on Production Award: The delivered 15 SCW systems per offeror will undergo Prototype testing as outlined in Attachment 1 – Test Plan Outline. At this stage, offerors will be asked to provide updated proposals, to include, Schedule, Updated Price (Downward Adjustment Only), Delivery Capabilities, Quality Program, & Warranty. Based on successful completion of Prototype testing, evaluation of the testing results and updated proposals, the Government intends to make a best value decision for a follow-on production OTA or Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) based contract award to one offeror for up to 350 SCW systems. The first 10 SCW systems of the follow-on production award shall be delivered within 30 calendar days. The follow-on production award will include an option for additional quantities up to 1,000 SCW systems that may only be exercised in quantities no greater than 350 SCW systems.



15 Zoll = 381 mm
7 lbs = 3,175 kg
5,5 Zoll = 139,7 mm



Welche Waffen bleiben bei diesem Anforderungsprofil noch im Rennen? biggrin.gif

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Beitrag 27. Jul 2018, 22:46 | Beitrag #14
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Edit:

Nach genauerer Recherche kriegt noch nichtmal die MPX-K die geforderte Gesamtlänge mit eingeschobenenem Schaft hin. Da hat sich jemand verlesen.


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Beitrag 28. Jul 2018, 08:54 | Beitrag #15
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MP5K-PDW


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ZITAT(Wodka @ 28. Sep 2015, 12:38) *
Zur Kritik an der deutschen Justiz. Natürlich foltert die deutsche Justiz nicht, denn das würde bedeuten, dass ein Richter das Foltern anordnet. Damit verkennt der Fragesteller bereits die Gewaltenteilung in Deutschland. Für Folter ist nach der Gewaltenteilung die Exekutive zuständig.


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Beitrag 28. Jul 2018, 09:05 | Beitrag #16
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Der Ladehabel auf der linken Seit entspricht nicht "All controls on both sides of weapon".


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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 09:59 | Beitrag #17
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Das Frage&Antwort-Spiel geht los.

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Synopsis:
Added: Aug 01, 2018 5:12 pm
The purpose of this amendment is to provide answers to the questions that were submitted until July 31, 2018.

1. Question: Can the SCW meet the collapsed length requirement by using a side-folding and telescoping buttstock? The buttstock would telescope to change length of pull, but it would meet the length restriction when folded to the side. Would this scenario meet the Go/No Go criteria?
Answer: A folding collapsible buttstock is allowed but may impact other evaluation factors such as User in the Loop Testing - concealability and Ambidextrous Control Go/No-Go requirements.


2. Question: Are 20 round and 30 round magazines the maximum capacity OR could the magazines exceed these numbers? For example, would a 21 round magazine and 31 round magazine meet the Go/No Go criteria?
Answer: Magazine capacity shall include 20 round and 30 round magazines.

3. Question: Can the video show the weapon in a computer aided model OR should it feature actual live footage of the firearm?
Answer: Live footage of the actual firearm is required.

4. Question: Do we need to provide the weapon with sights (either optical or standard)?
Answer: The weapon must be provided with standard sights. The weapon will be tested for accuracy and dispersion from a mount, as well as with the user in the loop.

5. Question: If a Company does not submit to the Phase I OTA, will the Company be able to submit to Phase II OTA?
Answer: No.

6. Question: Can you clarify a requirement under PHASE 1-OTA Awards "Offerors will be required to submit a 2.5 minute video..." What does the video need to include?
Answer: Please refer in the PON to 3.2.1 OTA Video Proposal Instructions:
"Each Video Proposal submitted shall demonstrate how the Offeror's SCW meets the Go / No-Go Requirements. Video shall be presented in the sequence of the Go / No-Go Requirements listed in the SCW Proposal Form (Attachment 1). Hyperlinks within videos will not be considered. Only the first 2.5 minutes of video will be considered. Anything exceeding 2.5 minutes will be disregarded. Video playback shall be at normal speed and shall not be manipulated to speed up or slow down the video. Videos shall be compatible with Windows Media Player 10."

7. Question: Would the USG consider adding to the delivery timeline the ability to deliver after receipt of a U.S. Government EUC to allow for processing the EUCF, Import and Export licenses and ship to the U.S.?
Answer: The schedule will not be extended in consideration of end user certificates (EUCs) or other import and export licenses. Offerors are encouraged to submit EUC information to the Government as soon as possible and prior to the close of PON.

8. Question: After a re-read I still have a question -- Page 6 says - Attachment 3 - there was no attachment 3 in the release - is this a separate DOC or should it have referenced
Answer: Reference page 20, Attachment 3 - SCW MODEL OTA. Please request a copy of the SCW Model OTA from the Agreement Specialist, Tariq Miakhel, Email: tariq.m.miakhel.civ@mail.mil.

9. Question: How can we sufficiently demonstrate the weapon will "Perform optimally" with 147 grain 9mm ammunition?
Answer: Loading and firing 147 grain 9mm ammunition is a way that would prove an Offeror met this requirement.

10. Question: Is it sufficient for "Capable of attaching accessories/enablers" to show the weapon has mounting rails, or is it necessary / beneficial to show the accessories mounted?
Answer: The Offeror must demonstrate the mounting/attaching of accessories and enablers.

11. Question: How much detail is required to demonstrate "Shall be maintainable without use of special tools"?
Answer: Demonstrate how you maintain the weapon without the use of special tools.

12. Question: Do we need to demonstrate capability to deliver 15 SCW within 30 days in the video? How would we do this satisfactorily?
Answer: The evaluators need to determine if your company is able to meet this requirement. To help them make this determination, examples could include, Offerors briefly explaining or demonstrating how they are able to meet this requirement, how they have met similar requirements in the past, showing their manufacturing production capabilities, etc.

13. Question: This is the first opportunity I've seen that requires a video submission. Is there an expectation that this will become commonplace for PON or other solicitations? If so, we will need to invest more resources in in our graphics/film team.
Answer: There are no expectations this will become commonplace for future PONs/ solicitations. As far as Government is concerned, we cannot state what other solicitations will require as every solicitation is different and will have its unique requirements. For this PON, a video submission is meant to streamline the process for Offerors and the Government. Professionally produced videos are not expected.

14. Question: Can you elaborate on what is meant by the phrase "Must be able to fire marking/training round" for the ammunition?
Answer: Offerors must show, demonstrate, or explain how their weapon is able to fire a marking/training round.

15. Question: For the ambidextrous controls are an ambi mag release and ambi bolt release considered required?
Answer: Yes. There shall be ambidextrous controls on both sides of weapon.

16. Question: Will 33 round mags or variations from 20 and 30 be acceptable or must the mags be 20 and 30 round exactly?
Answer: Magazine capacity shall include 20 round and 30 round magazines.

17. Question: Is a folding stock acceptable or must it be telescoping?
Answer: The buttstock shall be telescopically collapsible.

18. Question: Does the firearm need to be fireable when collapsed?
Answer: Yes, the weapon needs to be able to fire when the buttstock is collapsed.

19. Question: SECTION 3 page 8 - which Does reference and explain I-OTA AWARDS?
Answer: Reference page 12, section 3.3 OTA Basis of Evaluation.

20. Question: From the latest revision I am concluding that no ENABLERS are being requested at this time as in the previous RFI - please confirm.
Answer: The only enablers being requested at this time are the three suppressors.

21. Question: On the final submission site - it has a 2G limit - I am not sure but the 2.5 Min video I think will exceed that not including the documentation required - will it allow a ZIP file or can the video be sent to another destination that has no 2G limit?
Answer: A 2.5 minute video should not exceed 2G; however, please notify us if your video exceeds 2G. From AMRDEC SAFE site: "A maximum of 25 files may be uploaded to a single SAFE package. However, we STRONGLY recommend that you ZIP or archive multiple files before sending. SAFE counts a ZIP file as a single file during upload. This means that you can upload as many as 25 ZIP files, with each ZIP file containing many other files. Please note that the total upload size still must be no more than 2GB."

22. Question: The request states that the weapon system have an overall length of 15" or less, and no folding stock. Is that correct?
Answer: Yes, that is correct.


23. Question: Is it acceptable that the charging mechanism is center line (single sided), ambidextrous reachable?
Answer: Yes.

24. Question: Is it acceptable for 15 round and 30 round magazines
Answer: Magazine capacity shall include 20 round and 30 round magazines.

25. Question: Is a folding buttstock acceptable?
Answer: The buttstock shall be telescopically collapsible.


26. Question: What provision has been made in the Army's program for supply of an End User Certificate and necessary administration time to process State Dept import licenses and relevant export licenses from overseas suppliers?
Answer: No provisions have been made in regards to end user certificates (EUCs). The schedule will not be extended in consideration of EUCs or other import and export licenses. Offerors are encouraged to submit EUC information to the Government as soon as possible and prior to the close of PON.


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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 16:54 | Beitrag #18
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Am Durchladehebel kann man sicher was machen.


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Zur Kritik an der deutschen Justiz. Natürlich foltert die deutsche Justiz nicht, denn das würde bedeuten, dass ein Richter das Foltern anordnet. Damit verkennt der Fragesteller bereits die Gewaltenteilung in Deutschland. Für Folter ist nach der Gewaltenteilung die Exekutive zuständig.


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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 17:15 | Beitrag #19
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...es fehlt die Schalldämpfer-Montagemöglichkeit?
Lustige Anforderungen. Ich bin zu keiner Waffe gelangt die ALLES erfüllt. Da müsste an jeder was gemacht werden, oder habe ich was übersehen?
Warum man möglichst kompakte Waffen haben möchte und dann zB Im-Griff-Magazine verbietet erschliesst sich mir nicht.

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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 17:28 | Beitrag #20
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ZITAT(Father Christmas @ 3. Aug 2018, 17:54) *
Am Durchladehebel kann man sicher was machen.

Ich würde behaupten, dass die MP5 PDW mit 3-Warzen oder Mündungsgewinde länger wird als die geforderten 15". Klar kann man beim Ladehebel was machen. Die Frage ist, ob man das für max. 1.000 Waffen überhaupt machen will.

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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 21:30 | Beitrag #21
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Ok, habs nochmals überdacht: z.B. SIG MPX-K wäre wohl mit einem "telescoping side-folder stock" innerhalb der Spezifikationen.
Siehe auch Bildausschnitt Beitrag #14 von SLAP: 14.7" / 374mm.
Ähnliches wäre mit einer B&T APC9 mit verkürztem Lauf und Gehäuse möglich. Dürfte vom Aufbau her nicht all zu schwer sein das zu machen.
Was ist wohl die Idee dahinter, die Lauflänge auf 5.5" zu begrenzen? Wenn alle anderen Kriterien wie Gesamtlänge und Gewicht eingehalten werden, wozu diese Begrenzung? Munition und Munitionsverträglichkeit ist ja ebenfalls bereits vorgegeben. Gehts da um Kompabilität mit bestehenden Zielhilfen?

Edit: warum kann ich keine Leerzeile mehr einfügen per Edit? Nach "...machen."

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Beitrag 3. Aug 2018, 22:10 | Beitrag #22
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ZITAT(Racer @ 3. Aug 2018, 22:30) *
Ok, habs nochmals überdacht: z.B. SIG MPX-K wäre wohl mit einem "telescoping side-folder stock" innerhalb der Spezifikationen.
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Da hat SIG was im Produktportfolio.



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Beitrag 6. Aug 2018, 23:37 | Beitrag #23
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Passt:
https://www.sigsauer.com/store/sig-mpx-sbr.html
(siehe Video)https://img.youtube.com/vi/WWsOptCemuY/maxresdefault.jpg


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Beitrag 7. Aug 2018, 13:40 | Beitrag #24
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Warum man möglichst kompakte Waffen haben möchte und dann zB Im-Griff-Magazine verbietet erschliesst sich mir nicht.


Gibt es grundsätzliche Probleme mit "Im-Griff-Magazinen"? Bin ein Feuerwaffenlaie und kann mir beim besten Willen nichts vorstellen was dagegen sprechen würde. Bullpups abzulehnen hat ja noch einigermaßen nachvollziehbare Gründe, aber sowas? confused.gif

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Beitrag 7. Aug 2018, 18:08 | Beitrag #25
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The purpose of this amendment is to provide answers to the questions that were submitted until August 06, 2018 and provided a revised Attachment 1.

1. QUESTION: Will our offer to the government be disqualified if another company offers a different product from the same manufacturer?
ANSWER: No.

2. QUESTION: Will a weapon with a ported barrel and integrated suppressor which meets all of the Go/No Go requirements be accepted?
ANSWER: Yes.

3. QUESTION: If our submission has a ported barrel and integrated suppressor designed to be on the weapon at all times, will Testing Goal #3 (Acoustic) be conducted in that configuration?
ANSWER: Yes.

4. QUESTION: IF Army would consider a 1 minute extension time, Offeror believes the additional time will be of great benefit to the decision makers and convey a more complete Synopsis of capabilities.
ANSWER: The allowable video time will not be extended.

5. QUESTION: Regarding 147gn 9mm ammunition, does the government require performance/demonstration with subsonic or supersonic 147gn 9mm? Or both varieties?
ANSWER: The 147 grain 9mm ammunition that the Government will be using for evaluation is subsonic.

6. QUESTION: Is the charging handle a control that will be evaluated underneath the ambidextrous control Go/No Go criteria?
ANSWER: The charging handle will not be evaluated for the ambidextrous requirement against the Go/No-Go criteria.


7. Question: Column I beginning on Row14, the Average Price column is averaging the total evaluated amount vs. the unit price average. This is showing an Evaluated Price significantly inflated from what we believe is the intended result. Please confirm if the formula in the Average Price column is correct.
Answer: Thank you. The formula is incorrect. An updated version has been uploaded. This does not affect the proposal submission due date.

8. Question: Column B beginning on Row 14, the Suppressors are not listed as part of Follow-On Production items. Please confirm that you do not wish to have Suppressors in the Follow-On Line Items.
Answer: Suppressors are not part of follow-on production items.

9. Question: "150 decibels or less unsuppressed measured at a distance of 3 feet perpendicular to the bore"
Is this a correct statement or is this intended to be with the suppressor? Depending on the ammunition used, most 9mm ammunition fires at a rating around 160dB. Without some type of internal baffle, this 150dB rating is difficult to achieve without a suppressor.
Answer: It is the goal of the program to meet this sound level. This is an evaluated capability during the prototype testing, but it is not part of the Go/No-Go requirements.




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Und...

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36. QUESTION: What time is the cutoff (1700 EST)?
ANSWER: The cutoff time is 11:59 PM EST August 09, 2018.

37. QUESTION: Can we file an extension?
ANSWER: No.

38. QUESTION: Since the complete system requires the conversion kit should this be submitted as two separate proposals or as a two capabilities of one proposal?
ANSWER: The SCW as proposed must be a complete solution to meet the requirements. The weapon as delivered is what will be evaluated.

39. QUESTION: Does the bolt catch have to be on both sides of the weapon?
ANSWER: Yes. There shall be ambidextrous controls on both sides of weapon.


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US Army Selects 6 Companies For Sub Compact Weapon Prototype Opportunity [Soldier Systems]

Late last week, the Army notified six companies that they were selected to participate in the Sub Compact Weapon Prototype Opportunity.

Those companies are:
Angstadt Arms
B&T USA
Global Ordnance, LLC
Shield Arms
SIG SAUER
Trident Rifles, LLC

It is important to note that the companies have been notified they were selected and it is still up to them to accept the Army’s offer to participate. So far, we don’t have verification that all of the contractual agreements have been executed.
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http://www.recoilweb.com/army-awards-first...-bt-148719.html

So wie es aussieht, hat B&T gewonnen...
 
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hab immer noch nicht so ganz den sinn dieser Waffen verstanden mata.gif


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Beitrag 3. Apr 2019, 08:07 | Beitrag #30
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Gut verdeckt zu führen und beui bedarf viel tödliche Wirkung mit hohe Präzision.

Klassischerweise eine Personenschutzwaffe oder ein Bailout-Gun.

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