Nahostkonflikt, Bürgerkrieg in Syrien, Gefechte im Libanon, Hamas, Hizbollah, Israel Defence Forces etc. Einstellungen

[Dave76]

Mitten im Krieg aber hauptsache ein iPad.

Den braucht man als Bildschirm für die Drohnensteuerung, wie soll man sonst die Videoaufnahmen sichten?

[wiesel]

Ob es unbedingt ein 500€ Tablet von Apple sein muss, reicht da nicht auch ein Samsung für die hälfte des Preises? Oder bot Apple die besseren Konditionen?

[Dave76]

Ob es unbedingt ein 500€ Tablet von Apple sein muss, reicht da nicht auch ein Samsung für die hälfte des Preises? Oder bot Apple die besseren Konditionen?

Keine Ahnung, aber wen interessiert das? Vielleicht hatte er einfach schon ein iPad, vielleicht ist's auch 'ne billige Kopie, ist doch vollkommen Schnuppe.

[SailorGN]

Viel interessanter ist die Frage der Freund-Feind-Erkennung. Einige der SF tragen offensichtlich militärische Ausrüstungsstücke wie Helme/Westen, andere könnten aber genausogut als Irreguläre durchgehen... nur ein Patch/Wappen auf der Brust ist da nicht viel^^

[Dave76]

An Iraqi Policeman holds a drone near the village of Arbid, on the southern Mosul front, on November 12, 2016 during the ongoing military operation to retake Mosul from the Islamic State (IS) group. Iraqi forces launched a massive operation to retake the country's second city from the Islamic State group on October 17, and the Counter-Terrorism Service (CTS) special forces have pushed the jihadists back from some Mosul neighbourhoods. / AFP / Achilleas ZAVALLIS

A drone belonging to the Iraqi Federal Police hovers near the village of Arbid, on the southern Mosul front, on November 12, 2016 while searching for Islamic State (IS) positions during the ongoing military operation to retake Mosul from the IS group. / AFP / Achilleas ZAVALLIS

Lieutenant Colonel Hussein Hussein of the Iraqi police, steps outside an armoured vehicle turned into a drone control centre, near the village of Arbid, on the southern Mosul front, on November 12, 2016 during the ongoing military operation to retake Mosul from the Islamic State (IS) group. / AFP / Achilleas ZAVALLIS

Lieutenant Colonel Hussein Hussein of the Iraqi police operates a drone, inside an armoured vehicle turned into a drone control centre, near the village of Arbid, on the southern Mosul front, on November 12, 2016 while searching for Islamic State (IS) positions during the ongoing military operation to retake Mosul from the IS group. / AFP / Achilleas ZAVALLIS

Boys look an Iraqi soldier patrolling a street in the village of Jarif, some 45 kilometres south of Mosul, on November 12, 2016, after troops retook it from Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / SAFIN

Members of the Iraqi forces drive a BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicle as they hold a position in the village of Jarif, some 45 kilometres south of Mosul, on November 12, 2016, after retaking it from Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / SAFIN

Members of the Iraqi forces stand on their BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles as they hold a position in the village of Jarif, some 45 kilometres south of Mosul, on November 12, 2016, after retaking it from Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / SAFIN

Members of the Iraqi forces drive a BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicle as they hold a position in the village of Jarif, some 45 kilometres south of Mosul, on November 12, 2016, after retaking it from Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / SAFIN

[Seneca]

Der IS setzt bekanntlich häufig Suicide-Car-Bombs ein, auch beim Kampf um Mossul. Ein youtube Nutzer hat aus (IS-Propaganda?-)videos einige -leider wohl erfolgreiche- Angriffe zusammengeschnitten. Die Bildqualität ist erstaunlich hoch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MnNPS9rrP4
Häuserkampf gilt ja als schwierig, besonders schwierig stelle ich mir die Bekämpfung von Suicide-Car-Bombs in dynamischen Häuserkampfsituationen vor.
Man muss extrem schnell auf kurze Entfernung mit panzerbrechenden Waffen reagieren.
Wie wohl die Bundeswehr in solchen Situationen kämpfen könnte? Die Milan dürfte in dieser Situation etwas schwerfällig sein, die Panzerfaust bei sich schnell bewegenden Zielen zu wenig treffsicher. Am ehesten dürften Kampf- oder Schützenpanzer in Kombination mit guter Aufklärung auch aus der Luft ein Schutz sein, Ziel- und Bekämpfungsvorgang müssen sehr rasch erfolgen.

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[Kameratt]

Das Video hatten wir schon mal vor ein paar Tagen in einem anderen Thread.

http://www.whq-forum.de/invisionboard/inde...t&p=1370081

[goschi]

Wie wohl die Bundeswehr in solchen Situationen kämpfen könnte? Die Milan dürfte in dieser Situation etwas schwerfällig sein, die Panzerfaust bei sich schnell bewegenden Zielen zu wenig treffsicher. Am ehesten dürften Kampf- oder

Durch Aufklärung und Flankenschutz

Wie auf den Videos eindrücklich zu sehen ist, sind die Fahrzeuge gut erkennbar und identifizierbar und gleichzeitig die Einfallswinkel erschreckend simpel, es gibt sehr offensichtlich keine Absicherung und Aufklärung.
Natürlich sind dies gefährliche Waffen, effizient aber vor allem durch den offensichtlichen Dilletantismus der getroffenen Einheiten.

Ganz exemplarisch an dem Angriff auf einen M1A2 zu sehen, der offenbar sowohl ungesichert als auch selbst völlig inaktiv auf weitem Feld steht.

[Warhammer]

Jup,l. Man hat das Gefühl, dass die getroffenen Truppenkonzentrationen auch gleichzeitig der VRV sind. Das lädt natürlich unheimlich zu erfolgreichen Angriffen ein.

Wenn ich so weit vorne stehe braucht es zwingend einen Sicherungsbereich bis mindestens zur nächsten Kreuzung. Und außerdem verteile ich meine Fahrzeuge. Es wird trotzdem Opfer geben, aber weniger und auch weniger erfolgreiche Angriffe in der Gesamtheit.

[SpezPi(Ppl)301]

Auflockern, auflockern& wenn das nicht reicht weiter auflockern. Auch bei anderen Videos fällt auf, dass der Begriff: LEERE des Gefechtsfeldes" nicht umgesetzt wird. Wenn Litetarur des ersten WK liest nicht Entente Propaganda!), fällt auf, dass die alliierten Soldaten üblicherweise kaum deutsche Soldaten sahen......
Es scheint sber derzeit immer noch genug Preisgeld für den Jackpot im Fall, wie verdichte ich möglichst viel Personal, zu geben.
Wie ein Vorredner sagte, es mangelt auch an Sicherung. Grundsätze der Gefechtsführung. Mut reicht nicht.

[Dave76]

Rebel fighters shoot their weapon towards Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) controlled Tell Rifaat town, northern Aleppo province, Syria October 22, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

A rebel fighter in Marea city shoots a weapon towards Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) controlled Tell Rifaat town, northern Aleppo province, Syria October 21, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

A rebel fighter, with a camera attached to his head, rests near weapons on the outskirts of Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) controlled Tell Rifaat town, northern Aleppo province, Syria October 22, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

Rebel fighters ride a military vehicle on the outskirts of Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) controlled Tell Rifaat town, northern Aleppo province, Syria October 22, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

Men inspect a damaged site after an airstrike on the rebel held besieged town of Douma, eastern Ghouta in Damascus, Syria October 26, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

Rebel fighters attend military training in Idlib province, Syria October 27, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Der letzte Teil dieser Serie hätte sicherlich auch in den Kuriositätenthread gepasst...

[Dave76]

Rebel fighters drive a military vehicle in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A tank for rebel fighters drives in Dahiyat al-Assad west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A makeshift military front loader drives in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A rebel fighter rides a military vehicle in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A rebel fighter rides a military vehicle in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Rebel fighters react while riding a military vehicle in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Rebel fighters stand on a tank in Dahiyat al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 28, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Abandoned military vehicles are pictured after rebel fighters took control of Dahiyet al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 29, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

[Dave76]

Ein paar Worte vorweg: Ich habe beschlossen, ab jetzt auch vermehrt Bilder von nicht rein-Militärischem, also die Folgen der Krieges und seine zivilen Opfer, in die Bilderserien aufzunehmen. Es ist dabei immer ein schwieriger Drahtseilakt zwischen einem rein deskriptiven Informationsmodus und dem möglicherweise auch zu vordergründigen Ausbeutungs- und Leiddarstellungsmodus zu balancieren. Bei zu drastischen Bildern werde ich - wie auch schon in der Vergangenheit - lediglich ein Link zum Bild anbieten, aber wirklich nur bei Verstümmelten oder entstellten Toten. Ich hoffe das findet Zuspruch bei Moderation und Administration, als auch natürlich den der User hier.

A rebel fighter carries an empty smoking shell in Dahiyet al-Assad after firing towards Regime-held Hamdaniyah neighbourhood, west Aleppo city, Syria October 30, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A rebel fighter in Dahiyet al-Assad reacts while hanging on a tank's barrel, west Aleppo city, Syria October 30, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A rebel fighters' armoured vehicle drives n Dahiyet al-Assad, west Aleppo city, Syria October 30, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Men inspect a damaged site after an airstrike in the besieged rebel-held town of Douma, eastern Ghouta in Damascus, Syria November 2, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

A girl runs past a damaged site after an airstrike in the besieged rebel-held town of Douma, eastern Ghouta in Damascus, Syria November 2, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

Rebel fighters take a selfie, western Aleppo city, Syria November 3, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Rebel fighters stand with their weapons inside a building in western Aleppo city, Syria November 3, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A rebel fighter rests behind a barricade near weapons, east of the rebel-held town of Dael, in Deraa Governorate, Syria November 4, 2016. REUTERS/Alaa Al-Faqir

A rebel fighter inspects his weapon behind a barricade, east of the rebel-held town of Dael, in Deraa Governorate, Syria November 4, 2016. REUTERS/Alaa Al-Faqir

A toy vehicle lies next to blood stains on the ground of a kindergarten after an air strike in the rebel-held besieged city of Harasta, in the eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta, Syria November 6, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter rests with his weapon on a vehicle camouflaged with mud, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 7, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

An injured girl reacts at a site hit by an airstrike in the rebel-held Douma neighbourhood of Damascus, Syria November 7, 2016.

[Dave76]

A man inspects the damage at a site hit by an airstrike in the rebel-held Douma neighbourhood of Damascus, Syria November 7, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter stands with his weapon, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 8, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

A Harakat Nour al-Din al-Zenki fighter watches news about Donald Trump's election as president on his smart phone in the rebel held beseiged area in Aleppo, Syria November 9, 2016. REUTERS/Abdalrhman Ismail

Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter walks near vehicles carrying people fleeing clashes in Tweila'a village and Haydarat area, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 8, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

Blood stains the damaged ground after a strike on the rebel held besieged city of Douma, in the eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta, Syria November 8, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

Children walk near rubble of damaged buildings in the rebel-held besieged city of Douma, in the eastern Damascus suburb of Ghouta, Syria November 13, 2016. REUTERS/Bassam Khabieh

Rebel fighters gather during their advance towards the Islamic State-held city of al-Bab, northern Syria October 26, 2016. Picture taken October 26, 2016. REUTERS/Khalil Ashawi

Members of Syrian Kurdish fighters ride in a military vehicle in the town of Bashiqa, after it was recaptured from the Islamic State, east of Mosul, Iraq, November 12, 2016. Picture taken November 12, 2016. REUTERS/Azad Lashkari

Syrian Kurdish fighters ride a military vehicle in the town of Bashiqa, after it was recaptured from the Islamic State, east of Mosul, Iraq, November 12, 2016. Picture taken November 12, 2016. REUTERS/Azad Lashkari

A Free Syrian army fighter sits on a pick-up truck mounted with a weapon, as the supermoon partly covered by clouds is seen in the background, in the west of the rebel-held town of Dael, in Deraa Governorate, Syria November 14, 2016. REUTERS/Alaa Al-Faqir

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter uses a mobile as he stands with his fellow fighters in the town of Hisha after they took control of the area from Islamic State militants, in the northern Raqqa countryside, Syria November 14, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

Residents of Hisha return to their town, after the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) took control of the area from Islamic State militants, in the northern Raqqa countryside, Syria November 14, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

[Dave76]

A rebel fighter starts a fire near a tank in the rebel-held village of Jubata al-Khashab, in Quneitra Governorate, Syria November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Alaa Al-Faqir

A damaged ambulance is pictured after an airstrike on the rebel-held town of Atareb, in the countryside west of Aleppo, Syria November 15, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

A damaged operation room is pictured after an airstrike on the rebel-held town of Atareb, in the countryside west of Aleppo, Syria November 15, 2016. REUTERS/Ammar Abdullah

Children collect firewood amid damage and debris at a site hit yesterday by airstrikes in the rebel held al-Shaar neighbourhood of Aleppo, Syria November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Abdalrhman Ismail

Men are pictured next to damaged buildings at a site hit yesterday by airstrikes in the rebel held al-Shaar neighbourhood of Aleppo, Syria November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Abdalrhman Ismail

A Syria Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter carries binoculars as his fellow fighters walk near the town of Tel al-Saman in the northern rural area of Raqqa, Syria November 17, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

An injured boy sits near a man as they warm themselves by a fire in a rebel held area of Aleppo, Syria November 18, 2016. REUTERS/Abdalrhman Ismail

[Dave76]

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) female fighter boils a kettle while resting in Tal Samin village, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) female fighter's braid is pictured while she is carrying her weapon in Tal Samin village, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighter looks through the scope of his weapon in Tal Samin village, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) fighters walk in Tal Samin village, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

A Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) vehicle with a weapon installed on it is pictured, in Tal Samin village, north of Raqqa city, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Rodi Said

A medic stands behind sandbags in the damaged al-Hakeem hospital, in the rebel-held besieged area of Aleppo, Syria November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Abdalrhman Ismail

[PzBrig15]

Sehr imposante und teilweise schaurige Bilder. Was mich immer wieder wundert: Wie kann man in einer solchen zerstörten Infrastruktur noch Handyempfang haben, Akkus laden und ein Funknetz halbwegs mit Datenraten aufrecht erhalten?

[wiesel]

Satellitentelefon.

[der_finne]

Naja auf obigen Bildern ist recht eindeutig ein iPhone (! zusehen.Strom wird wohl nicht überall automatisch gekappt und so n Handymast reicht ja n paar Meter. Wie es mit den Datenraten aussieht weiß ich nicht aber zum telefonieren scheints zu reichen.

[Schwabo Elite]

Ja, Mobiltelefone sind sehr resiliente Kommunikationsgeräte, da sie grundsätzlich über zwei Verbindungsarten verfügen: Datenverbindungen per Sendemast und Wifi-Verbindungen via Hotspots. Letztere lassen sich ja über jeden festen oder ebenfalls mobilen Internetaccesspoint aufbauen. Die Datenrate ist dann wirklich mies, aber das ist Nebensache. Und eine Satelliten- oder DSL-Leitung kann eine Menge WhatsApp Nachrichten verschicken.

[Dave76]

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) enter the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016, during an ongoing operation against Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. The Popular Mobilisation have focused their operations on Tal Afar, a large town still held by IS west of Mosul and this week announced they had cut the main road between it and Syria. / AFP / AHMAD

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), rest after entering the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016, during an ongoing operation against Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / AHMAD

A Shiite fighter from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), loads a BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missile as they advance towards the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

A sniper and a Shiite fighter from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), enter the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016, during an ongoing operation against Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. / AFP / AHMAD

A MI 28 provides aerial support as Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), enter the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), enter the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

Shiite fighter from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), rests in the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

[Dave76]

Syrian Army modified T-72 tanks hold a position during Syrian forces' assault to capture the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP

A Syrian Army modified T-72 tank drives during Syrian forces' assault to capture the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP

A Syrian Army modified T-72 tank drives near the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri during Syrian forces' assault to capture it, near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

A Syrian Army modified T-72 tank drives across a field by the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri during Syrian forces' assault to capture the village, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

A Syrian Army sniper looks through the scope of a Dragunov rifle as he holds position during Syrian forces' assault to capture the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

A picture taken on November 22, 2016 from the Syrian government forces' side shows smoke plumes rising from the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri during Syrian forces' assault to capture it, near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

A picture taken on November 22, 2016 shows a Russian DShK heavy machine gun lying over spent rounds in a position during Syrian forces' assault to capture the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

A Syrian Army soldier flashes the sign of victory during Syrian forces' assault to capture the rebel-held village of Hawsh Nasri, which is located near the rebel-held town of Douma on the eastern outskirts of the capital Damascus. / AFP / STRINGER

[Dave76]

An Islamic State suicide bomber attacks Iraqi special forces soldiers with a car bomb during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi special forces soldier walks in front of humvees destroyed by an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

Iraqi special forces soldiers stand in front of humvees destroyed by an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi special forces soldier walks in front of humvees destroyed by an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi special forces soldier gestures in front of a burning house after an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack at Iraqi special forces during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

A man tries to extinguish a fire after an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack on Iraqi special forces soldiers during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi special forces soldier gestures after an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack at Iraqi special forces soldiers during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

An Iraqi special forces soldier fires his rifle after an Islamic State suicide car bomb attack against Iraqi special forces during clashes in Mosul, Iraq, November 19, 2016. REUTERS/Goran Tomasevic

[RanzigerHamburge...]

A Shiite fighter from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), loads a BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missile as they advance towards the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

Erstmal vielen Dank für die Bilder.
Der offen rumliegende Behälter des verschossenen Flugkörpers sieht mir stark nach der Anwesenheit von Toophans aus. Gibt es davon mehr Bilder? Besonders die linke Seite des Starters wäre interessant.

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[Dave76]

Der offen rumliegende Behälter des verschossenen Flugkörpers sieht mir stark nach der Anwesenheit von Toophans aus. Gibt es davon mehr Bilder? Besonders die linke Seite des Starters wäre interessant.

Leider nicht genau von diesem Starter, aber da die auf diesem Bild abgebildeten schiitischen Al-Haschd asch-Schaʿbī ('Volksmobilmachungskräfte'; engl. Hashed al-Shaabi 'Popular Mobilisation Force') ja u.a. vom Iran ausgerüstet werden, scheint dies eine sehr plausible Möglichkeit zu sein. Hier ein weiteres Bild dieser Serie, welches Behälter mit AT-14 Spriggan/9K135 Kornet, bzw. mit dem LFK 9M133K zeigt:

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), carry ammunition and missiles as they advance towards the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016, during an ongoing operation against Islamic State (IS) group jihadists. The Popular Mobilisation have focused their operations on Tal Afar, a large town still held by IS west of Mosul and this week announced they had cut the main road between it and Syria. / AFP / AHMAD

[Dave76]

Shi'ite fighters reload weapons during a battle with Islamic State militants at the airport of Tal Afar west of Mosul, Iraq November 18, 2016. REUTERS/Thaier Al-Sudani

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries drive a T-72 tank as they advance near the town of Tal Abtah, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016 during a broad offensive by Iraq forces to retake the city Mosul from jihadists of the Islamic State group. / AFP / AHMAD

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries fire a heavy machine gun as they advance near the town of Tal Abtah, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016.

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries fire their weapons as they advance near the town of Tal Abtah, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016.

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries fire at an Islamic State group target as they advance near the town of Tal Abtah, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016.

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries hold a position near the village of Tal Faris, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016.

Iraqi Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries gesture to the camera as they warm up around a fire near the village of Tal Faris, south of Tal Afar, on November 30, 2016.

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries drive through a desert area near the village of Al-Boutha al-Sharqiyah, west of Mosul, on December 2, 2016.

Shiite fighters from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation) paramilitaries drive a vehicle mounted with a 23mm anti-aircraft gun near the village of Al-Boutha al-Sharqiyah, west of Mosul, on December 2, 2016.

[revolution]

https://abload.de/img/iraq505dfljm.jpg

A Shiite fighter from the Hashed al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilisation), loads a BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missile as they advance towards the village of al-Tofaha, southeast of the city of Tal Afar, on November 25, 2016. | Getty Images

Wahrscheinlich eher Toophan statt TOW. vgl.:

#Iraq Iranian TOW/ Toofan ATGM used by Liwa Ansar al Marjaiat against IS forces in Fallujah.

Saudi-led Coalition seizes Iranian arms en route to Yemen

Wenn man sich die verschieden Bilder ansieht und Vergleiche zieht, dann scheinen original TOW Behälter die man dort so sieht gleichmäßig und matter gefärbt. Zudem haben sie oft einen Aufrduck in weisser Schrift. Der Starter ist bei den US TOW auch eine Idee kürzer, bilde ich mir ein.



Hauptindiz bleiben jedoch die Nutzer.

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[Dave76]

[Alligator]

Russische EOD-Teams in Aleppo bei der Arbeit:

[kommando11]

gibt es irgendwo eine aufstellung welche truppen russland in syrien im einsatz hat?

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