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Geschrieben von: Nite 14. Sep 2009, 22:44
Da es nichts mit dem Piratenproblem vor Somalia zu tun hat ein eigenes Topic:
ZITAT
September 14th, 2009 http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/14/u-s-special-forces-hit-al-qaeda-target-in-somalia/ Posted: 04:39 PM ET From Barbara Starr
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A daring U.S. Special Forces raid in Somalia may have killed a wanted al Qaeda terrorist, U.S. officials told CNN Monday.
Special Forces used a helicopter to fire on a car in southern Somalia, killing several people, including one they believe was Saleh ali Saleh Nabhan, a senior al Qaeda operative. Nabhan has been tied to several attacks in East Africa, including the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, according to the sources.
Nabhan has been on the FBI’s most wanted list for several years.
The officials who talked to CNN are familiar with the latest information on this incident but did not want to be identified because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
The helicopter flew from a U.S. Navy warship offshore, one of the sources said. The ship kept watch on the operation and was ready to rescue the U.S. troops if they got into trouble.
The official said the troops landed to take away the body believed to be that of Nabhan for positive identification.
CNN Pentagon Correspondent
WASHINGTON (CNN) — A daring U.S. Special Forces raid in Somalia may have killed a wanted al Qaeda terrorist, U.S. officials told CNN Monday.
Special Forces used a helicopter to fire on a car in southern Somalia, killing several people, including one they believe was Saleh ali Saleh Nabhan, a senior al Qaeda operative. Nabhan has been tied to several attacks in East Africa, including the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, according to the sources.
Nabhan has been on the FBI’s most wanted list for several years.
The officials who talked to CNN are familiar with the latest information on this incident but did not want to be identified because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
The helicopter flew from a U.S. Navy warship offshore, one of the sources said. The ship kept watch on the operation and was ready to rescue the U.S. troops if they got into trouble.
The official said the troops landed to take away the body believed to be that of Nabhan for positive identification.
Quelle: http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/
ZITAT
US targets suspect in Somali raid
US forces have "likely killed" a top al-Qaeda suspect during a US military raid in Somalia, a US official has told the BBC.
The suspect, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, is wanted over 2002 attacks on a hotel and an Israeli airliner in the Kenyan port of Mombassa.
He has been on the FBI's list of top suspects for years.
The claim followed earlier reports that foreign troops had attacked Islamist militants in southern Somalia.
A second US official said US special forces carried out the attack early on Monday Washington time.
The official said the operation had been "successful" and he believed Nabhan was dead.
The earlier reports said the troops wore uniforms with French insignia, and had attacked a vehicle carrying Islamists from the al-Shabab group.
A French military spokesman denied his country's forces were involved.
The reason for the confusion over the identity of the troops was not immediately clear.
Witnesses said the soldiers took away two men, and two bodies were left in the road after the attack in the southern coastal town of Barawe.
Spanish news agency Efe and Reuters also reported witnesses and al-Shabab sources as saying the Kenyan-born Nabhan had been killed.
Nabhan is suspected of bombing of an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya and attempting to shoot down an airliner in 2002, as well as two attacks on US embassies in the region in 1998.
Somalia has not had a functioning central government since 1991.
Rival Islamist factions are battling forces loyal to the weak UN-backed government, which controls only small parts of the capital Mogadishu.
US forces have "likely killed" a top al-Qaeda suspect during a US military raid in Somalia, a US official has told the BBC.
The suspect, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, is wanted over 2002 attacks on a hotel and an Israeli airliner in the Kenyan port of Mombassa.
He has been on the FBI's list of top suspects for years.
The claim followed earlier reports that foreign troops had attacked Islamist militants in southern Somalia.
A second US official said US special forces carried out the attack early on Monday Washington time.
The official said the operation had been "successful" and he believed Nabhan was dead.
The earlier reports said the troops wore uniforms with French insignia, and had attacked a vehicle carrying Islamists from the al-Shabab group.
A French military spokesman denied his country's forces were involved.
The reason for the confusion over the identity of the troops was not immediately clear.
Witnesses said the soldiers took away two men, and two bodies were left in the road after the attack in the southern coastal town of Barawe.
Spanish news agency Efe and Reuters also reported witnesses and al-Shabab sources as saying the Kenyan-born Nabhan had been killed.
Nabhan is suspected of bombing of an Israeli-owned hotel in Kenya and attempting to shoot down an airliner in 2002, as well as two attacks on US embassies in the region in 1998.
Somalia has not had a functioning central government since 1991.
Rival Islamist factions are battling forces loyal to the weak UN-backed government, which controls only small parts of the capital Mogadishu.
Quelle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8254957.stm
Die Gerüchte über einen Einsatz französischer Spezialkräfte in Somalia, welche heute den Tag über kursierten, wurden von den Franzosen dementiert.
//Edit:
FoxNews liefert Details:
ZITAT
<h1 class="head">FOXWIRE:Navy Seals Kill Wanted Terrorist in Somali Raid</h1> Navy Seals from US Special Operations Forces conducted a raid in southern Somalia on Monday that killed Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, one of 4 co-conspirators wanted in the 2002 bombing of an Israel owned hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, two senior U.S. military officials told Fox News.
Ten days ago President Obama signed the Execute Order for Nabhan, who since 2006 was on the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists. He was also wanted for the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Kenya in 1998.
They called it operation Celestial Balance: at least two AH-6 Little Bird helicopters deployed from one of two U.S. Navy vessels near Somalia's coast strafed a vehicle Nabhan was using to go back and forth between meetings.
Intelligence operatives had been monitoring Sabhan prior to the attack. The helicopters passed once, firing on the vehicle, and then circled back around to retrieve the body so they could make a positive identification, according to an official.
The attack in Mombasa took place on Nov. 28, 2002 - involving a suicide bomber that blew up the lobby of the Israeli owned Paradise hotel. On the same day the attackers unsuccessfully attempted to shoot down an Israeli owned Boeing 757 civilian jetliner run by Arkia. They fired surface to air missiles and missed.
Nabhan's Somali group, Al- Shabaab, has links to Al Qaeda.
Ten days ago President Obama signed the Execute Order for Nabhan, who since 2006 was on the FBI's list of most wanted terrorists. He was also wanted for the attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Kenya in 1998.
They called it operation Celestial Balance: at least two AH-6 Little Bird helicopters deployed from one of two U.S. Navy vessels near Somalia's coast strafed a vehicle Nabhan was using to go back and forth between meetings.
Intelligence operatives had been monitoring Sabhan prior to the attack. The helicopters passed once, firing on the vehicle, and then circled back around to retrieve the body so they could make a positive identification, according to an official.
The attack in Mombasa took place on Nov. 28, 2002 - involving a suicide bomber that blew up the lobby of the Israeli owned Paradise hotel. On the same day the attackers unsuccessfully attempted to shoot down an Israeli owned Boeing 757 civilian jetliner run by Arkia. They fired surface to air missiles and missed.
Nabhan's Somali group, Al- Shabaab, has links to Al Qaeda.
Quelle: http://http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,550100,00.html
Geschrieben von: -WDW- 7. Oct 2009, 13:26
Al-Qaida testet rektale Bomben
PARIS, 05. Oktober (RIA Novosti). Eine neue Methode des Terrornetzwerkes Al-Qaida beunruhigt französische Geheimdienste: Eine Bombe lässt sich einem Zeitungsbericht zufolge im Rektum eines Attentäters verstecken.
Wie die Zeitung „Figaro“ am Montag unter Berufung auf Geheimdienstkreise berichtete, hatte die Al-Qaida diese Methode Ende August beim Attentat auf den saudischen Prinzen Mohammed ben Nayef getestet.
Bei einem Empfang habe der Selbstmordattentäter die in seinen Körper rektal eingeführte Bombe per Handyanruf gezündet. Der Terrorist war sofort tot, der Prinz wurde verletzt.
Französische Geheimdienste machen sich nun Gedanken darüber, ob die geltenden Flughafenkontrollen effizient sind. „Unsere Airports sind zwar mit Metallsuchrahmen ausgerüstet. Bei solchen Attentaten lässt sich der Sprengstoff jedoch nur durch Röntgen entdecken“, so die Quelle der Zeitung.
Geschrieben von: Parsifal 7. Oct 2009, 13:56
Was ist denn das für eine dämliche Meldung? Stellen sich die Sicherheitsbehörden mit solch einer Pressemeldung nicht etwas sehr naiv dar und geben sich so der Lächerlichkeit preis?
Geschrieben von: Rapax 8. Oct 2009, 13:11
Findest du alles was mit dem Rektum zu tun hat albern und naiv auch wenn Terroristen da Bomben verstecken?
Geschrieben von: LoneWolf 8. Oct 2009, 15:10
Naja, die Methode ist ja wohl kaum neu 
Und wenn Polizisten bei Drogenkontrollen hinten reingucken, können sie es ja auch am Flughafen machen..oder bei Terrorverdächtigen..
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 20. Dec 2009, 19:31
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Geschrieben von: polo 21. Dec 2009, 11:40
An der Grenze kommt es schon seit einiger Zeit immer wieder zu Gefechten zwischen den Saudis und den Houthis - einer im Jemen lebenden Minderheit, die auch Al-Quaida Unterschlupf gewährt. Nach einem Angriff auf saudische Sicherheitskräfte ist der Konflikt eskaliert und die Streitkräfte beider Länder gehen massiv gegen die Rebellen vor.
Hier mal eine chronologische Übersicht:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8761045
ZITAT
The two al-Qaida militants killed in a recent shootout sneaked into Saudi Arabia from Yemen and were planning to carry out a massive attack, the Interior Ministry spokesman said Sunday. [...] Saudi officials have expressed concern that al-Qaida could use Yemen as a sanctuary to launch cross-border attacks after the network's Saudi and Yemeni branches merged in January. Washington has openly expressed concern that Yemen could fall apart and become another Afghanistan with an open door for al-Qaida.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8344394.stm
ZITAT
Saudi F-15 and Tornado jets targeted strongholds of the Houthi rebels on the Yemeni side of border, spokesmen for the group and Arab media said.
But officials in Sanaa denied there had been any attacks on Yemeni territory.
The attacks came after a Saudi officer was killed and 11 were wounded in a raid by the rebels on the Jizan region. [...] The London-based Arabic newspaper Elaph meanwhile reported that Saudi ground forces were also moving towards the Yemeni border.
The deployment was later confirmed by Arab diplomats, who told the Associated Press that army units and special forces were amassing in the area, and that several nearby Saudi towns and villages had been evacuated.
But officials in Sanaa denied there had been any attacks on Yemeni territory.
The attacks came after a Saudi officer was killed and 11 were wounded in a raid by the rebels on the Jizan region. [...] The London-based Arabic newspaper Elaph meanwhile reported that Saudi ground forces were also moving towards the Yemeni border.
The deployment was later confirmed by Arab diplomats, who told the Associated Press that army units and special forces were amassing in the area, and that several nearby Saudi towns and villages had been evacuated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8411726.stm
ZITAT
The Saudi Arabia air force has bombed a market in Yemen killing 70 civilians, rebels in the north of the country say.
The rebels, known as Houthis, have been fighting Saudi and Yemeni forces since August this year and accuse the Saudis of frequent attacks across the border.
The rebels, known as Houthis, have been fighting Saudi and Yemeni forces since August this year and accuse the Saudis of frequent attacks across the border.
http://www.rttnews.com/Content/GeneralNews.aspx?Node=B1&Id=1155476
Gruß
Polo
Geschrieben von: para 21. Dec 2009, 11:49
ZITAT
An der Grenze kommt es schon seit einiger Zeit immer wieder zu Gefechten zwischen den Saudis und den Houthis - einer im Jemen lebenden Minderheit, die auch Al-Quaida Unterschlupf gewährt. Nach einem Angriff auf saudische Sicherheitskräfte ist der Konflikt eskaliert und die Streitkräfte beider Länder gehen massiv gegen die Rebellen vor.
Was allerdings von dem juengsten US-assistierten Schlag gegen Terrorverdaechtige zu trennen ist. Der Konflikt mit den Houthi-Schiiten im Norden ist davon nicht betroffen und dass die mit Al-Quaida zusammearbeiten, halte ich fuer ein sehr wackeliges Geruecht. Die werden vom Iran unterstuetzt und bekaempfen die sunnitischen "Herren" im Jemen und teilweise auch in Saudi-Arabien. Al-Quaida macht sich sunnitische Gruppierungen im Sueden des Jemen zunutze, von dort soll auch das Attentat gegen die USS Cole ausgegangen sein.
Geschrieben von: stillermitleser 23. Dec 2009, 14:15
Laut SpOn hält der Iran angeblich seit 2001 einige Familienmitglieder Osama bin Ladens unter einer Art Hausarrest.
Wenn das stimmen sollte könnte das vielleicht auch Auswirkungen auf den Atomstreit haben.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,668792,00.html
Dem Iran werden mehr Freiheiten gelassen wenn sie versprechen gut auf die Bin Laden-Sippe aufzupassen.
Geschrieben von: revolution 23. Dec 2009, 14:59
Ich sehe da keinen Zusammenhang mit dem Atomstreit. Und wenn den Amerikanern die Bin Ladens so wichtig wären, dann hätten sie die Familie nicht am 12.09.01 aus den USA in ihr Heimatland ausgeflogen.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml
ZITAT
Sept. 30, 2001
Bin Laden Family Evacuated
Private Chartered Plane Took Family Back To Saudi Arabia
(CBS) Two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington.
One of bin Laden's brothers frantically called the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington looking for protection, Prince Bandar bin Sultan told The New York Times. The brother was sent to a room in the Watergate Hotel and was told not to open the door.
Most of bin Laden's relatives were attending high school and college. The young members of the bin Laden family were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret place in Texas and then to Washington, The Times reported Sunday.
Many were terrified, fearing they would be lynched after hearing reports of violence against Muslims and Arab-Americans.
They left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks.
King Fahd, the ailing Saudi ruler, sent an urgent message to his embassy in Washington pointing out that there were "bin Laden children all over America" and ordered, "Take measures to protect the innocents," the ambassador said.
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Bin Laden Family Evacuated
Private Chartered Plane Took Family Back To Saudi Arabia
(CBS) Two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington.
One of bin Laden's brothers frantically called the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington looking for protection, Prince Bandar bin Sultan told The New York Times. The brother was sent to a room in the Watergate Hotel and was told not to open the door.
Most of bin Laden's relatives were attending high school and college. The young members of the bin Laden family were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret place in Texas and then to Washington, The Times reported Sunday.
Many were terrified, fearing they would be lynched after hearing reports of violence against Muslims and Arab-Americans.
They left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks.
King Fahd, the ailing Saudi ruler, sent an urgent message to his embassy in Washington pointing out that there were "bin Laden children all over America" and ordered, "Take measures to protect the innocents," the ambassador said.
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Geschrieben von: den otes 26. Dec 2009, 08:38
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8430612.stm
Detroit airliner incident 'was failed bomb attack'
Geschrieben von: Reservist 29. Dec 2009, 19:44
ZITAT(stillermitleser @ 23. Dec 2009, 14:15) 
Dem Iran werden mehr Freiheiten gelassen wenn sie versprechen gut auf die Bin Laden-Sippe aufzupassen.
Das ist n riesiger Clan, an dem kommt man, wenn man im Nahen Osten Geschäfte machen will, nicht vorbei.
Osama ist da nur das schwarze Schaf.
Geschrieben von: Stormcrow 4. Jan 2010, 01:02
Ein wenig bekannter Nebenschauplatz: Jemen.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,669870,00.html
Vor allem dieser Part:
ZITAT
Angriffe auf Qaida-Stellungen
Jüngste Angriffe auf mutmaßliche Qaida-Stellungen im Jemen fanden bislang unter Führung der USA mit Unterstützung der jemenitischen Regierung statt. Der US-Fernsehsender CBS berichtete, dass es Angriffe mit Flugmarschkörpern [sic!] gab, die mit Attacken militärischer Einheiten am Boden kombiniert wurden. Einem Bericht der "New York Times" vom Ende des vergangenen Jahres zufolge begannen geheime Sonderkommandos aus den USA bereits vor einem Jahr damit, lokale Sicherheitskräfte im Anti-Terror-Kampf auszubilden.
Die jemenitischen Regierungstruppen führen im Norden des Landes mit Unterstützung von Saudi-Arabien Krieg gegen schiitische Rebellengruppen. Die Regierung in Sanaa versucht zugleich, eine Protestbewegung zu zerschlagen, die für eine Abspaltung des Südjemens eintritt.
Mit einem baldigen Angriff der USA auf al-Qaida-Terrorgruppen im Jemen rechnet auch der SPD-Außenpolitiker Rolf Mützenich. "Präsident Obama wird wahrscheinlich schon in den kommenden Tagen einen Militärschlag anordnen", sagte der außenpolitische Sprecher der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion dem "Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger". Obama werde versuchen, damit der Kritik der oppositionellen Republikaner an seinem angeblich zu unentschlossenen Vorgehen gegen den Terror zu begegnen. Sicherheitspolitisch sei ein militärisches Vorgehen aber nicht effektiv. "Die im Jemen aktiven radikalislamischen Terrorgruppen kann man mit militärischen Mitteln kaum entscheidend schwächen", sagte Mützenich. Mit Geheimdienst- und Polizeiarbeit seien Anschläge auf Dauer erfolgreicher zu verhindern.
Jüngste Angriffe auf mutmaßliche Qaida-Stellungen im Jemen fanden bislang unter Führung der USA mit Unterstützung der jemenitischen Regierung statt. Der US-Fernsehsender CBS berichtete, dass es Angriffe mit Flugmarschkörpern [sic!] gab, die mit Attacken militärischer Einheiten am Boden kombiniert wurden. Einem Bericht der "New York Times" vom Ende des vergangenen Jahres zufolge begannen geheime Sonderkommandos aus den USA bereits vor einem Jahr damit, lokale Sicherheitskräfte im Anti-Terror-Kampf auszubilden.
Die jemenitischen Regierungstruppen führen im Norden des Landes mit Unterstützung von Saudi-Arabien Krieg gegen schiitische Rebellengruppen. Die Regierung in Sanaa versucht zugleich, eine Protestbewegung zu zerschlagen, die für eine Abspaltung des Südjemens eintritt.
Mit einem baldigen Angriff der USA auf al-Qaida-Terrorgruppen im Jemen rechnet auch der SPD-Außenpolitiker Rolf Mützenich. "Präsident Obama wird wahrscheinlich schon in den kommenden Tagen einen Militärschlag anordnen", sagte der außenpolitische Sprecher der SPD-Bundestagsfraktion dem "Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger". Obama werde versuchen, damit der Kritik der oppositionellen Republikaner an seinem angeblich zu unentschlossenen Vorgehen gegen den Terror zu begegnen. Sicherheitspolitisch sei ein militärisches Vorgehen aber nicht effektiv. "Die im Jemen aktiven radikalislamischen Terrorgruppen kann man mit militärischen Mitteln kaum entscheidend schwächen", sagte Mützenich. Mit Geheimdienst- und Polizeiarbeit seien Anschläge auf Dauer erfolgreicher zu verhindern.
Angriffe am Boden - d.h. Special Forces, oder lokale Truppen? Weiß jemand mehr dazu?
Geschrieben von: Panzermaus 4. Jan 2010, 10:27
Ich hatte die Tage gelesen, dass es sowohl S.F. als auch lokale Truppen sein sollen. Die S.F. sollen seit einiger Zeit dort auch die Streitkräfte ausbilden.
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 4. Jan 2010, 13:08
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Geschrieben von: BlueSteel 4. Jan 2010, 18:51
ZITAT(Redeagle @ 4. Jan 2010, 13:08)
Im Jemen finden schon deutlich länger Angriffe von USA und den Saudies statt. .... Mit vielen toten Zivilisten (siehe weiter oben). Bei youtube gibts auch Videos von Bombenangriffen auf ein Dorf.
Quellen?
Hab auch bei Youtube kein einziges Video eines Bombenangriffes auf ein Jemetisches Dorf gefunden...
Geschrieben von: planlos 4. Jan 2010, 23:55
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8344394.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IkFZGag3JA
Das sind aber schiitische Rebellen.. nicht al-Qaida.
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 5. Jan 2010, 00:05
Heute heißt es, es würde keine Jemen-Front eröffnet.
Geschrieben von: den otes 5. Jan 2010, 00:16
naja nachdem fox herausgefunden hat dass "Poll: 70 per cent of Americans support sending troops to Yemen" von da : http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285035 wirds Obama wohl machen wenn er mal wieder etwas braucht. und ausserdem ist gesagt =/= getan, insbesondere bei den guten alten ami-geheimmissionen
Geschrieben von: Nite 5. Jan 2010, 00:24
ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 5. Jan 2010, 00:05)
Heute heißt es, es würde keine Jemen-Front eröffnet.
Ich habe die Aussage so verstanden dass es keinen großangelegten US-amerikanische Militärschlag geben wird.
Nichtsdestotrotz sind im Rahmen der Ausbildungs- und Beratertätigkeiten US-Truppen vor Ort. Finanzielle, technische sowie Ausbildungsunterstützung hat man den Yemeniten ja weiterhin bewilligt.
Geschrieben von: revolution 5. Jan 2010, 01:17
Kaum anzunehmen, dass man Al-Kaida/Terror wirksam bekämpft, wenn man das jemenitische Regime noch stärker unterstützt. Ich dachte, die Amis wären zumindest einen Funken weit lernfähig... war aber wieder nix... 
Geschrieben von: den otes 5. Jan 2010, 03:48
naivling
Ein Land beschäftigt zur Zeit alle amerikanischen Spitzenpolitiker: "Lassen sie mich mit dem Jemen beginnen", sagte US-Außenministerin Hillary Clinton, als sie gestern zum ersten Mal im Neuen Jahr vor die Washingtoner Presse trat. Die andauernden Bedrohung, die von Al Kaida auf der Arabischen Halbinsel ausgehe mache ihr große Sorge betonte Clinton. Gegen diese Zelle werde man konsequent vorgehen und der Regierung in Sanaa ab sofort doppelt soviel Geld für die Terrorbekämpfung zur Verfügung stellen wie bisher - nämlich 150 Millionen Dollar, sagte Clinton.
[...]
Seit 2003 führen sowohl das US-Militär wie auch der militärische Arm des Auslandsgeheimdienstes CIA Operationen gegen mutmaßliche Al Kaida-Terroristen im Jemen durch.
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/usajemen108.html
edit sagt dass die amis auch überlegen sich mal wieder in somalia zu engagieren http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/somalia244.html , da wird wohl jemand in hollywood geil drauf sein "black hawk down II" zu drehen (weg vom industrial-military-complex hin zum hollywood-military-complex)
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 5. Jan 2010, 12:53
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Geschrieben von: BlueSteel 5. Jan 2010, 13:46
Also doch nicht auf Youtube.
Nur weil du ein Video mit zerstörten Häusern und toten Zivilisten gesehen hast und dir der Verfasser des Videos mit der Überschrift nur gerne verklickern möchte das es die Amerikaner und nicht Al Quaeida war, muss man nicht alles glauben was man sieht.
Geschrieben von: Nite 5. Jan 2010, 14:24
Woran unterscheidet man auf einem Video denn ein totes Al Quaida Mitglied von einem "Unbeteiligten" (Zivilisten sind es schließlich beide)?
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 5. Jan 2010, 19:00
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Geschrieben von: BlueSteel 5. Jan 2010, 19:15
ZITAT(Nite @ 5. Jan 2010, 14:24)
Woran unterscheidet man auf einem Video denn ein totes Al Quaida Mitglied von einem "Unbeteiligten" (Zivilisten sind es schließlich beide)?
Das ist nicht die Frage gewesen.
Die Frage, welche Redeagle ja auch schon beantwortet hat, war eher die wie der Verfasser XY des besagten Videos beweisen will, ob der dort gezeigte Angriff tatsächlich von den Amerikanern und nicht von jemand anderem verursacht wurde? Waren z.b. auf dem Video eindeutig Amerikanische Einheiten zu erkennen, welche das Dorf angegriffen haben, und ähnliche Fragen halt.
Geschrieben von: Nite 5. Jan 2010, 19:24
ZITAT(BlueSteel @ 5. Jan 2010, 19:15)
ZITAT(Nite @ 5. Jan 2010, 14:24)
Woran unterscheidet man auf einem Video denn ein totes Al Quaida Mitglied von einem "Unbeteiligten" (Zivilisten sind es schließlich beide)?
Das ist nicht die Frage gewesen.
Die Frage, welche Redeagle ja auch schon beantwortet hat, war eher die wie der Verfasser XY des besagten Videos beweisen will, ob der dort gezeigte Angriff tatsächlich von den Amerikanern und nicht von jemand anderem verursacht wurde, also sprich der Verfasser will nichts weiter als nur gegen die USA Hass schüren.
War auch nicht konkret an dich gerichtet, sollte nur auf die Problematik bei der Beurteilung von Bildmaterial sowie der Verwendung von Begrifflichkeiten wie "Zivilist" hinweisen.
Geschrieben von: BlueSteel 5. Jan 2010, 19:25
Alles Klar
Geschrieben von: -WDW- 7. Jan 2010, 17:48
Al-Qaida plant Großanschläge auf See
ABU DHABI, 07. Januar (RIA Novosti). Das Terrornetzwerk Al-Qaida plant einem Zeitungsbericht zufolge große Anschläge im Arabischen Meer, dem Persischen Golf und dem Golf von Aden.
Wie die in Kuwait erscheinende Zeitung „Al-Qabas" am Donnerstag berichtete, hatte das Terrornetzwerk seit einigen Monaten Kämpfer für Angriffe auf Kriegs-, Fracht- und Passagierschiffe speziell ausgebildet.
Al-Qaida-Kämpfer im Jemen hätten über Anrainerländer wie Somalia moderne Sprengsätze bekommen, um Attacken wie die auf die „USS Cole" mit 17 Toten im Jahr 2000 vorzubereiten.
Auch somalischen Piraten stünden mittlerweile modernste Waffen zur Verfügung. „Der Persische Golf ist für Piraten- und Schmuggelaktionen offen", so der Bericht.
Geschrieben von: stillermitleser 12. Jan 2010, 21:23
Ich denke hier passt es am besten.
Saudische Truppen haben an der Grenze zum Jemen nach eine Ortschaft zurückerobert die von schiitischen Rebellen besetzt war.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,671597,00.html
Ist etwas darüber in den letzten in den westlichen Medien gewesen?
Hab ich gar nicht mitbekommen. 
Kann jemand etwas zur Kampfkraft der beteiligten Parteien sagen?
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 13. Jan 2010, 08:36
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Geschrieben von: stillermitleser 15. Jan 2010, 19:17
Alle guten Dinge sind drei
SpOn meldet das bei einem Luftangriff der Militärchef der Al-Quaida im Jemen getötet worden sei. Zwei Angriffe hatte er überlebt.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,672202,00.html
Mal sehen ob das wirklich stimmt. Sollte es so sein, könnte es in nächster Zeit etwas ruhiger im Jemen werden.
Zumindest für ein paar Wochen.
Allerdings steigt die Chance eines Racheaktes.
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 17. Jan 2010, 12:48
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Geschrieben von: Nite 16. Oct 2011, 17:34
ZITAT
Kenya troops move into Somalia to pursue kidnappers
Kenya has sent troops into Somalia in a bid to pursue militants it suspects of carrying out a spate of kidnappings.
Government spokesman Alfred Matua said troops were pursuing Somali al-Shabab militants across the border.
Two Spanish aid workers were abducted from Kenya's sprawling Dadaab refugee camp on Thursday.
A British woman and a French woman have been kidnapped from remote beach resorts over the past month, dealing a major blow to Kenya's tourism industry.
An eyewitness told the BBC he had seen about 25 armoured vehicles full of Kenyan soldiers passing through the Somali town of Dhobley. Tanks were also seen.
The BBC's Will Ross, in Nairobi, says there are reports that Kenyan military helicopters have been carrying out raids in Somalia.
In response, al-Shabab - the radical Islamist insurgent group in Somalia - tried to raise the alarm in the areas it controls, the Associated Press news agency reports.
Residents in the town of Qoqani said militants were going into people's homes and forcibly recruiting new fighters, according to the AP.
Abdirahman Omar Osman, spokesman for Somalia's UN-backed government, said Kenya is "providing logistical and moral support" but insisted that Somali forces are the ones "battling the Shabab on the ground".
Kenyan Defence Minister Yusuf Mohammed Haji said: "If you are attacked by an enemy, you are allowed to pursue that enemy until where you get him. We will force them far away from our border."
Our correspondent says some Kenyans fear their country could become a target for more al-Shabab attacks if it becomes more deeply embroiled in Somalia's conflict.
Kenya's Internal Security Minister, George Saitoti, announced on Saturday that forces would be sent to fight al-Qaeda inside Somalia.
The move comes days after the two aid workers with Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), named as Blanca Thiebaut and Montserrat Serra, were taken from Dadaab, the world's largest refugee camp.
Just 80km (50 miles) from the Somali border, Dadaab currently houses nearly half a million refugees, most of whom are Somalis who have fled conflict and famine.
A Kenyan driver working for the Care charity was abducted from Dadaab on 21 September.
Last month, 56-year-old Briton Judith Tebbutt was kidnapped - and her husband David killed - by gunmen while the couple were on holiday in a remote Kenyan resort at Kiwayu.
On 1 October, a 66-year-old French woman was seized by an armed gang on Kenya's northern resort island of Manda and taken to Somalia.
The UK Foreign Office has advised against all but essential travel to the Kenyan coast near the Somali border.
Kenya has sent troops into Somalia in a bid to pursue militants it suspects of carrying out a spate of kidnappings.
Government spokesman Alfred Matua said troops were pursuing Somali al-Shabab militants across the border.
Two Spanish aid workers were abducted from Kenya's sprawling Dadaab refugee camp on Thursday.
A British woman and a French woman have been kidnapped from remote beach resorts over the past month, dealing a major blow to Kenya's tourism industry.
An eyewitness told the BBC he had seen about 25 armoured vehicles full of Kenyan soldiers passing through the Somali town of Dhobley. Tanks were also seen.
The BBC's Will Ross, in Nairobi, says there are reports that Kenyan military helicopters have been carrying out raids in Somalia.
In response, al-Shabab - the radical Islamist insurgent group in Somalia - tried to raise the alarm in the areas it controls, the Associated Press news agency reports.
Residents in the town of Qoqani said militants were going into people's homes and forcibly recruiting new fighters, according to the AP.
Abdirahman Omar Osman, spokesman for Somalia's UN-backed government, said Kenya is "providing logistical and moral support" but insisted that Somali forces are the ones "battling the Shabab on the ground".
Kenyan Defence Minister Yusuf Mohammed Haji said: "If you are attacked by an enemy, you are allowed to pursue that enemy until where you get him. We will force them far away from our border."
Our correspondent says some Kenyans fear their country could become a target for more al-Shabab attacks if it becomes more deeply embroiled in Somalia's conflict.
Kenya's Internal Security Minister, George Saitoti, announced on Saturday that forces would be sent to fight al-Qaeda inside Somalia.
The move comes days after the two aid workers with Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), named as Blanca Thiebaut and Montserrat Serra, were taken from Dadaab, the world's largest refugee camp.
Just 80km (50 miles) from the Somali border, Dadaab currently houses nearly half a million refugees, most of whom are Somalis who have fled conflict and famine.
A Kenyan driver working for the Care charity was abducted from Dadaab on 21 September.
Last month, 56-year-old Briton Judith Tebbutt was kidnapped - and her husband David killed - by gunmen while the couple were on holiday in a remote Kenyan resort at Kiwayu.
On 1 October, a 66-year-old French woman was seized by an armed gang on Kenya's northern resort island of Manda and taken to Somalia.
The UK Foreign Office has advised against all but essential travel to the Kenyan coast near the Somali border.
Quelle: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15322864
Geschrieben von: Nite 6. Oct 2013, 14:07
ZITAT
Anti-Terror-Einsätze in Libyen und Somalia: Attacke aus dem Meer
Zwei Einsatzorte, fast 5000 Kilometer voneinander entfernt: US-Elitesoldaten haben in Somalia und Libyen Kommandoaktionen gegen mutmaßliche Terrorchefs durchgeführt. Einer der Angriffe gilt als Reaktion auf das blutige Geiseldrama in Nairobi vor zwei Wochen.
Washington - Ein spektakulärer Doppelschlag gegen mutmaßliche Top-Terroristen ist dem US-Militär nur zum Teil gelungen. Am frühen Freitag- und Samstagmorgen führten Elitekämpfer der US-Armee in Libyen und Somalia Kommandoaktionen durch. Dabei wurde ein gesuchter islamistischer Terrorführer festgenommen; ein anderer kam bei dem Einsatz offenbar davon.
[...]
Zwei Einsatzorte, fast 5000 Kilometer voneinander entfernt: US-Elitesoldaten haben in Somalia und Libyen Kommandoaktionen gegen mutmaßliche Terrorchefs durchgeführt. Einer der Angriffe gilt als Reaktion auf das blutige Geiseldrama in Nairobi vor zwei Wochen.
Washington - Ein spektakulärer Doppelschlag gegen mutmaßliche Top-Terroristen ist dem US-Militär nur zum Teil gelungen. Am frühen Freitag- und Samstagmorgen führten Elitekämpfer der US-Armee in Libyen und Somalia Kommandoaktionen durch. Dabei wurde ein gesuchter islamistischer Terrorführer festgenommen; ein anderer kam bei dem Einsatz offenbar davon.
[...]
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/somalia-und-libyen-us-militaer-greift-mutmassliche-terrorchefs-an-a-926308.html
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 30. Dec 2013, 22:40
Sorry für das Threadnecromancen, aber aus aktuellem Anlass:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Indian-Mujahideen-wanted-to-nuke-Surat-Yasin-Bhatkal-tells-cops/articleshow/28116663.cms
ZITAT
Bhatkal told the interrogators that he had asked his Pakistan-based boss, Riyaz Bhatkal, over phone whether the latter could arrange a small "nuclear bomb". According to him, Riyaz responded, "Anything can be arranged in Pakistan".
Solche Nachrichten lassen mich kreidebleich werden...
Geschrieben von: Nite 13. May 2014, 14:37
ZITAT
U.S. surveillance aircraft join hunt for kidnapped Nigerian girls
By Isaac Abrak
ABUJA Tue May 13, 2014 8:41am EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. surveillance aircraft were flying over remote areas of northeast Nigeria as part of an international hunt for about 200 girls kidnapped a month ago by Boko Haram militants who stormed their school.
Thousands of Nigerian troops have been sent to the region, while the United States and Britain also have teams on the ground to help with the search.
[...]
By Isaac Abrak
ABUJA Tue May 13, 2014 8:41am EDT
(Reuters) - U.S. surveillance aircraft were flying over remote areas of northeast Nigeria as part of an international hunt for about 200 girls kidnapped a month ago by Boko Haram militants who stormed their school.
Thousands of Nigerian troops have been sent to the region, while the United States and Britain also have teams on the ground to help with the search.
[...]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/13/us-nigeria-girls-idUSBREA4A0B620140513
Geschrieben von: Dave76 15. Jun 2014, 14:59
ZITAT(nytimes.com)
Can General Linder’s Special Operations Forces Stop the Next Terrorist Threat?
By ELIZA GRISWOLD - JUNE 13, 2014
On a searing morning this spring, Brig. Gen. James B. Linder leaned against the red-webbing seats of a C-130 as it flew over the Sahara. On his camouflaged knee, he balanced two dog-eared Moleskine notebooks and a map of Africa. Linder, who is in his early 50s, commands the United States Special Operations forces in Africa. He was on his way to visit a detachment of 12 Army Green Berets training with African troops to fight Al Qaeda and its affiliates in Niger. Through the plane’s scratched plexiglass portholes, dunes crested like waves in an ocean of sand, and hot blasts of wind buffeted the fuselage. An hour’s flight to the south, his team of Special Forces was deployed along the Nigerian border, where the militant group Boko Haram was targeting children in its bid to establish an Islamic state.
“My job is to look at Africa and see where the threat to the United States is,” Linder said as he unfolded his map and traced circles around the territories where he knew extremist groups were operating. “I see Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the Libyan problem set, Al Shabab in Somalia, Boko Haram in Nigeria, Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia, Benghazi and Darna.”
The United States Africa Command, known as Africom, was established in 2007 but stepped up its operations after the Arab Spring uprisings in 2011, when the overthrow of dictatorships from Tunisia to Libya to Egypt allowed militants and criminal networks to spread. In 2012, Al Qaeda and its affiliates seized control of Northern Mali and held a territory the size of Texas for nearly a year. With American support, French and Chadian forces managed to dislodge them, but they are still active in the region. In 2013, some 30 militants took over the Tigantourine gas facility in Algeria and killed 39 hostages. That same year, Somali militants raided the Westgate shopping center in Kenya’s capital, leaving 67 dead.
These attacks underscore how the threat to U.S. interests has shifted from Iraq and Afghanistan to Yemen and Africa. Linder arrived at Africom just after the storming of the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012. “Instability in Libya is causing a lot of the instability in West Africa,” he said. But it isn’t simply a matter of dots on a map. “I see the enemy, and then I look for connective tissue.” With his index finger, he traced how the conflicts in Libya and Syria are flooding Africa to the south with weapons and fighters. “Foreign fighters coming out of Syria are a serious problem,” he added. As terrorists move around and try to build networks between cells and like-minded organizations, Linder looks to break them apart.
“We have a real global threat,” Linder continued. “The problems in Africa are going to land on our doorstep if we’re not careful.” Linder opened one of his battered notebooks and riffled through a stack of graphs and statistics he clipped from The Economist and other publications. He pulled out an international flight schedule. “From Nigeria to the United States, there are eight direct flights a week.” Boko Haram hadn’t yet succeeded in wreaking much havoc beyond Nigeria’s borders, but had signaled their intent to do so. In July 2010, their leader, Abubakar Shekau, declared the group’s allegiance to Al Qaeda and said to America: “Jihad has just begun.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/magazine/can-general-linders-special-operations-forces-stop-the-next-terrorist-threat.html?src=recg&module=Ribbon&version=origin®ion=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Recommended&pgtype=article&_r=0
By ELIZA GRISWOLD - JUNE 13, 2014
On a searing morning this spring, Brig. Gen. James B. Linder leaned against the red-webbing seats of a C-130 as it flew over the Sahara. On his camouflaged knee, he balanced two dog-eared Moleskine notebooks and a map of Africa. Linder, who is in his early 50s, commands the United States Special Operations forces in Africa. He was on his way to visit a detachment of 12 Army Green Berets training with African troops to fight Al Qaeda and its affiliates in Niger. Through the plane’s scratched plexiglass portholes, dunes crested like waves in an ocean of sand, and hot blasts of wind buffeted the fuselage. An hour’s flight to the south, his team of Special Forces was deployed along the Nigerian border, where the militant group Boko Haram was targeting children in its bid to establish an Islamic state.
“My job is to look at Africa and see where the threat to the United States is,” Linder said as he unfolded his map and traced circles around the territories where he knew extremist groups were operating. “I see Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the Libyan problem set, Al Shabab in Somalia, Boko Haram in Nigeria, Ansar al-Sharia in Tunisia, Benghazi and Darna.”
The United States Africa Command, known as Africom, was established in 2007 but stepped up its operations after the Arab Spring uprisings in 2011, when the overthrow of dictatorships from Tunisia to Libya to Egypt allowed militants and criminal networks to spread. In 2012, Al Qaeda and its affiliates seized control of Northern Mali and held a territory the size of Texas for nearly a year. With American support, French and Chadian forces managed to dislodge them, but they are still active in the region. In 2013, some 30 militants took over the Tigantourine gas facility in Algeria and killed 39 hostages. That same year, Somali militants raided the Westgate shopping center in Kenya’s capital, leaving 67 dead.
These attacks underscore how the threat to U.S. interests has shifted from Iraq and Afghanistan to Yemen and Africa. Linder arrived at Africom just after the storming of the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012. “Instability in Libya is causing a lot of the instability in West Africa,” he said. But it isn’t simply a matter of dots on a map. “I see the enemy, and then I look for connective tissue.” With his index finger, he traced how the conflicts in Libya and Syria are flooding Africa to the south with weapons and fighters. “Foreign fighters coming out of Syria are a serious problem,” he added. As terrorists move around and try to build networks between cells and like-minded organizations, Linder looks to break them apart.
“We have a real global threat,” Linder continued. “The problems in Africa are going to land on our doorstep if we’re not careful.” Linder opened one of his battered notebooks and riffled through a stack of graphs and statistics he clipped from The Economist and other publications. He pulled out an international flight schedule. “From Nigeria to the United States, there are eight direct flights a week.” Boko Haram hadn’t yet succeeded in wreaking much havoc beyond Nigeria’s borders, but had signaled their intent to do so. In July 2010, their leader, Abubakar Shekau, declared the group’s allegiance to Al Qaeda and said to America: “Jihad has just begun.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/magazine/can-general-linders-special-operations-forces-stop-the-next-terrorist-threat.html?src=recg&module=Ribbon&version=origin®ion=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Recommended&pgtype=article&_r=0
Geschrieben von: Nite 16. Jun 2014, 11:01
ZITAT
Can General Linder’s Special Operations Forces Stop the Next Terrorist Threat?
Diese Frage muss man wohl mit 'Nein!' beantworten.
===Trennung===
ZITAT
Kenya attack: Mpeketoni near Lamu hit by 'Islamist' raid
At least 48 people have died after suspected Islamist militants attacked hotels and a police station in a Kenyan coastal town, officials say.
Witnesses in Mpeketoni said gun battles went on for several hours and reported seeing buildings set on fire.
The town is on the mainland near Lamu island, a well-known tourist resort.
Kenya has suffered numerous militant attacks since 2011 when its forces entered neighbouring Somalia to combat al-Shabab fighters.
This is the most deadly attack in Kenya since at least 67 people were killed during a siege at Nairobi's Westgate shopping centre last September.
The BBC's Yusuf Dayo in Nairobi says the attack started at 20:30 local time (17:30 GMT) on Sunday as locals were watching a football World Cup match on television.
Local residents told the BBC the gunmen hijacked a van and used it to attack various locations across Mpeketoni, which tourists pass through before crossing to Lamu.
Witnesses said gunmen, who had their faces covered, threw explosives into the local police station before entering and stealing weapons.
Kenya has been on high alert recently following warnings that al-Shabab was planning more attacks.
The US and UK have issued advisories to their nationals to keep away from the Kenyan coast.
Sunday's attack comes days after the UK government closed its consulate in the port city of Mombasa, citing heightened security threats.
line
Timeline of Somali raids in Kenya
September 2011: UK national Judith Tebbutt kidnapped and her husband David killed in raid on Kiwayu island, north of Lamu. She was released six months later by a pirate gang
October 2011: Kenya sends troops into Somalia following Tebbutt's kidnapping and cross-border raids by al-Shabab; Al-Shabab warns of revenge attacks
Since then, numerous attacks in Nairobi, Mombasa and north-eastern region of Kenya, inhabited by ethnic Somalis
September 2013: At least 67 people killed after al-Shabab militants take control of Westgate shopping centre in Nairobi
May 2014: UK issues travel advisory, warning of increased risk of terror attack in Nairobi and coastal areas - UK tourists evacuated
June 2014: At least 48 people killed in raid on Mpeketoni
Surveillance aircraft
District deputy commissioner Benson Maisori said several buildings in Mpeketoni had been burned down, including hotels, restaurants, banks and government offices, AFP news agency reports.
Bozo Jenje, a journalist in Mombasa, told the BBC that residents had reported seeing bodies scattered across roads in the town.
Local resident John Waweru, 28, said two of his brothers had been killed.
"The attackers came in around 9pm. I heard them shouting in Somali as they fired around. I lost two of my brothers, and I escaped. I ran and locked up myself in a house," he told AFP.
Local police chief Hamaton Mwaliko told Reuters news agency the gunmen had also raided the police station.
"We understand the attackers have already fled but our officers are pursuing them," Mr Mwaliko added.
Army spokesman Major Emmanuel Chirchir said surveillance aircraft had been dispatched to the region to help with the security operation.
Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta has summoned Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku and police chief David Kimaiyo to discuss the security situation, the BBC's Caroline Karobia reports from Nairobi.
Questions are being asked about how gunmen could raid a town for about five hours without an adequate response from the security forces, she says.
Nearby Lamu island is a popular tourist destination with ancient architecture that is listed as a Unesco World Heritage site.
UK national Judith Tebbutt was kidnapped by gunmen in September 2011 from the remote resort of Kiwayu, north-east of Lamu island.
The gang also shot dead her 58-year-old husband, David Tebbutt.
Mrs Tebbutt was released six months later after a ransom was paid to pirates holding her captive in Somalia.
At least 48 people have died after suspected Islamist militants attacked hotels and a police station in a Kenyan coastal town, officials say.
Witnesses in Mpeketoni said gun battles went on for several hours and reported seeing buildings set on fire.
The town is on the mainland near Lamu island, a well-known tourist resort.
Kenya has suffered numerous militant attacks since 2011 when its forces entered neighbouring Somalia to combat al-Shabab fighters.
This is the most deadly attack in Kenya since at least 67 people were killed during a siege at Nairobi's Westgate shopping centre last September.
The BBC's Yusuf Dayo in Nairobi says the attack started at 20:30 local time (17:30 GMT) on Sunday as locals were watching a football World Cup match on television.
Local residents told the BBC the gunmen hijacked a van and used it to attack various locations across Mpeketoni, which tourists pass through before crossing to Lamu.
Witnesses said gunmen, who had their faces covered, threw explosives into the local police station before entering and stealing weapons.
Kenya has been on high alert recently following warnings that al-Shabab was planning more attacks.
The US and UK have issued advisories to their nationals to keep away from the Kenyan coast.
Sunday's attack comes days after the UK government closed its consulate in the port city of Mombasa, citing heightened security threats.
line
Timeline of Somali raids in Kenya
September 2011: UK national Judith Tebbutt kidnapped and her husband David killed in raid on Kiwayu island, north of Lamu. She was released six months later by a pirate gang
October 2011: Kenya sends troops into Somalia following Tebbutt's kidnapping and cross-border raids by al-Shabab; Al-Shabab warns of revenge attacks
Since then, numerous attacks in Nairobi, Mombasa and north-eastern region of Kenya, inhabited by ethnic Somalis
September 2013: At least 67 people killed after al-Shabab militants take control of Westgate shopping centre in Nairobi
May 2014: UK issues travel advisory, warning of increased risk of terror attack in Nairobi and coastal areas - UK tourists evacuated
June 2014: At least 48 people killed in raid on Mpeketoni
Surveillance aircraft
District deputy commissioner Benson Maisori said several buildings in Mpeketoni had been burned down, including hotels, restaurants, banks and government offices, AFP news agency reports.
Bozo Jenje, a journalist in Mombasa, told the BBC that residents had reported seeing bodies scattered across roads in the town.
Local resident John Waweru, 28, said two of his brothers had been killed.
"The attackers came in around 9pm. I heard them shouting in Somali as they fired around. I lost two of my brothers, and I escaped. I ran and locked up myself in a house," he told AFP.
Local police chief Hamaton Mwaliko told Reuters news agency the gunmen had also raided the police station.
"We understand the attackers have already fled but our officers are pursuing them," Mr Mwaliko added.
Army spokesman Major Emmanuel Chirchir said surveillance aircraft had been dispatched to the region to help with the security operation.
Kenya's President Uhuru Kenyatta has summoned Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku and police chief David Kimaiyo to discuss the security situation, the BBC's Caroline Karobia reports from Nairobi.
Questions are being asked about how gunmen could raid a town for about five hours without an adequate response from the security forces, she says.
Nearby Lamu island is a popular tourist destination with ancient architecture that is listed as a Unesco World Heritage site.
UK national Judith Tebbutt was kidnapped by gunmen in September 2011 from the remote resort of Kiwayu, north-east of Lamu island.
The gang also shot dead her 58-year-old husband, David Tebbutt.
Mrs Tebbutt was released six months later after a ransom was paid to pirates holding her captive in Somalia.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-27862510
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 19. Jun 2014, 12:30
Ich wollte denselben Artikel aus der New York Times, den Dave76 vor vier Tagen gepostet hat, grade eben posten...
ZITAT(Nite @ 16. Jun 2014, 12:01)
ZITAT
Can General Linder’s Special Operations Forces Stop the Next Terrorist Threat?
Diese Frage muss man wohl mit 'Nein!' beantworten.
Warum? Ich seh das allerdings angesichts des "Erfolgs" vergangener (amerikanischer) Ausbildungsprogramme in Mali genauso
ZITAT
For the past three weeks, Green Berets, along with British, French and Canadian special operators, had been training 139 elite troops from Niger, Nigeria and Chad. [...] Morning after morning, under the pewter sun, the operators instructed the African soldiers in a mix of English, French and Arabic — “Yalla!” — on how to shoulder their weapons and aggressively approach an enemy camp. “Come on, ladies! There ain’t no dragons in there!” one Green Beret barked at a group of Chadians who didn’t understand him. Another said, “If you aim your weapon like that, you’re going to shoot your friends.” The air crackled with blank automatic rounds as African soldiers rushed over the ridge. Someone threw a grenade simulator in the wrong direction; flames shot out of the dry brush.
A dozen traditional leaders in a rainbow of flowing robes and fezzes approached Linder. [...] “Are you going to take us hostage?” a tribal leader of 65,000 people joked to Linder in French. The general waited as Melanie Zimmerman, his foreign-policy adviser, who was wearing combat boots she ordered from Amazon, translated. “Boko Haram is hiding here,” the elder went on. “No one wants them.” [...]
One evening, over a dinner of tamales and chocolate milk in the makeshift mess hall, a group of Nigerian commandos swapped stories about encounters with Boko Haram. They belonged to the Special Boat Service, which shares its name with the British version of the Navy SEALs. These men were trained by the British and the Americans to help safeguard oil in Nigeria’s watery south. Now, however, they were stationed in the country’s sere north to fight Boko Haram. Other than the occasional flash flood, there was no water, and their maritime tactics were useless. Bawa Muse, a rangy guy in a black V-neck T-shirt, boasted that he had survived about 20 gun battles with Boko Haram, including an ambush from which he ran away. In Diffa, he learned that the best tactic to use in an ambush was to fight through it. [...]
A dozen traditional leaders in a rainbow of flowing robes and fezzes approached Linder. [...] “Are you going to take us hostage?” a tribal leader of 65,000 people joked to Linder in French. The general waited as Melanie Zimmerman, his foreign-policy adviser, who was wearing combat boots she ordered from Amazon, translated. “Boko Haram is hiding here,” the elder went on. “No one wants them.” [...]
One evening, over a dinner of tamales and chocolate milk in the makeshift mess hall, a group of Nigerian commandos swapped stories about encounters with Boko Haram. They belonged to the Special Boat Service, which shares its name with the British version of the Navy SEALs. These men were trained by the British and the Americans to help safeguard oil in Nigeria’s watery south. Now, however, they were stationed in the country’s sere north to fight Boko Haram. Other than the occasional flash flood, there was no water, and their maritime tactics were useless. Bawa Muse, a rangy guy in a black V-neck T-shirt, boasted that he had survived about 20 gun battles with Boko Haram, including an ambush from which he ran away. In Diffa, he learned that the best tactic to use in an ambush was to fight through it. [...]
Wer in Westafrika operiert ohne fließend französisch zu sprechen, sollte seine interkulturellen Einsatzberater und nachrichtendienstlichen Analysten ersetzen. Und wir reden hier nicht von Bambara o.ä. Der Artikel sagt allerdings viel aus über die Leistungsfähigkeit afrikanischer "Spezialkräfte"
Geschrieben von: Nite 19. Jun 2014, 12:36
ZITAT(Freestyler @ 19. Jun 2014, 12:30)
Ich wollte denselben Artikel aus der New York Times, den Dave76 vor vier Tagen gepostet hat, grade eben posten...
Diese Frage muss man wohl mit 'Nein!' beantworten.
Warum? Ich seh das allerdings angesichts des "Erfolgs" vergangener (amerikanischer) Ausbildungsprogramme in Mali genauso
ZITAT(Nite @ 16. Jun 2014, 12:01)
ZITAT
Can General Linder’s Special Operations Forces Stop the Next Terrorist Threat?
Diese Frage muss man wohl mit 'Nein!' beantworten.
Warum? Ich seh das allerdings angesichts des "Erfolgs" vergangener (amerikanischer) Ausbildungsprogramme in Mali genauso
Wenn ich mir den nahen Osten gerade in diesem Moment anschaue so muss ich an sämtlichen "Erfolgen" im Kampf gegen den Terrorismus doch sehr zweifeln.
Geschrieben von: Almeran 1. Jul 2014, 10:28
Die Beiträge zum Kidnapping in Israel finden sich nun http://www.whq-forum.de/invisionboard/index.php?showtopic=25409&st=330&start=330
Geschrieben von: Dave76 26. Aug 2014, 13:46
Ich pack's mal hierein (wieso haben wir eigentlich kein TIA-Thread?):
http://news.yahoo.com/nigerian-soldiers-mutiny-over-lack-weapons-004359115.html
http://saharareporters.com/2014/08/25/close-500-nigerian-soldiers-flee-cameroon-avoid-confrontation-boko-haram
Geschrieben von: Dave76 7. Sep 2014, 16:06
ZITAT(www.janes.com)
RAF Tornados sent to West Africa
Tim Ripley, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
04 September 2014
RAF Panavia Tornado GR.4 combat aircraft have deployed to West Africa to join multinational operations against the radical Islamist group Boko Haram.
The aircraft from 2 (Army Co-operation) Squadron left RAF Marham in Norfolk during the last week of August and have since begun operating over Nigeria from the French airbase at N'Djamena in Chad, according to defence sources in London.
It is understood that the Tornados will be used in the intelligence, surveillance, targeting, acquisition and reconaissance (ISTAR) role using their Rafael Litening 3 advanced targeting pods or the Goodrich Raptor photographic reconnonaissance pod.
The UK government contributed the Tornados to help the hunt for the Nigerian schoolgirls who were abducted by Bokum Haram in May.
Tim Ripley, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
04 September 2014
RAF Panavia Tornado GR.4 combat aircraft have deployed to West Africa to join multinational operations against the radical Islamist group Boko Haram.
The aircraft from 2 (Army Co-operation) Squadron left RAF Marham in Norfolk during the last week of August and have since begun operating over Nigeria from the French airbase at N'Djamena in Chad, according to defence sources in London.
It is understood that the Tornados will be used in the intelligence, surveillance, targeting, acquisition and reconaissance (ISTAR) role using their Rafael Litening 3 advanced targeting pods or the Goodrich Raptor photographic reconnonaissance pod.
The UK government contributed the Tornados to help the hunt for the Nigerian schoolgirls who were abducted by Bokum Haram in May.
http://www.janes.com/article/42799/raf-tornados-sent-to-west-africa
Geschrieben von: Nite 9. Dec 2014, 01:30
Vermutungen und Hinweise in die Richtung gab es ja schon lange:
al Jazeera Special Investigation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjOdjdH8Uk&feature=youtu.be (youtube)
ZITAT
Published on Dec 7, 2014
For the first time members of Kenya’s counter-terrorism police admit to “eliminating” suspected Muslim radicals.
Speaking exclusively to Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit, officers from four units of Kenya’s counter-terrorism apparatus admitted the police assassinate suspects on government orders.
They claim that the order to assassinate is made by the National Security Council, a body chaired by President Uhuru Kenyatta.
The film examines how extra-judicial killings are seemingly becoming normalized, thirteen years after the so-called ‘War on Terror’ was declared. http://www.aljazeera.com/kenyadeathsq...
For the first time members of Kenya’s counter-terrorism police admit to “eliminating” suspected Muslim radicals.
Speaking exclusively to Al Jazeera’s Investigative Unit, officers from four units of Kenya’s counter-terrorism apparatus admitted the police assassinate suspects on government orders.
They claim that the order to assassinate is made by the National Security Council, a body chaired by President Uhuru Kenyatta.
The film examines how extra-judicial killings are seemingly becoming normalized, thirteen years after the so-called ‘War on Terror’ was declared. http://www.aljazeera.com/kenyadeathsq...
http://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/KenyaDeathSquads/
Geschrieben von: Almeran 11. Dec 2014, 20:28
Folterskandal verschoben.
- Almeran (Mod)
Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jan 2015, 17:51
ZITAT(defensenews.com)
AFRICOM Chief: 'Huge' Effort Needed To Fight Boko Haram
Agence France-Presse 7:21 p.m. EST January 27, 2015
WASHINGTON — Turning the tide against Boko Haram will require a "huge" international effort, a top US military commander warned on Tuesday, taking a swipe at Nigeria's response to the emboldened extremists.
Relations between the Nigerian and US militaries have been strained with Nigeria canceling training by US advisers of a unit that was supposed to fight the militants, who have captured towns and villages in the country's northeast and vowed to create a hardline Islamic state.
The conflict has left more than 13,000 people dead and one million homeless.
Gen. David Rodriguez, head of US Africa Command, said the Islamists' gains on the battlefield are cause for concern and "the number of people displaced is just staggering."
"I think it's going to take a huge international and multinational effort there to change a trajectory that continues to go in the wrong direction," Rodriguez said at an event organized by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
"The Nigerian leadership and Nigerian military are going to have to really improve their capacities to be able to handle that."
Rodriguez said the Nigerian military's response "was not working very effectively and actually in some places made it worse."
He added: "I hope that they let us help more and more."
Nigeria's ambassador to the United States, Adebowale Ibidapo Adefuye, complained in November that his country is "not satisfied" with US support for the struggle against Boko Haram and that Washington has blocked the sale of some military hardware over human rights concerns.
In a visit Sunday to Lagos, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Washington was "prepared to do more" to help Nigeria counter Boko Haram.
Nigeria has the largest army in west Africa but has come under criticism at home and abroad for failing to stop the advance of Boko Haram.
The United States was working with Nigeria to build a comprehensive strategy "across the board, not just military," that encompassed education, economic development and health care to address the needs of the population in the north, the four-star general said.
Another "big focus" was to bolster the country's intelligence gathering, added Rodriguez.
Agence France-Presse 7:21 p.m. EST January 27, 2015
WASHINGTON — Turning the tide against Boko Haram will require a "huge" international effort, a top US military commander warned on Tuesday, taking a swipe at Nigeria's response to the emboldened extremists.
Relations between the Nigerian and US militaries have been strained with Nigeria canceling training by US advisers of a unit that was supposed to fight the militants, who have captured towns and villages in the country's northeast and vowed to create a hardline Islamic state.
The conflict has left more than 13,000 people dead and one million homeless.
Gen. David Rodriguez, head of US Africa Command, said the Islamists' gains on the battlefield are cause for concern and "the number of people displaced is just staggering."
"I think it's going to take a huge international and multinational effort there to change a trajectory that continues to go in the wrong direction," Rodriguez said at an event organized by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
"The Nigerian leadership and Nigerian military are going to have to really improve their capacities to be able to handle that."
Rodriguez said the Nigerian military's response "was not working very effectively and actually in some places made it worse."
He added: "I hope that they let us help more and more."
Nigeria's ambassador to the United States, Adebowale Ibidapo Adefuye, complained in November that his country is "not satisfied" with US support for the struggle against Boko Haram and that Washington has blocked the sale of some military hardware over human rights concerns.
In a visit Sunday to Lagos, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Washington was "prepared to do more" to help Nigeria counter Boko Haram.
Nigeria has the largest army in west Africa but has come under criticism at home and abroad for failing to stop the advance of Boko Haram.
The United States was working with Nigeria to build a comprehensive strategy "across the board, not just military," that encompassed education, economic development and health care to address the needs of the population in the north, the four-star general said.
Another "big focus" was to bolster the country's intelligence gathering, added Rodriguez.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/mideast-africa/2015/01/27/africom-chief-huge-effort-needed-fight-boko-haram/22434941/
ZITAT(saharareporters.com)
[Nigerian] Army Officers Write Open Letter To Jonathan, Urge Obama, Ban-ki Moon To Intervene In Anti-Terror War
The officers who authored the letter said they were initially reluctant to air their grievances in the open in order not to boost the morale of insurgents, but added that troops fighting Boko Haram, a terrorist Islamist sect that has seized a significant swathe of territory in Nigeria’s northeast zone, have been equipped poorly. In addition, the officers accused Mr. Jonathan of condoning the looting of funds meant for the war against the insurgents. They specifically alleged that “Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha” was a major looter of security funds. In addition, the letter stated that it was well known that Mr. Jonathan’s ADC had illicitly acquired stupendous wealth that has enabled him to buy up expensive homes in Nigeria and abroad.
by Sahara Reporters Jan 30, 2015
A group of Nigerian Army officers involved in operations against Islamist insurgents tagged “Operation Zaman Lafiya” have written an open letter detailing a series of problems bedeviling their military operations. In addition, the officers called on President Goodluck Jonathan to investigate massive looting of funds meant for military operations. They also urged President Barack Obama of the United States and United Nations Secretary General Banki Moon to put pressure on Mr. Jonathan to engage in fighting a more focused war on Islamist terror.
SaharaReporters obtained the open letter titled “State of Operations In The North East As Observed By Some Concerned Officers.” The open letter began, “We the concerned officers participating in the North East Operation Zaman Lafiya do resolve to write this letter for the following reasons: a. to save our country Nigeria; b. to stop the bloodshed of innocent officers, soldiers and civilians in the North East; c. to appeal to the President of the United State[s] of America Mr. Barack Obama, United Nation Secretary General Mr. Banki Moon and other world leaders to as quickly as important intervene and urge President Goodluck Jonathan to do the needful in addressing the issue of insurgency in Nigeria especially in the North East.”
The officers who authored the letter said they were initially reluctant to air their grievances in the open in order not to boost the morale of insurgents, but added that troops fighting Boko Haram, a terrorist Islamist sect that has seized a significant swathe of territory in Nigeria’s northeast zone, have been equipped poorly. In addition, the officers accused Mr. Jonathan of condoning the looting of funds meant for the war against the insurgents. They specifically alleged that “Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha” was a major looter of security funds. In addition, the letter stated that it was well known that Mr. Jonathan’s ADC had illicitly acquired stupendous wealth that has enabled him to buy up expensive homes in Nigeria and abroad.
The letter further alleged that top military officials had intimidated an officer who wrote a letter to the president to deny authorship of the document which exposed massive corruption in the anti-terror operations.
Below is the full text of the letter:
STATE OF OPERATIONS IN THE NORTH EAST AS OBSERVED BY SOME CONCERNED OFFICERS
1. We the concerned officers participating in the North East Operation Zaman Lafiya do resolve to write this letter for the following reasons:
a. To save our country Nigeria.
b. To stop the bloodshed of innocent officers, soldiers and civilians in the North East.
c. To appeal to the president of the United State of America Mr. Barrack Obama, United Nation Secretary General Mr. Banki Moon and other world leaders to as quickly as important to intervene and urge President Goodluck Jonathan to do the needful in addressing the issue of insurgency in Nigeria especially in the North East.
2. As members of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, it is our responsibility to defend our country Nigeria which we are ever ready to do so as the call arises. But firstly, the civil authority has the first responsibility to equip us effectively to enable us to carry out such task. This is common practice all over the world. As professional officers and soldiers, we did not want to go public with details of our frustrations concerning this operation because doing so will boast the moral[e] of our enemy. But the persistent neglect of our plight made us to do otherwise.
3. It is well known fact that of recent, a commanding officer from this theater of operation wrote a letter to our President intimating him of a few out of numerous problems affecting us in this operation which we believe Mr. President will address. It appears Mr. President has chosen to ignore it because none of his relations are among us. In this 21st century, how can an accused [be] a judge of his own case? That letter clearly exposed the rot within the military authorities concerning this operation. This is because, the Army authority that was accused of poor administration in that letter, set up a kangaroo investigation that harass[ed], intimidate[d], and forced the officer to deny the authorship of the letter.
4. We authoritatively learned that, the Army authority succeeded in forcing the officer to deny the letter through the Provost Marshal (Army) who happen[ed] to be of the same tribe with the officer concern[ed]. For President Goodluck Jonathan to ignore such kind of allegation made us to believe the rumor going round that he has a hand or knowledge in the so-called Boko Haram. We are also aware of how the funds meant for these operations are being looted through the office of the Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha. Despite our strong [belief] in democracy, we condemn a democratic government that condones corruption, especially in its military. The President is reported to always turn a blind eye to issues of corruption. For instance, the ADC to Mr.President is presently one of the richest officers in the army. He owns properties in choice places all over the country and even abroad. We are going to make public details of his wealth and assets at the appropriate time.
5. We are appealing to all well meaning Nigerians and leaders of International Community to please speak out with loud voice in [order] to make President Jonathan to constitute an independent high-powered committee to investigate the content of that letter written to him by the commanding officer. Should this request be ignored, the resultant consequence could only be imagined.
6. We stand bold to state that we are speaking the minds of all the officers and soldiers in Operation Zaman Lafiya.
Concerned Officers and Soldiers of Operation Zaman Lafiya
The officers who authored the letter said they were initially reluctant to air their grievances in the open in order not to boost the morale of insurgents, but added that troops fighting Boko Haram, a terrorist Islamist sect that has seized a significant swathe of territory in Nigeria’s northeast zone, have been equipped poorly. In addition, the officers accused Mr. Jonathan of condoning the looting of funds meant for the war against the insurgents. They specifically alleged that “Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha” was a major looter of security funds. In addition, the letter stated that it was well known that Mr. Jonathan’s ADC had illicitly acquired stupendous wealth that has enabled him to buy up expensive homes in Nigeria and abroad.
by Sahara Reporters Jan 30, 2015
A group of Nigerian Army officers involved in operations against Islamist insurgents tagged “Operation Zaman Lafiya” have written an open letter detailing a series of problems bedeviling their military operations. In addition, the officers called on President Goodluck Jonathan to investigate massive looting of funds meant for military operations. They also urged President Barack Obama of the United States and United Nations Secretary General Banki Moon to put pressure on Mr. Jonathan to engage in fighting a more focused war on Islamist terror.
SaharaReporters obtained the open letter titled “State of Operations In The North East As Observed By Some Concerned Officers.” The open letter began, “We the concerned officers participating in the North East Operation Zaman Lafiya do resolve to write this letter for the following reasons: a. to save our country Nigeria; b. to stop the bloodshed of innocent officers, soldiers and civilians in the North East; c. to appeal to the President of the United State[s] of America Mr. Barack Obama, United Nation Secretary General Mr. Banki Moon and other world leaders to as quickly as important intervene and urge President Goodluck Jonathan to do the needful in addressing the issue of insurgency in Nigeria especially in the North East.”
The officers who authored the letter said they were initially reluctant to air their grievances in the open in order not to boost the morale of insurgents, but added that troops fighting Boko Haram, a terrorist Islamist sect that has seized a significant swathe of territory in Nigeria’s northeast zone, have been equipped poorly. In addition, the officers accused Mr. Jonathan of condoning the looting of funds meant for the war against the insurgents. They specifically alleged that “Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha” was a major looter of security funds. In addition, the letter stated that it was well known that Mr. Jonathan’s ADC had illicitly acquired stupendous wealth that has enabled him to buy up expensive homes in Nigeria and abroad.
The letter further alleged that top military officials had intimidated an officer who wrote a letter to the president to deny authorship of the document which exposed massive corruption in the anti-terror operations.
Below is the full text of the letter:
STATE OF OPERATIONS IN THE NORTH EAST AS OBSERVED BY SOME CONCERNED OFFICERS
1. We the concerned officers participating in the North East Operation Zaman Lafiya do resolve to write this letter for the following reasons:
a. To save our country Nigeria.
b. To stop the bloodshed of innocent officers, soldiers and civilians in the North East.
c. To appeal to the president of the United State of America Mr. Barrack Obama, United Nation Secretary General Mr. Banki Moon and other world leaders to as quickly as important to intervene and urge President Goodluck Jonathan to do the needful in addressing the issue of insurgency in Nigeria especially in the North East.
2. As members of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, it is our responsibility to defend our country Nigeria which we are ever ready to do so as the call arises. But firstly, the civil authority has the first responsibility to equip us effectively to enable us to carry out such task. This is common practice all over the world. As professional officers and soldiers, we did not want to go public with details of our frustrations concerning this operation because doing so will boast the moral[e] of our enemy. But the persistent neglect of our plight made us to do otherwise.
3. It is well known fact that of recent, a commanding officer from this theater of operation wrote a letter to our President intimating him of a few out of numerous problems affecting us in this operation which we believe Mr. President will address. It appears Mr. President has chosen to ignore it because none of his relations are among us. In this 21st century, how can an accused [be] a judge of his own case? That letter clearly exposed the rot within the military authorities concerning this operation. This is because, the Army authority that was accused of poor administration in that letter, set up a kangaroo investigation that harass[ed], intimidate[d], and forced the officer to deny the authorship of the letter.
4. We authoritatively learned that, the Army authority succeeded in forcing the officer to deny the letter through the Provost Marshal (Army) who happen[ed] to be of the same tribe with the officer concern[ed]. For President Goodluck Jonathan to ignore such kind of allegation made us to believe the rumor going round that he has a hand or knowledge in the so-called Boko Haram. We are also aware of how the funds meant for these operations are being looted through the office of the Chief of Training and Operations, Major General J.A.H. Ewansiha. Despite our strong [belief] in democracy, we condemn a democratic government that condones corruption, especially in its military. The President is reported to always turn a blind eye to issues of corruption. For instance, the ADC to Mr.President is presently one of the richest officers in the army. He owns properties in choice places all over the country and even abroad. We are going to make public details of his wealth and assets at the appropriate time.
5. We are appealing to all well meaning Nigerians and leaders of International Community to please speak out with loud voice in [order] to make President Jonathan to constitute an independent high-powered committee to investigate the content of that letter written to him by the commanding officer. Should this request be ignored, the resultant consequence could only be imagined.
6. We stand bold to state that we are speaking the minds of all the officers and soldiers in Operation Zaman Lafiya.
Concerned Officers and Soldiers of Operation Zaman Lafiya
http://saharareporters.com/2015/01/30/army-officers-write-open-letter-jonathan-urge-obama-ban-ki-moon-intervene-anti-terror-war
Geschrieben von: Dave76 31. Jan 2015, 18:14
ZITAT
Boko Haram
Gefechte mit Boko Haram in Kamerun
Soldaten des Tschad töteten bei Kämpfen 123 Islamisten der Boko Haram. Die Afrikanische Union will künftig dabei helfen und wird eine multinationale Truppe schicken.
31. Januar 2015 16:00 Uhr
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-01/boko-haram-kamerun-tote
Gefechte mit Boko Haram in Kamerun
Soldaten des Tschad töteten bei Kämpfen 123 Islamisten der Boko Haram. Die Afrikanische Union will künftig dabei helfen und wird eine multinationale Truppe schicken.
31. Januar 2015 16:00 Uhr
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2015-01/boko-haram-kamerun-tote
Geschrieben von: Dave76 19. Mar 2015, 17:28
ZITAT
Pentagon: Drone killed mastermind of Kenya mall attack
Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY March 19, 2015
The Department of Defense confirmed a drone strike killed Adan Garar, an al-Shabab member linked to the Westgate Mall massacre in Nairobi, Kenya that killed 67 people in 2013.
The mastermind behind the 2013 attack at the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya, that left 67 people dead has died after an attack by a U.S. drone, the Department of Defense said Wednesday.
The incident happened on March 12 in the area of Diinsoor, Somalia, according to a statement from the agency.
U.S. forces using a drone struck a vehicle being driven by Adan Garar, a member of the intelligence and security wing of al-Shabab, a group linked to al-Qaeda, the statement said.
"The attack was a success and resulted in the death of Garar," according to the statement.
Members of al-Shabab shot up the mall with AK-7 rifles and grenades because of Kenya's attempts to help the government of Somalia defeat the militant organization, the group has said. Along with those who died, more than 200 people were hurt in the incident at the luxury shopping center.
The Pentagon said Garar was in charge of coordinating external operations for al-Shabab, a job that included targeting Americans as well as Western interests.
Melanie Eversley, USA TODAY March 19, 2015
The Department of Defense confirmed a drone strike killed Adan Garar, an al-Shabab member linked to the Westgate Mall massacre in Nairobi, Kenya that killed 67 people in 2013.
The mastermind behind the 2013 attack at the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya, that left 67 people dead has died after an attack by a U.S. drone, the Department of Defense said Wednesday.
The incident happened on March 12 in the area of Diinsoor, Somalia, according to a statement from the agency.
U.S. forces using a drone struck a vehicle being driven by Adan Garar, a member of the intelligence and security wing of al-Shabab, a group linked to al-Qaeda, the statement said.
"The attack was a success and resulted in the death of Garar," according to the statement.
Members of al-Shabab shot up the mall with AK-7 rifles and grenades because of Kenya's attempts to help the government of Somalia defeat the militant organization, the group has said. Along with those who died, more than 200 people were hurt in the incident at the luxury shopping center.
The Pentagon said Garar was in charge of coordinating external operations for al-Shabab, a job that included targeting Americans as well as Western interests.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/03/19/drone-westgate-mall-attack-garar/25001451/
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128396
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 21. Mar 2015, 21:50
ZITAT(Adam Nossiter @ 20 Mar. 2015)
Nigerian Army Noticeably Absent in Town Taken From Boko Haram
Boko Haram’s black flag is everywhere in the town of Damasak, deep in Islamist-held territory in northern Nigeria: It is painted on former administrative buildings and schools, and on the side of abandoned gas stations.
The other unmistakable sign of the Islamist militants’ recent presence is that very few residents remain in a once-thriving town of 200,000. They have either fled to the state capital, Maiduguri, or been killed by Boko Haram. Every looted and battered storefront yawns open to the dusty roadside.
Mostly, the only sound in the hot, still air is from military vehicles, carrying soldiers from the neighboring countries of Chad and Niger as they make their way through the wreckage of the deadly five-month Islamist occupation of this Nigerian town. From time to time, the Chadian soldiers ululate to celebrate their victory against the militants in a fierce firefight that stretched into last week.
The Chadians ushered a small group of journalists around for a brief look last week, offering a rare glimpse into the group’s northern Nigerian stronghold, and into the dimensions, and difficulties, of a cross-border, four-nation fight against the Islamists.
Even as the Nigerian government, with a national election looming, insists that its forces have chased Boko Haram fighters out of much of their northern territory, the deserted streets and all-foreign force here paint a different picture. Hundreds of thousands of Nigerians still cannot return home to towns that have been, nominally at least, freed from Boko Haram.
But the foreign soldiers here say they do not want to occupy somebody else’s country, and worry that the Islamist fighters will simply return if they leave and the Nigerians have not arrived to take over. [...]
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/world/africa/nigerian-army-noticeably-absent-in-town-taken-from-boko-haram.html
Boko Haram’s black flag is everywhere in the town of Damasak, deep in Islamist-held territory in northern Nigeria: It is painted on former administrative buildings and schools, and on the side of abandoned gas stations.
The other unmistakable sign of the Islamist militants’ recent presence is that very few residents remain in a once-thriving town of 200,000. They have either fled to the state capital, Maiduguri, or been killed by Boko Haram. Every looted and battered storefront yawns open to the dusty roadside.
Mostly, the only sound in the hot, still air is from military vehicles, carrying soldiers from the neighboring countries of Chad and Niger as they make their way through the wreckage of the deadly five-month Islamist occupation of this Nigerian town. From time to time, the Chadian soldiers ululate to celebrate their victory against the militants in a fierce firefight that stretched into last week.
The Chadians ushered a small group of journalists around for a brief look last week, offering a rare glimpse into the group’s northern Nigerian stronghold, and into the dimensions, and difficulties, of a cross-border, four-nation fight against the Islamists.
Even as the Nigerian government, with a national election looming, insists that its forces have chased Boko Haram fighters out of much of their northern territory, the deserted streets and all-foreign force here paint a different picture. Hundreds of thousands of Nigerians still cannot return home to towns that have been, nominally at least, freed from Boko Haram.
But the foreign soldiers here say they do not want to occupy somebody else’s country, and worry that the Islamist fighters will simply return if they leave and the Nigerians have not arrived to take over. [...]
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/world/africa/nigerian-army-noticeably-absent-in-town-taken-from-boko-haram.html
ZITAT
Corruption blights Nigerian army's fight against rebels
Despite Nigeria spending $5.8bn on security last year, army is short of guns and ammunition in fight against Boko Haram. Once the best military in West Africa, Nigeria's army is now struggling to fend off the threat of Boko Haram.
From 2001 to 2012 the military received $19bn. Yearly, that is only about one percent of GDP, even falling to half a percent in 2006. On average, nations typically spend around two percent of GDP. But in 2014, Nigeria spent $5.8bn on security, a quarter of the total budget. Of the $5.8bn, roughly a third went to the Defence Ministry, that is $830m for the army, $440m for the navy, and $460n for the air force. Another $400m was spent on deployments and missions.
However, much of that money has allegedly fuelled corruption or been siphoned off to enrich regional governments. This has led to an under resourced military, short of guns and ammunition. It has allowed Boko Haram to extend its influence, threatening national elections which last month were postponed for six weeks so the army could take on the armed group. Meanwhile, in the prosperous oil-rich Niger Delta, it is estimated that over a five year period to 2008, oil theft and attacks by armed groups have cost the country about $100bn. [...]
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2015/03/corruption-blights-nigerian-army-fight-rebels-150320160800536.html
Despite Nigeria spending $5.8bn on security last year, army is short of guns and ammunition in fight against Boko Haram. Once the best military in West Africa, Nigeria's army is now struggling to fend off the threat of Boko Haram.
From 2001 to 2012 the military received $19bn. Yearly, that is only about one percent of GDP, even falling to half a percent in 2006. On average, nations typically spend around two percent of GDP. But in 2014, Nigeria spent $5.8bn on security, a quarter of the total budget. Of the $5.8bn, roughly a third went to the Defence Ministry, that is $830m for the army, $440m for the navy, and $460n for the air force. Another $400m was spent on deployments and missions.
However, much of that money has allegedly fuelled corruption or been siphoned off to enrich regional governments. This has led to an under resourced military, short of guns and ammunition. It has allowed Boko Haram to extend its influence, threatening national elections which last month were postponed for six weeks so the army could take on the armed group. Meanwhile, in the prosperous oil-rich Niger Delta, it is estimated that over a five year period to 2008, oil theft and attacks by armed groups have cost the country about $100bn. [...]
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2015/03/corruption-blights-nigerian-army-fight-rebels-150320160800536.html
Geschrieben von: Hummingbird 15. Apr 2015, 00:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kimbo5c0Ak
ZITAT
Veröffentlicht am 13.04.2015
Since 2009, the militant Islamist group known as Boko Haram has wreaked havoc in northern Nigeria. Instilling terror through bombings, abductions, and beheadings, Boko Haram is fighting to create an Islamic state in the most populous country in Africa.
VICE News traveled to Nigeria to embed with the country's army as it ramped up its fight against Boko Haram, whose rise has caused a state of emergency. As the only journalists on the front line in northern Nigeria, we witnessed the beginning of the largest military insurgency to date.
Since 2009, the militant Islamist group known as Boko Haram has wreaked havoc in northern Nigeria. Instilling terror through bombings, abductions, and beheadings, Boko Haram is fighting to create an Islamic state in the most populous country in Africa.
VICE News traveled to Nigeria to embed with the country's army as it ramped up its fight against Boko Haram, whose rise has caused a state of emergency. As the only journalists on the front line in northern Nigeria, we witnessed the beginning of the largest military insurgency to date.
Geschrieben von: Nite 26. Jun 2015, 17:06
ZITAT
Somalia attack: Al-Shabab 'kills 30' at AU military base
At least 30 people have been killed after gunmen attacked an African Union military base in southern Somalia, witnesses say.
A suicide car bomber drove into the main gates of the base in Leego, along the main road connecting the capital, Mogadishu and the city of Baidoa.
The militant Islamist group al-Shabab says its fighters have taken control of the base but this is not confirmed.
[...]
At least 30 people have been killed after gunmen attacked an African Union military base in southern Somalia, witnesses say.
A suicide car bomber drove into the main gates of the base in Leego, along the main road connecting the capital, Mogadishu and the city of Baidoa.
The militant Islamist group al-Shabab says its fighters have taken control of the base but this is not confirmed.
[...]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33282778
Geschrieben von: Dave76 28. Jun 2015, 10:59
ZITAT(Nite @ 26. Jun 2015, 18:06)
ZITAT
Somalia attack: Al-Shabab 'kills 30' at AU military base
At least 30 people have been killed after gunmen attacked an African Union military base in southern Somalia, witnesses say.
A suicide car bomber drove into the main gates of the base in Leego, along the main road connecting the capital, Mogadishu and the city of Baidoa.
The militant Islamist group al-Shabab says its fighters have taken control of the base but this is not confirmed.
[...]
At least 30 people have been killed after gunmen attacked an African Union military base in southern Somalia, witnesses say.
A suicide car bomber drove into the main gates of the base in Leego, along the main road connecting the capital, Mogadishu and the city of Baidoa.
The militant Islamist group al-Shabab says its fighters have taken control of the base but this is not confirmed.
[...]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33282778
Hier noch mal Genaueres zum Angriff auf die AMISOM-Basis vom Long War Journal:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/al-shabaab-assaults-african-union-base.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LongWarJournalSiteWide+%28The+Long+War+Journal+%28Site-Wide%29%29
Letzte Woche gab es schon diesen Angriff auf äthiopische AMISOM-Truppen:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/al-shabaab-claims-to-kill-dozens-of-ethiopian-troops-in-southern-somalia.php
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/shabaab-releases-images-from-the-ambush-of-ethiopian-troops.php
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 28. Jun 2015, 11:19
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 28. Jun 2015, 11:59)
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Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Aug 2015, 15:30
ZITAT(The Long War Journal)
US drones target AQAP near eastern stronghold in Yemen
By Bill Roggio | August 12, 2015
The US killed five al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula fighters in a drone strike near a city in southeastern Yemen where the terror organization openly rules, and where the group’s previous emir was killed two months ago.
The strike, which was carried out by remotely piloted Predators or Reapers, took place today on a road outside of Mukallah, the provincial capital of Hadramout. Several missiles slammed into a vehicle, killing at least five fighters, http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/12/us-yemen-security-idUSKCN0QH1AT20150812.
The identities of those targeted were not disclosed. No senior terrorist leaders or operatives are reported to have been killed. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) did not release an official statement naming those killed in the attack.
The US is known to conduct what are called “signature strikes” against AQAP in Yemen. These strikes are not based on specific intelligence that identifies the target, but are based on a pattern of intelligence that indicates a senior leader or operative may be present. AQAP’s founder and last emir, http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/aqap-confirms-death-of-senior-leader.php.
The US has also targeted AQAP’s military machine as well as its leadership nodes. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/12/us-yemen-security-idUSKCN0QH1AT20150812, a group of local AQAP commanders as well as a container packed with weapons were targeted and destroyed. This strike contradicted http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf that claimed the drone program will target only those AQAP operatives who “present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States.”
The US drone campaign in Yemen has centered on Hadramout province since AQAP overran Mukallah in April of this year. Of the 11 strikes that have been recorded in Yemen since the beginning of April, nine have occurred in Hadramout.
Hadramout is the ancestral home of Osama bin Laden, and the province has become an AQAP bastion over the past several years. The jihadist organization regrouped in Hadramout and other provinces after losing control of major cities in Abyan and Shabwa provinces to government forces starting in late spring 2012.
The US appears to have obtained good intelligence on AQAP’s network in Mukallah. In addition to Wuhayshi, two other senior AQAP leaders and ideologues, http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/04/aqap-announces-death-of-sharia-official-in-us-drone-strike.php and http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/al-qaedas-deputy-general-manager-killed-in-us-drone-strike.php, were killed in air raids in the city since April.
The drone campaign in Yemen has intensified since Wuhayshi was killed in mid-June. Prior to his death, the US launched seven attacks against AQAP in five months. Several low and mid-level local AQAP leaders are reported to have been killed in the operations. Since his death, the US has launched seven strikes in two months.
By Bill Roggio | August 12, 2015
The US killed five al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula fighters in a drone strike near a city in southeastern Yemen where the terror organization openly rules, and where the group’s previous emir was killed two months ago.
The strike, which was carried out by remotely piloted Predators or Reapers, took place today on a road outside of Mukallah, the provincial capital of Hadramout. Several missiles slammed into a vehicle, killing at least five fighters, http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/12/us-yemen-security-idUSKCN0QH1AT20150812.
The identities of those targeted were not disclosed. No senior terrorist leaders or operatives are reported to have been killed. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) did not release an official statement naming those killed in the attack.
The US is known to conduct what are called “signature strikes” against AQAP in Yemen. These strikes are not based on specific intelligence that identifies the target, but are based on a pattern of intelligence that indicates a senior leader or operative may be present. AQAP’s founder and last emir, http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/06/aqap-confirms-death-of-senior-leader.php.
The US has also targeted AQAP’s military machine as well as its leadership nodes. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/12/us-yemen-security-idUSKCN0QH1AT20150812, a group of local AQAP commanders as well as a container packed with weapons were targeted and destroyed. This strike contradicted http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/020413_DOJ_White_Paper.pdf that claimed the drone program will target only those AQAP operatives who “present an ‘imminent’ threat of violent attack against the United States.”
The US drone campaign in Yemen has centered on Hadramout province since AQAP overran Mukallah in April of this year. Of the 11 strikes that have been recorded in Yemen since the beginning of April, nine have occurred in Hadramout.
Hadramout is the ancestral home of Osama bin Laden, and the province has become an AQAP bastion over the past several years. The jihadist organization regrouped in Hadramout and other provinces after losing control of major cities in Abyan and Shabwa provinces to government forces starting in late spring 2012.
The US appears to have obtained good intelligence on AQAP’s network in Mukallah. In addition to Wuhayshi, two other senior AQAP leaders and ideologues, http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/04/aqap-announces-death-of-sharia-official-in-us-drone-strike.php and http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/al-qaedas-deputy-general-manager-killed-in-us-drone-strike.php, were killed in air raids in the city since April.
The drone campaign in Yemen has intensified since Wuhayshi was killed in mid-June. Prior to his death, the US launched seven attacks against AQAP in five months. Several low and mid-level local AQAP leaders are reported to have been killed in the operations. Since his death, the US has launched seven strikes in two months.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/08/us-drones-target-aqap-near-eastern-stronghold-in-yemen.php
Geschrieben von: Dave76 2. Sep 2015, 08:09
ZITAT
Angriff auf Basis der Afrikanischen Union
Viele Tote bei Anschlag in Somalia
Stand: 01.09.2015 17:23 Uhr
In Somalia hat die al-Shabaab-Miliz einen Stützpunkt der Afrikanischen Union angegriffen. Dabei sollen mindestens 50 ugandische Soldaten getötet worden sein. Die AU erklärte, sie habe die Kontrolle über die Basis wiedergewonnen.
[...]
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/somalia-angriff-auf-afrikanische-union-101.html
Viele Tote bei Anschlag in Somalia
Stand: 01.09.2015 17:23 Uhr
In Somalia hat die al-Shabaab-Miliz einen Stützpunkt der Afrikanischen Union angegriffen. Dabei sollen mindestens 50 ugandische Soldaten getötet worden sein. Die AU erklärte, sie habe die Kontrolle über die Basis wiedergewonnen.
[...]
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/somalia-angriff-auf-afrikanische-union-101.html
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 27. Sep 2015, 10:43
Eeben Barlow schreibt ein Buch zu "seinen Erfahrungen" in Afrika:
ZITAT
Composite Warfare: The Conduct of Successful Ground Forces Operations in Africa
As a continent, Africa presents her armies with a vast, dynamic and multidimensional operating environment. It has numerous complex and diverse ethnic, religious, cultural and tribal interests and loyalties, along with many multifaceted threat-drivers coupled to varied and infrastructure-poor terrain plus vast climatic variations. The continent is, furthermore, characterized by numerous half-won conflicts and wars fought by incorrectly structured, inadequately trained and ill-equipped armies. For many reasons, these forces have difficulty adapting to the complex, demanding and rapidly changing environments they do battle in. Similarly, the armies have difficulty in decisively defeating the various threats they face. Many of these problems stem from the fact that numerous modern-day African armies are merely clones of the armies established by their once-colonial masters, their Cold War allies or their new international allies. Many of the principles and tactics, techniques and procedures they were - and still are - being taught relate to fighting in Europe and not in Africa. Some of these concepts are not even relevant to Africa.
This book is intended as a guide and textbook for African soldiers and scholars who wish to understand the development of hostilities, strategy, operational design, doctrine and tactics. It also illustrates the importance of nonpartisanship and the mission and role of the armed forces. Officers, NCOs and their subordinates need to, furthermore, understand their role in defending and protecting the government and the people they serve. They additionally need to know how to successfully accomplish their numerous missions with aggression, audacity, boldness, speed and surprise. The book provides the reader with valuable information relating to conventional and unconventional maneuver. It also discusses how African armies can, with structured and balanced forces, achieve strategic, operational and tactical success. It covers the role of government along with operations related to war, operations other than war and intelligence operations and how these operations, operating in a coordinated and unified manner, can secure and strengthen a government.
Composite Warfare draws on the author's experiences and lessons in Central, Southern, East, West and North Africa where he has served numerous African governments as a politico-military strategist, division commander, division adviser, battalion commander and special operations commander.
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog.blogspot.de/2015/07/composite-warfare-conduct-of-successful.html
http://www.amazon.com/Composite-Warfare-Conduct-Successful-Operations/dp/1910294993
As a continent, Africa presents her armies with a vast, dynamic and multidimensional operating environment. It has numerous complex and diverse ethnic, religious, cultural and tribal interests and loyalties, along with many multifaceted threat-drivers coupled to varied and infrastructure-poor terrain plus vast climatic variations. The continent is, furthermore, characterized by numerous half-won conflicts and wars fought by incorrectly structured, inadequately trained and ill-equipped armies. For many reasons, these forces have difficulty adapting to the complex, demanding and rapidly changing environments they do battle in. Similarly, the armies have difficulty in decisively defeating the various threats they face. Many of these problems stem from the fact that numerous modern-day African armies are merely clones of the armies established by their once-colonial masters, their Cold War allies or their new international allies. Many of the principles and tactics, techniques and procedures they were - and still are - being taught relate to fighting in Europe and not in Africa. Some of these concepts are not even relevant to Africa.
This book is intended as a guide and textbook for African soldiers and scholars who wish to understand the development of hostilities, strategy, operational design, doctrine and tactics. It also illustrates the importance of nonpartisanship and the mission and role of the armed forces. Officers, NCOs and their subordinates need to, furthermore, understand their role in defending and protecting the government and the people they serve. They additionally need to know how to successfully accomplish their numerous missions with aggression, audacity, boldness, speed and surprise. The book provides the reader with valuable information relating to conventional and unconventional maneuver. It also discusses how African armies can, with structured and balanced forces, achieve strategic, operational and tactical success. It covers the role of government along with operations related to war, operations other than war and intelligence operations and how these operations, operating in a coordinated and unified manner, can secure and strengthen a government.
Composite Warfare draws on the author's experiences and lessons in Central, Southern, East, West and North Africa where he has served numerous African governments as a politico-military strategist, division commander, division adviser, battalion commander and special operations commander.
http://eebenbarlowsmilitaryandsecurityblog.blogspot.de/2015/07/composite-warfare-conduct-of-successful.html
http://www.amazon.com/Composite-Warfare-Conduct-Successful-Operations/dp/1910294993
Hört sich ein wenig wie die Neuerfindung des Rads an. Und die Royal West African Frontier Force hätte - zusammen mit den politischen und sozioökonomischen Maßnahmen der britischen Kolonialverwaltung - Boko Haram ziemlich schnell ein Ende gemacht, genauso wie es die East African Rifles mit Al-Shabaab getan hätten... Die Kolonialtruppen waren überwiegend auf die Aufrechterhaltung der inneren Sicherheit und die Niederschlagung von Aufständen ausgerichtet, Ausbildung und Ausrüstung waren eben nicht für die konventionelle Kriegsführung in Europa gedacht.
Geschrieben von: Nite 28. Sep 2015, 22:48
Wobei es sowohl bei Boko Haram als auch bei al Shabab mit einer einfachen Niederschlagung nicht getan ist.
Barlow spricht bereits in dieser kurzen Zusammenfassung eine Reihe wichtiger Punkte an die zum Scheitern von militärischen Operationen in Afrika führen, bei Boko Haram und al Shabab kommt allerdings noch der verengte Blickwinkel auf eine rein militärische Betrachtungsweise zum Tragen (etwas das Barlow auch regelmäßig anprangert).
Geschrieben von: Nite 17. Oct 2015, 21:37
Gute Artikelserie der Daily Nation zum Thema Folgen des Terrorismus in Kenya:
http://www.nation.co.ke/terrorism
http://www.nation.co.ke/newsplex/-/2718262/2918950/-/k9gubdz/-/index.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/newsplex/us-military-funding/-/2718262/2918660/-/dxcoiez/-/index.html
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 20. Oct 2015, 07:23
Nachdem Almeran und ich das Thema im Bücherthread schonmal andiskutiert haben, ist mir das hier grade nochmal eingefallen:
ZITAT(Nite @ 28. Sep 2015, 22:48)
Barlow spricht bereits in dieser kurzen Zusammenfassung eine Reihe wichtiger Punkte an die zum Scheitern von militärischen Operationen in Afrika führen, bei Boko Haram und al Shabab kommt allerdings noch der verengte Blickwinkel auf eine rein militärische Betrachtungsweise zum Tragen (etwas das Barlow auch regelmäßig anprangert).
Naja, in http://sofrep.com/40633/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-3-tactics-used-destroy-boko-haram bezeichnet Barlow sein taktisches Konzept des "Relentless Pursuit" als "Counterinsurgency". Mal abgesehen davon, verallgemeinert Barlow die südafrikanischen Erfahrungen aus dem Buschkrieg extrem und stilisiert sich und seine südafrikanischen Kameraden zu Counterinsurgency-Experten - während es sich tatsächlich um Counterguerilla handelt und vieles davon militärischer "Common Sense" ist, z.B. die in dem Artikel aufgeführten Punkte.
Aber wenn ich mir seine http://sofrep.com/40700/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-5-external-drivers-nigerias-war/ durchlese, dann sollte er sowieso besser auf der taktischen Ebene bleiben
Geschrieben von: xena 20. Oct 2015, 14:57
ZITAT(Freestyler @ 20. Oct 2015, 07:23)
Aber wenn ich mir seine http://sofrep.com/40700/eeben-barlow-speaks-pt-5-external-drivers-nigerias-war/ durchlese, dann sollte er sowieso besser auf der taktischen Ebene bleiben
Dann erzähle mal, was daran so aus der Welt sein soll!
Barlow sieht die Welt aus afrikanischer Sicht, so wie Du sie aus europäischer Sicht siehst. Ihr zwei müsst euch nicht einig sein. Jedenfalls klingt einiges plausibel.
Interessant ist auch folgende Aussage:
ZITAT
“Prisoners have told us that Boko Haram is and has been supplied and supported by ‘Europeans’ who have arrived in their safe areas by helicopter.”
Da scheinen Dinge vor zu gehen, die keiner von uns wirklich versteht bzw Ahnung von hat. Wäre ein Fall für investigative Journalisten, da mal zu graben.
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 20. Oct 2015, 17:42
Ja, oder vielleicht ist es auch einfach dummes Geschwätz, dass sich im afrikanischen Busch wie ein Buschfeuer ( ) verbreitet hat... Was eine kurze Google-Suche zu dem Thema ergeben hat:
ZITAT
We Saw Helicopters Dropping Supplies, Arms to Boko Haram; They Were Mostly Chadians – IDPs
Displaced residents of Monguno, in Borno State, which was recently taken over by Boko Haram, have said they saw helicopters dropping arms and food items for the insurgents in the bushes.
The IDPs, who said they spent about 48 hours in the bush running towards Maiduguri, expressed worry that the Boko Haram sect was not the only ones involved in the insurgency, but that there are many foreign fighters and some external supports. Leader of the Nigeria Vigilante Group in Monguno, Muhammed Sani,50, said he had, on several occasions, spotted unusual delivery of items in big wooden boxes by air, and sacks being dropped in the bushes around Marte and Monguno where Boko Haram terrorists were camped. [...]
Sani, who said he had lived in Monguno for the past 20 years, said he fled amidst the hail of bullets when the terrorists became irritated by his anti-bullet charms that rendered bullets ineffective. His shirt and trousers were riddled by bullets, yet he remained unhurt, he said.
Quelle: http://newsrescue.com/saw-helicopters-dropping-supplies-arms-boko-haram-mostly-chadians-idps
Displaced residents of Monguno, in Borno State, which was recently taken over by Boko Haram, have said they saw helicopters dropping arms and food items for the insurgents in the bushes.
The IDPs, who said they spent about 48 hours in the bush running towards Maiduguri, expressed worry that the Boko Haram sect was not the only ones involved in the insurgency, but that there are many foreign fighters and some external supports. Leader of the Nigeria Vigilante Group in Monguno, Muhammed Sani,50, said he had, on several occasions, spotted unusual delivery of items in big wooden boxes by air, and sacks being dropped in the bushes around Marte and Monguno where Boko Haram terrorists were camped. [...]
Sani, who said he had lived in Monguno for the past 20 years, said he fled amidst the hail of bullets when the terrorists became irritated by his anti-bullet charms that rendered bullets ineffective. His shirt and trousers were riddled by bullets, yet he remained unhurt, he said.
Quelle: http://newsrescue.com/saw-helicopters-dropping-supplies-arms-boko-haram-mostly-chadians-idps
Kein weiterer Kommentar zu diesem Zeugen...ZITAT
Senate reveal helicopters ferry in boko haram, arms
It has been revealed that bandits and insurgents operating in the northern part of the country are brought in by helicopters along with their weapons of destruction most likely from foreign country countries. [...]
During the debate, Senator Abu Ibrahim from Katsina revealed that attackers of some of the affected places were not local people but were air-dropped from somewhere else along with their supplies, adding that the local people claim seeing helicopters landing in thick forests and dropping off supplies for the bandits. [...]
Quelle: https://www.naij.com/62451.html
It has been revealed that bandits and insurgents operating in the northern part of the country are brought in by helicopters along with their weapons of destruction most likely from foreign country countries. [...]
During the debate, Senator Abu Ibrahim from Katsina revealed that attackers of some of the affected places were not local people but were air-dropped from somewhere else along with their supplies, adding that the local people claim seeing helicopters landing in thick forests and dropping off supplies for the bandits. [...]
Quelle: https://www.naij.com/62451.html
Das wurde bereits http://allafrica.com/stories/201404220347.html. Es gibt keinerlei Beweise für Lufttransportunterstützung von Boko Haram, abgesehen von den angeblichen Aussagen von Gefangenen und Anwohnern...
Und zum Rest von Barlows Aussagen (ohne den restlichen Quatsch, den SOFREP noch dazudichtet:
ZITAT
While the conflicts in the Middle East and West Africa may seem separate from one another, “one cannot view these groups as ‘isolated’ and ‘independent’ groups, as they all serve a larger interest,” Barlow says. “Before I am viewed as some conspiracy theorist, people need to understand the conflicts, the threat networks, the geo-politics and interests associated with those conflicts. [...]"
War never occurs in a vacuum, but modern telecommunications infrastructure such as cellular-phone networks and the Internet allow geographically dispersed forces to align with one another when they have a common interest—groups like Boko Haram, ISIS, and Al-Shabab.
War never occurs in a vacuum, but modern telecommunications infrastructure such as cellular-phone networks and the Internet allow geographically dispersed forces to align with one another when they have a common interest—groups like Boko Haram, ISIS, and Al-Shabab.
Ahja, welchen "larger interests" denn, abgesehen von der (zumindest oberflächlichen) gleichen Ideologie und Zielen (Errichtung eines weltweiten Kalifats)? Barlow versteht gar nichts, er erkennt auch nicht, diese Gruppe, von ihrer oberflächlichen ideologischen Übereinstimmung, teilweise zutiefst verfeindet sind, was sich z.B. an den http://www.jamestown.org/programs/tm/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=44385&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=26&cHash=f5c93899645b168bee8f0d2d9c3fd185#.ViZsT37hDIU und an der Zersplitterung von Al-Shabaab, den (islamistischen) malischen Rebellen und den diversen Fraktionen in AfPak zeigt. Der Rassismus der arabischen Kämpfer von AQIM hat zur Abspaltung von MUJAO in Mali geführt... Und vor allem: Wer soll denn das steuern?
ZITAT
“The West assisted and trained ‘rebels’ in the now ‘democratic’ Libya. Some of these rebels originated from Nigeria, but in the haste to destroy Gaddafi, no vetting or checks were carried out on who the rebels truly represented or where their loyalties lay,” Barlow said. “As is well known, many of these ‘fighters for democracy’ have found themselves in other conflicts on the side of the Islamist forces. Some of the Nigerian ‘freedom fighters’ from Libya made their way back to Nigeria. It is also a fact that weapons from Libyan and Malian arms depots made their way to Nigeria.”
Nach allen - und hinreichend bewiesenen - Informationen war der einzige, der in Libyen Söldner aus Subsahara-Afrika einsetzte, Ghaddafi selbst, und zwar vor allem Tuareg aus der Sahelzone. Außerdem gab es wohl Versuche, in den Flüchtlingslagern an der Mittelmeerküste weitere Söldner anzuwerben. Die Tuareg setzten sich nach dem Sturz Ghaddafis mit ihrer Ausrüstung nach Mali ab und ermöglichten maßgeblich den Aufstand der Tuareg im Norden Malis. Da diese Waffen erst den Aufstand ermöglichten, gab es auch keine Waffendepots in Mali, die Boko Haram versorgen konnten. Die Waffen von Boko Haram stammen zum einen direkt aus Libyen (u.U. via Mali geschmuggelt), zum anderen von der nigerianischen Armee).
Geschrieben von: KGB 21. Oct 2015, 00:52
Zum Thema Augenzeugen kann man nur den bringen:
MfG der KGB
Geschrieben von: Dave76 3. Nov 2015, 18:22
ZITAT
‘Probably the largest’ al-Qaeda training camp ever destroyed in Afghanistan
By Dan Lamothe - October 30
KABUL, Afghanistan — A multi-day operation in southern Afghanistan this month that involved 200 Special Operations forces and scores of American airstrikes targeted what was “probably the largest” al-Qaeda training camp found in the 14-year Afghan war, the senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan said on Friday.
Army Gen. John F. Campbell, the four-star officer in charge of the U.S. war effort, said the camp was used by AQIS, an acronym for al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent. The group’s formation was announced last year by al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, and is believed to be based in Pakistan and focused on India, Pakistan and other nations in southern Asia.
The operation, announced by the U.S. military on Oct. 11, hit one training area that sprawled over 30 square miles and another small one that was about one square mile, U.S. military officials said. U.S. and Afghan troops were involved in the ground assault, with 63 airstrikes launched to cover them. Some 160 al-Qaeda fighters were reported killed.
[...]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/10/30/probably-the-largest-al-qaeda-training-camp-ever-destroyed-in-afghanistan/
By Dan Lamothe - October 30
KABUL, Afghanistan — A multi-day operation in southern Afghanistan this month that involved 200 Special Operations forces and scores of American airstrikes targeted what was “probably the largest” al-Qaeda training camp found in the 14-year Afghan war, the senior U.S. commander in Afghanistan said on Friday.
Army Gen. John F. Campbell, the four-star officer in charge of the U.S. war effort, said the camp was used by AQIS, an acronym for al-Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent. The group’s formation was announced last year by al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, and is believed to be based in Pakistan and focused on India, Pakistan and other nations in southern Asia.
The operation, announced by the U.S. military on Oct. 11, hit one training area that sprawled over 30 square miles and another small one that was about one square mile, U.S. military officials said. U.S. and Afghan troops were involved in the ground assault, with 63 airstrikes launched to cover them. Some 160 al-Qaeda fighters were reported killed.
[...]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/10/30/probably-the-largest-al-qaeda-training-camp-ever-destroyed-in-afghanistan/
Geschrieben von: Malefiz 3. Nov 2015, 18:33
ZITAT(KGB @ 21. Oct 2015, 00:52)
Zum Thema Augenzeugen kann man nur den bringen:
MfG der KGB
MfG der KGB
Wobei sich dieses Zitat weniger auf die grundsätzliche Unzuverlässigkeit von Augenzeugenberichten bezieht als auf schlechte Verallgemeinbarkeit. Ziel der (Natur)wissenschaft ist es ja idR allgemeingültige Aussagen zu treffen, was aufgrund von Berichten Einzelner sehr schwierig ist, da die Umstände nicht, oder nur unzureichend bekannt sind. Außerdem kann ein Bericht zwar genau sein, bleibt damit aber immernoch nicht objektivierbar, da er ja auf dem subjektiven Erleben des Zeugen beruht. Auch das ein ist ein Hindernis allgemeingültiger Aussagen
Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jan 2016, 12:11
ZITAT(longwarjournal.org)
Shabaab overruns African Union base in southern Somalia
By Caleb Weiss | January 15, 2016
Shabaab, Al Qaeda’s branch in East Africa, reported today that its forces have overrun an African Union base in the southern Somali town of Al Ade. The attack has reportedly left over 60 Kenyan troops dead.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/01/shabaab-overruns-african-union-base-in-southern-somalia.php
By Caleb Weiss | January 15, 2016
Shabaab, Al Qaeda’s branch in East Africa, reported today that its forces have overrun an African Union base in the southern Somali town of Al Ade. The attack has reportedly left over 60 Kenyan troops dead.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/01/shabaab-overruns-african-union-base-in-southern-somalia.php
Geschrieben von: Dave76 16. Jan 2016, 12:18
ZITAT
Burkina Faso
126 Geiseln aus Hotel in Burkina Faso befreit
In der Hauptstadt Burkina Fasos haben Sicherheitskräfte die Geiselnahme in einem Luxushotel beendet. 126 Geiseln wurden befreit, vier Terroristen getötet. Ein Einsatz in einem zweiten Hotel in der Nähe läuft noch.
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http://www.dw.com/de/126-geiseln-aus-hotel-in-burkina-faso-befreit/a-18983741
126 Geiseln aus Hotel in Burkina Faso befreit
In der Hauptstadt Burkina Fasos haben Sicherheitskräfte die Geiselnahme in einem Luxushotel beendet. 126 Geiseln wurden befreit, vier Terroristen getötet. Ein Einsatz in einem zweiten Hotel in der Nähe läuft noch.
[...]
http://www.dw.com/de/126-geiseln-aus-hotel-in-burkina-faso-befreit/a-18983741
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/01/al-qaeda-attacks-hotel-in-burkina-faso.php
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 16. Jan 2016, 15:20
ZITAT(Malefiz @ 3. Nov 2015, 18:33)
Wobei sich dieses Zitat weniger auf die grundsätzliche Unzuverlässigkeit von Augenzeugenberichten bezieht als auf schlechte Verallgemeinbarkeit. Ziel der (Natur)wissenschaft ist es ja idR allgemeingültige Aussagen zu treffen, was aufgrund von Berichten Einzelner sehr schwierig ist, da die Umstände nicht, oder nur unzureichend bekannt sind. Außerdem kann ein Bericht zwar genau sein, bleibt damit aber immernoch nicht objektivierbar, da er ja auf dem subjektiven Erleben des Zeugen beruht. Auch das ein ist ein Hindernis allgemeingültiger Aussagen
Augenzeugen sind im Allgemeinen aber auch notorisch ungenau, unzuverlässig und unterscheiden sich schon bei einer einzelnen Person massiv je nach Vergehen der Zeit, persönlicher Gefahreneinschätzung und Vorhandensein von psychischem Trauma.
Geschrieben von: Nite 16. Jan 2016, 21:36
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 16. Jan 2016, 12:11)
ZITAT(longwarjournal.org)
Shabaab overruns African Union base in southern Somalia
By Caleb Weiss | January 15, 2016
Shabaab, Al Qaeda’s branch in East Africa, reported today that its forces have overrun an African Union base in the southern Somali town of Al Ade. The attack has reportedly left over 60 Kenyan troops dead.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/01/shabaab-overruns-african-union-base-in-southern-somalia.php
By Caleb Weiss | January 15, 2016
Shabaab, Al Qaeda’s branch in East Africa, reported today that its forces have overrun an African Union base in the southern Somali town of Al Ade. The attack has reportedly left over 60 Kenyan troops dead.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/01/shabaab-overruns-african-union-base-in-southern-somalia.php
Das ganze hat in Kenya auch noch zu einem Shitstorm in den sozialen Medien geführt da das Militär erst verbreitet hat Ziel des Angriffs wäre eine Kaserne der somalischen Streitkräfte gewesen und die Kenyaner hätten einen Gegenangriff geführt, was nachweislich eine Falschmeldung war.
Geschrieben von: Dave76 8. Mar 2016, 12:38
ZITAT
U.S. Conducts Airstrike Against Terrorist Camp in Somalia
WASHINGTON, March 7, 2016 — The U.S. military, in self-defense and in defense of its African Union Mission in Somalia, or AMISOM, partners, yesterday conducted an airstrike in Somalia against Raso Camp, Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said in a statement released today.
The camp is a training facility of al-Shabaab, which is a terrorist group affiliated with al-Qaeda, Cook said. The strike was conducted using manned and unmanned aircraft, he said, and the fighters who were scheduled to depart the camp posed an imminent threat to U.S. and AMISOM forces.
“The removal of these fighters degrades al-Shabaab's ability to meet the group's objectives in Somalia, including recruiting new members, establishing bases and planning attacks on U.S. and AMISOM forces,” Cook said.
The results of the operation are under assessment, he said, and additional information will be provided, when appropriate, as it is available.
WASHINGTON, March 7, 2016 — The U.S. military, in self-defense and in defense of its African Union Mission in Somalia, or AMISOM, partners, yesterday conducted an airstrike in Somalia against Raso Camp, Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook said in a statement released today.
The camp is a training facility of al-Shabaab, which is a terrorist group affiliated with al-Qaeda, Cook said. The strike was conducted using manned and unmanned aircraft, he said, and the fighters who were scheduled to depart the camp posed an imminent threat to U.S. and AMISOM forces.
“The removal of these fighters degrades al-Shabaab's ability to meet the group's objectives in Somalia, including recruiting new members, establishing bases and planning attacks on U.S. and AMISOM forces,” Cook said.
The results of the operation are under assessment, he said, and additional information will be provided, when appropriate, as it is available.
http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/687353/us-conducts-airstrike-against-terrorist-camp-in-somalia
ZITAT
US air strike 'kills 150 Somali militants'
7 March 2016
A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.
"We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.
"Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.
Mr Davis said the strike, by both drones and manned aircraft, took place on Saturday and targeted Raso Camp, a training facility about 120 miles (195km) north of the capital, Mogadishu.
The camp had been under surveillance for some time, according to Mr Davis. "There was a sense that the operational phase was about to happen," he said.
[...]
7 March 2016
A US air strike has killed more than 150 al-Shabab militants in Somalia, the Pentagon says.
Spokesman Captain Jeff Davis said the strike hit a training camp where a "large-scale" attack was being planned.
"We know they were going to be departing the camp and they posed an imminent threat to US and [African Union] forces," Captain Davis said.
"Initial assessments are that more than 150 terrorist fighters were eliminated," he added.
Mr Davis said the strike, by both drones and manned aircraft, took place on Saturday and targeted Raso Camp, a training facility about 120 miles (195km) north of the capital, Mogadishu.
The camp had been under surveillance for some time, according to Mr Davis. "There was a sense that the operational phase was about to happen," he said.
[...]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35748986
Geschrieben von: Dave76 11. Mar 2016, 10:24
ZITAT
US troops in helicopter-borne raid in Somalia: Pentagon
March 9, 2016
Washington (AFP) - US troops accompanied Somali forces in a helicopter raid against Shebab insurgents in Somalia, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday.
US aircraft were used in the operation against the Al-Qaeda-affiliated group, which the spokesman described as an "advise, assist and accompany mission" with the Somali army.
"We did go on the mission but we did not go all the way to the objective," Navy Captain Jeff Davis said.
The raid overnight Tuesday to Wednesday came just days after US warplanes and drones killed an estimated 130 Shebab fighters training for a major operation, according to the Pentagon.
Special forces operatives in two helicopters targeted the Shebab-controlled town of Awdhegele, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) west of Somalia's capital Mogadishu, Somali government officials and a Shebab spokesman said.
"We have reports Shebab militants suffered casualties," local district commissioner Mohamed Aweys told reporters.
It was not immediately clear what the objective was, but helicopter raids in the past have been hostage rescue missions, such as a US commando operation in 2012 to free two aid workers who had been held for three months by the group.
[...]
March 9, 2016
Washington (AFP) - US troops accompanied Somali forces in a helicopter raid against Shebab insurgents in Somalia, a Pentagon spokesman said Wednesday.
US aircraft were used in the operation against the Al-Qaeda-affiliated group, which the spokesman described as an "advise, assist and accompany mission" with the Somali army.
"We did go on the mission but we did not go all the way to the objective," Navy Captain Jeff Davis said.
The raid overnight Tuesday to Wednesday came just days after US warplanes and drones killed an estimated 130 Shebab fighters training for a major operation, according to the Pentagon.
Special forces operatives in two helicopters targeted the Shebab-controlled town of Awdhegele, about 50 kilometers (30 miles) west of Somalia's capital Mogadishu, Somali government officials and a Shebab spokesman said.
"We have reports Shebab militants suffered casualties," local district commissioner Mohamed Aweys told reporters.
It was not immediately clear what the objective was, but helicopter raids in the past have been hostage rescue missions, such as a US commando operation in 2012 to free two aid workers who had been held for three months by the group.
[...]
http://news.yahoo.com/special-forces-stage-helicopter-raid-somalias-shebab-083932693.html
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2016/03/us-special-operations-forces-raid-shabaab-in-southern-somalia.php
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 15. Mar 2016, 14:11
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/03/15/us-led-coalition-spokesman-also-says-is-commander-is-dead.html
Tod von Abu Omar Al Shischani wird mittlerweile bestätigt. Mal gucken ob der IS das ebenfalls bestätigt
Update. Amaq bestreitet seinen Tod
https://twitter.com/CTstudies/status/709717846293671936
Geschrieben von: Nite 15. Mar 2016, 14:15
ZITAT
Ivory Coast: 16 dead in Grand Bassam beach resort attack
Militants have killed at least 16 people in a gun attack on a beach resort in southern Ivory Coast.
The attackers fired on beach-goers in Grand Bassam, about 40km (25 miles) from the commercial capital Abidjan.
The resort is popular with both locals and foreigners. Four of the dead were Westerners, including a French and a German national, officials say.
Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) said it launched the attack. The gunmen have been "neutralised", officials say.
Ivory Coast was once one of the most stable countries in West Africa.
However, a civil war broke out in 2002, pitting the mainly Muslim north against the largely Christian south. Since then, peace deals have alternated with renewed violence.
[...]
Militants have killed at least 16 people in a gun attack on a beach resort in southern Ivory Coast.
The attackers fired on beach-goers in Grand Bassam, about 40km (25 miles) from the commercial capital Abidjan.
The resort is popular with both locals and foreigners. Four of the dead were Westerners, including a French and a German national, officials say.
Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) said it launched the attack. The gunmen have been "neutralised", officials say.
Ivory Coast was once one of the most stable countries in West Africa.
However, a civil war broke out in 2002, pitting the mainly Muslim north against the largely Christian south. Since then, peace deals have alternated with renewed violence.
[...]
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35798502
Der Anschlag wurde wohl nach demselben Muster verübt wie der Anschlag in Sousse, Tunesien, letztes Jahr.
Geschrieben von: Nite 16. Mar 2016, 14:46
Aufgrund der Anschläge der letzten Monate will Frankreich dauerhaft Spezialkräfte in Westafrika stationieren:
ZITAT
Cote d'Ivoire: West Africa Vows to Step Up Security After Ivory Coast Attack
[...]
As the news of the attack spread several heads of state offered their condolences to Ivory Coast and the families of the victims. On Tuesday, France's foreign and interior ministers travelled to Ivory Coast and announced an even stronger commitment to fight terrorism in West Africa. France's interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve announced that France would station armed gendarmes in neighboring Burkina Faso. "The desire to position this team in Ouagadougou is to enable us to immediately dispense advice and coordinate other actions in the event of a terrorist crisis," Cazeneuve said.
[...]
[...]
As the news of the attack spread several heads of state offered their condolences to Ivory Coast and the families of the victims. On Tuesday, France's foreign and interior ministers travelled to Ivory Coast and announced an even stronger commitment to fight terrorism in West Africa. France's interior minister Bernard Cazeneuve announced that France would station armed gendarmes in neighboring Burkina Faso. "The desire to position this team in Ouagadougou is to enable us to immediately dispense advice and coordinate other actions in the event of a terrorist crisis," Cazeneuve said.
[...]
http://allafrica.com/stories/201603160020.html
ZITAT
France to station paramilitary forces in Burkina Faso to counter jihadist threat
France has announced a plan to send gendarmerie forces to the capital of Burkina Faso to counter the threat posed by Islamist militants in West Africa. A team from the National Gendarmerie Intervention Group (GIGN) will be deployed in Ouagadougou to respond in the event of a "terrorist crisis", Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said.
The announcement comes 48 hours after gunmen opened fire at a beach resort in Ivory Coast, killing 18 people, including four French nationals.
[...]
France has announced a plan to send gendarmerie forces to the capital of Burkina Faso to counter the threat posed by Islamist militants in West Africa. A team from the National Gendarmerie Intervention Group (GIGN) will be deployed in Ouagadougou to respond in the event of a "terrorist crisis", Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said.
The announcement comes 48 hours after gunmen opened fire at a beach resort in Ivory Coast, killing 18 people, including four French nationals.
[...]
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/france-station-paramilitary-forces-burkina-faso-counter-jihadist-threat-1549717
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 24. Mar 2016, 11:34
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/03/24/iraq-army-starts-operation-recapture-mosul-isil/82198526/
Da ein adäquater Thread immer noch nicht zur Verfügung steht, tu ich es mal hier rein.
ISF starten Offensive zur Rückeroberung von Mosul.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/stnews/international/2016/03/24/Syria-regime-forces-close-in-on-IS-held-Palmyra
SAA nähert sich nach tagelangen Kämpfen und erbittertem Widerstand dem Stadtrand von Palmyra. Hier sind auch die ersten russischen Bodentruppen gefallen.
Geschrieben von: Seydlitz 24. Mar 2016, 11:45
ZITAT(schießmuskel @ 24. Mar 2016, 11:34)
SAA nähert sich nach tagelangen Kämpfen und erbittertem Widerstand dem Stadtrand von Palmyra. Hier sind auch die ersten russischen Bodentruppen gefallen.
Gibt es da irgendwelche weiteren Informationen zu?
In dem Artikel habe ich so nichts gefunden, oder überlesen?
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 24. Mar 2016, 12:49
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-syria-four-more-russian-soldiers-killed-battle-palmyra-claims-islamic-state-1550338
Geschrieben von: Seydlitz 25. Mar 2016, 12:19
Ok, danke.
Geschrieben von: Seydlitz 30. Mar 2016, 13:55
Kurzer Beitrag von zeit.de zu einem Bombenanschlag in Dagestan > http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2016-03/dagestan-russland-anschlag-islamischer-staat
ZITAT
Bei einem Anschlag in der russischen Kaukasusrepublik Dagestan sind nach Behördenangaben ein Polizist getötet und zwei weitere Beamte verletzt worden. Zwei Fahrzeuge seien in der Nacht zum Mittwoch in die Luft gesprengt worden, sagte Polizeisprecherin Fatina Ubaidatowa. Es sei noch unklar, um welche Art von Bombe es sich gehandelt habe. Zu dem Anschlag bekannte sich die Terrormiliz "Islamischer Staat" (IS).
Geschrieben von: Seydlitz 1. Apr 2016, 22:10
Ein Bericht von welt.de über das Problem der IS Rückkehrer
ZITAT
Ein Drittel der IS-Kämpfer ist zurück in Europa ... Die Gefahr, die von diesen Kämpfern ausgeht, wächst. Von den mehr als 4200 Menschen, die aus EU-Staaten in den Dschihad nach Syrien oder in den Irak zogen, ist mittlerweile ein Drittel in ihre Heimat zurückgekehrt. Die meisten kommen aus Belgien, Frankreich, Deutschland und Großbritannien.Die Gefahr, die von diesen Kämpfern ausgeht, wächst... Zwischen September 2014 und September 2015 verdoppelte sich die Anzahl der ausländischen Kämpfer in Syrien und dem Irak. Es wird geschätzt, dass mittlerweile 30.000 Ausländer für die Islamisten unter Waffen stehen. Sie kommen aus 104 Staaten.
ZITAT
Ihr Kampf für das Kalifat des Islamischen Staats ist demnach weniger eine religiöse Pflicht für diese jungen Männer, sondern vor allem eine "emotionale Antwort auf das Gefühl von Ungerechtigkeit in ihren Heimatgesellschaften". Häufig haben diejenigen, die in den Nahen Osten ziehen, eine kriminelle Vergangenheit. Sie handelten mit Drogen, stahlen oder fielen durch Gewaltdelikte auf. Der Islamistische Staat verspricht ihnen nun eine neue, aufregende Dimension in ihrem Leben.
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article153904400/Ein-Drittel-der-IS-Kaempfer-ist-zurueck-in-Europa.html
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 9. Apr 2016, 14:56
Passiert hier gerade etwas Großes vor unser aller Augen? Erleben wir gerade den Anfang des Umsturzes des Denkens und merken es noch nicht einmal wirklich? Sind wir am Anfang der Renaissance der islamischen Welt und hat all das Leid vielleicht doch ein gutes Ergebnis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGqB4raTZo
ZITAT
Saudi journalist and TV host Nadine Al-Budair recently criticized the "hypocrites" who say that the terrorists "do not represent Islam or the Muslims." After the abominable Brussels bombings, it's time for us to feel shame and to stop acting as if the terrorists are a rarity," she said, in an address that aired on the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV on April 3. "Why do we shed our own conscience?" she asked. "Don't these perpetrators emerge from our environment?"
Mir fehlt freilich der Kontext hier und ich kann es nur oberflächlich nachvollziehen, aber "Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV" gehört zur Rotana Gruppe, dem größten arabischen Medienkonglomerat, welches wiederum dem saudischen Prinzen Al-Waleed bin Talal gehört, der ein Neffe des derzeitigen saudischen Königs Abdullah ist, und soweit ich das überblicken kann, ist der Kanal nicht gerade unbedeutend. Al-Waleed bin Talal ist in der Vergangenheit schon häufiger als Philantrop aufgefallen.
Geschrieben von: ede144 9. Apr 2016, 15:02
ZITAT(Madner Kami @ 9. Apr 2016, 15:56)
Passiert hier gerade etwas Großes vor unser aller Augen? Erleben wir gerade den Anfang des Umsturzes des Denkens und merken es noch nicht einmal wirklich? Sind wir am Anfang der Renaissance der islamischen Welt und hat all das Leid vielleicht doch ein gutes Ergebnis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGqB4raTZo
Mir fehlt freilich der Kontext hier und ich kann es nur oberflächlich nachvollziehen, aber "Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV" gehört zur Rotana Gruppe, dem größten arabischen Medienkonglomerat, welches wiederum dem saudischen Prinzen Al-Waleed bin Talal gehört, der ein Neffe des derzeitigen saudischen Königs Abdullah ist, und soweit ich das überblicken kann, ist der Kanal nicht gerade unbedeutend. Al-Waleed bin Talal ist in der Vergangenheit schon häufiger als Philantrop aufgefallen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceGqB4raTZo
ZITAT
Saudi journalist and TV host Nadine Al-Budair recently criticized the "hypocrites" who say that the terrorists "do not represent Islam or the Muslims." After the abominable Brussels bombings, it's time for us to feel shame and to stop acting as if the terrorists are a rarity," she said, in an address that aired on the Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV on April 3. "Why do we shed our own conscience?" she asked. "Don't these perpetrators emerge from our environment?"
Mir fehlt freilich der Kontext hier und ich kann es nur oberflächlich nachvollziehen, aber "Saudi Rotana Khalijiyah TV" gehört zur Rotana Gruppe, dem größten arabischen Medienkonglomerat, welches wiederum dem saudischen Prinzen Al-Waleed bin Talal gehört, der ein Neffe des derzeitigen saudischen Königs Abdullah ist, und soweit ich das überblicken kann, ist der Kanal nicht gerade unbedeutend. Al-Waleed bin Talal ist in der Vergangenheit schon häufiger als Philantrop aufgefallen.
Letztes Jahr gab es glaube ich eine Diskussion an der Universität von Kairo bei der eine ähnliche These diskutiert wurde. Da ging es darum das sich der Islam modernisieren müsse.
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 9. Apr 2016, 15:21
Ja, ich bilde mir ein, dass auch ein Imam aus Pakistan da letztes Jahr was dazu gesagt hat. Aber ich finde halt, wenn das so offiziell von einem saudischen Sender kommt, hat das ein größeres Kaliber.
Geschrieben von: Parsifal 13. Apr 2016, 01:35
Russische Schläfer unterwandern uns offensichtlich!
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/experte-enthuellt-das-ist-putins-geheime-armee-in-deutschland_id_5425025.html
Geschrieben von: bill kilgore 13. Apr 2016, 07:47
ZITAT(Parsifal @ 13. Apr 2016, 02:35)
Russische Schläfer unterwandern uns offensichtlich!
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/experte-enthuellt-das-ist-putins-geheime-armee-in-deutschland_id_5425025.html
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/experte-enthuellt-das-ist-putins-geheime-armee-in-deutschland_id_5425025.html
Schreibt doch bitte in Zukunft dazu wohin der Link führt. Ich musste schnell zur Augenspülstation.
Oder wir einigen uns darauf das der Mist* vom Focus ausschliesslich im Witzethread landet.
*Clickbait, Panikmache, Dumm.
Geschrieben von: goschi 13. Apr 2016, 07:49
Oder ich sperre Focus.de in Zukunft einfach, niemandem entgeht dann etwas, ausser abgeschleppten Eurofightern....
Geschrieben von: xena 13. Apr 2016, 14:22
Abgeschleppte Eurofighter? Sind die Politessen jetzt auch auf Fliegerhorsten unterwegs?
Sorry, couldn't resist...
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 13. Apr 2016, 15:19
ZITAT(goschi @ 13. Apr 2016, 08:49)
Oder ich sperre Focus.de in Zukunft einfach, niemandem entgeht dann etwas, ausser abgeschleppten Eurofightern....
Erst die geheime Forenpolizei und jetzt auch noch Zensur androhen? Wie tief seid ihr gefallen...
Geschrieben von: Dave76 5. Jun 2016, 16:56
ZITAT
Niger und Nigeria
Über 50 Tote bei Gefechten mit Boko-Haram-Kämpfern
Kämpfer der Islamistenmiliz Boko Haram überfielen im Niger ein Militärlager und töteten 32 Soldaten. Bei einem Gegenangriff im Nachbarland Nigeria starben 19 Terroristen.
5. Juni 2016
Bei Kämpfen zwischen der radikalislamischen Gruppierung Boko Haram und Soldaten in Niger und Nigeria sind mehr als 50 Menschen getötet worden. Boko-Haram-Kämpfer griffen die Stadt Bosso im Grenzgebiet des Niger an und töteten mindestens 32 Soldaten, wie das Verteidigungsministerium in Niamey mitteilte. Bei einem Armeeeinsatz gegen Boko Haram in Nigeria wurden 19 mutmaßliche Islamisten getötet.
[...]
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-06/niger-islamisten-boko-haram-soldaten-getoetet
Über 50 Tote bei Gefechten mit Boko-Haram-Kämpfern
Kämpfer der Islamistenmiliz Boko Haram überfielen im Niger ein Militärlager und töteten 32 Soldaten. Bei einem Gegenangriff im Nachbarland Nigeria starben 19 Terroristen.
5. Juni 2016
Bei Kämpfen zwischen der radikalislamischen Gruppierung Boko Haram und Soldaten in Niger und Nigeria sind mehr als 50 Menschen getötet worden. Boko-Haram-Kämpfer griffen die Stadt Bosso im Grenzgebiet des Niger an und töteten mindestens 32 Soldaten, wie das Verteidigungsministerium in Niamey mitteilte. Bei einem Armeeeinsatz gegen Boko Haram in Nigeria wurden 19 mutmaßliche Islamisten getötet.
[...]
http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-06/niger-islamisten-boko-haram-soldaten-getoetet
Geschrieben von: Crazy Butcher 5. Jun 2016, 18:13
ZITAT(Parsifal @ 13. Apr 2016, 02:35)
Russische Schläfer unterwandern uns offensichtlich!
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/experte-enthuellt-das-ist-putins-geheime-armee-in-deutschland_id_5425025.html
http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschland/experte-enthuellt-das-ist-putins-geheime-armee-in-deutschland_id_5425025.html
Das sehe ich ja jetzt erst. Die können alle 'Sistema' - eindeutig ein Fall für Chuck Norris
Geschrieben von: Almeran 6. Jun 2016, 12:09
Wenn es die Islamisten nicht machen, machen es halt die Rechten:
http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article155995027/Franzose-mit-EM-Anschlagsplaenen-in-Ukraine-festgenommen.html
ZITAT
Ein Franzose, der 15 Anschläge auf die Fußball-EM in Frankreich geplant haben soll, ist in Kiew festgenommen worden. Angeblich hatte der Mann 125 Kilogramm des Sprengstoffs TNT bei sich.
In der Ukraine ist ein Franzose festgenommen worden, der 15 Anschläge vor und während der Fußball-Europameisterschaft in Frankreich geplant haben soll. Der Mann hat nach Angaben des ukrainischen Geheimdienstes versucht, in der Ukraine Waffen und Sprengstoff zu kaufen. Das berichtet die Nachrichtenagentur Reuters.
Die Nachrichtenagenturen AFP und sid berichten zudem unter Berufung auf ukrainische Behörden, der Mann habe 125 Kilogramm des Sprengstoffs TNT bei sich gehabt.
Der Verdächtige lehnt die französische Regierungspolitik eines "massiven Zuzugs von Ausländern nach Frankreich, die Verbreitung des Islam und die Globalisierung" ab, heißt es in den Berichten übereinstimmend.
In der Ukraine ist ein Franzose festgenommen worden, der 15 Anschläge vor und während der Fußball-Europameisterschaft in Frankreich geplant haben soll. Der Mann hat nach Angaben des ukrainischen Geheimdienstes versucht, in der Ukraine Waffen und Sprengstoff zu kaufen. Das berichtet die Nachrichtenagentur Reuters.
Die Nachrichtenagenturen AFP und sid berichten zudem unter Berufung auf ukrainische Behörden, der Mann habe 125 Kilogramm des Sprengstoffs TNT bei sich gehabt.
Der Verdächtige lehnt die französische Regierungspolitik eines "massiven Zuzugs von Ausländern nach Frankreich, die Verbreitung des Islam und die Globalisierung" ab, heißt es in den Berichten übereinstimmend.
Geschrieben von: Kiebitz 6. Jun 2016, 12:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekpjzjNFIXI stand er unter Beobachtung
Geschrieben von: xena 6. Jun 2016, 14:14
Bei dem Chaos in der Wohnung war es wohl einfach eine Kamera zu verstecken...
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 6. Jun 2016, 15:54
ZITAT(Almeran @ 6. Jun 2016, 13:09)
Wenn es die Islamisten nicht machen, machen es halt die Rechten:
ZITAT
Der Verdächtige lehnt die französische Regierungspolitik eines "massiven Zuzugs von Ausländern nach Frankreich, die Verbreitung des Islam und die Globalisierung" ab, heißt es in den Berichten übereinstimmend.
Aber selbst international operierender Terrorist sein und in der Ukraine für Russland kämpfen. Oh the irony...
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 6. Jun 2016, 16:01
http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2016-06/ukraine-terrorverdacht-frankreich-fussball-em-geheimdienst
Artikel dazu aus der Zeit. Bin mal gespannt, was daraus wird. Die Rechte regt sich über solche Leute ja nie auf. War schon in München so.
Geschrieben von: Glorfindel 6. Jun 2016, 18:27
Angesichts des Waffenarsenals deutet dies ja auf keinen Einzeltäter hin. Dazu ist dann aber wieder anzufügen, dass es um mehrere Terroranschläge gleichzeitig durchzuführen durchaus eine erhebliche Planung und Koordination bedarf. Dass eine Einzelperson mehrere schwere Anschläge gleichzeitig durchführen kann, wie dies Anders Breivik gelungen ist, ist die absolute Ausnahme.
Geschrieben von: Crazy Butcher 6. Jun 2016, 18:51
ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 6. Jun 2016, 16:54)
Aber selbst international operierender Terrorist sein und in der Ukraine für Russland kämpfen. Oh the irony...
Da hast du etwas zu schnell gelesen: gegen prorussische Separatisten.
ZITAT(Glorfindel @ 6. Jun 2016, 19:27)
Angesichts des Waffenarsenals deutet dies ja auf keinen Einzeltäter hin. Dazu ist dann aber wieder anzufügen, dass es um mehrere Terroranschläge gleichzeitig durchzuführen durchaus eine erhebliche Planung und Koordination bedarf. Dass eine Einzelperson mehrere schwere Anschläge gleichzeitig durchführen kann, wie dies Anders Breivik gelungen ist, ist die absolute Ausnahme.
Vor allem braucht man dazu keine zwanzig Sturmhauben. Wie wollte der gute Mann mit all dem Zeug über die Grenze kommen? Schon recht kurios das ganze. Ich bin gespannt ob der gute nach Frankreich ausgeliefert wird und welche Erkenntnisse dort gewonnen werden.
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 6. Jun 2016, 19:43
ZITAT(Crazy Butcher @ 6. Jun 2016, 19:51)
Wie wollte der gute Mann mit all dem Zeug über die Grenze kommen? Schon recht kurios das ganze. Ich bin gespannt ob der gute nach Frankreich ausgeliefert wird und welche Erkenntnisse dort gewonnen werden.
Offenbar in dem Renault Kangoo. Was der internationale Zigarettenschmuggel kann, kann der schon lange.
Geschrieben von: Parsifal 6. Jun 2016, 20:01
Oh, ich seh ja jetzt erst was der von mir verlinkte Focusdreck für ne Welle machte. 
('tschuldigung)
Geschrieben von: Seydlitz 7. Jun 2016, 10:15
In der Türkei, genauer in Istanbul, hat es (mal) wieder einen Bombenanschlag gegeben.
Bei der Detonation einer vermutlich ferngezündeten Autobombe kamen nach jetzigen Stand 11 Menschen ums Leben, 7 Polizisten und 4 Zivilisten, 36 Personen wurden verletzt.
http://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/2016-06/istanbul-tuerkei-anschlag-polizei
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In Istanbul hat es nahe einer Bushaltestelle einen Anschlag mit mindestens elf Toten und zahlreichen Verletzten gegeben. Die Attacke richtete sich gegen einen Polizeibus.
Geschrieben von: General Gauder 12. Jun 2016, 15:30
Ich packe es mal hier rein, auch wenn noch nicht klar ist ob es wirklich ein Terroranschlag war.
In der ARD wurde gerade eben eingeblendet das es ca. 50 Tote und 50 Verletzte bei einer Schießerei in einem Club in Orlando Florida gegeben hat
http://www.heute.de/tote-bei-schiesserei-in-orlando-43919706.html
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/orlando-anschlag-101.htmlDie Artikel sind wohl mitlerweile überholt ich lasse sie aber solange stehen bis es neue gibt.
In der Tagesschau um 17 Uhr soll es dann wohl neue Infos geben.
Geschrieben von: Almeran 12. Jun 2016, 18:31
Bin gespannt, ob der Täter eher aus der "Alllahu Akbar" - oder der "God hates fags" -Ecke kommt. Aber eines sieht man schon wieder: mit laxen Waffengesetzen erspart man Terroristen jedweder Couleur echt viel Aufwand bei Planung und Durchführung.
Geschrieben von: goschi 12. Jun 2016, 18:39
ZITAT(Almeran @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:31)
Bin gespannt, ob der Täter eher aus der "Alllahu Akbar" - oder der "God hates fags" -Ecke kommt. Aber eines sieht man schon wieder: mit laxen Waffengesetzen erspart man Terroristen jedweder Couleur echt viel Aufwand bei Planung und Durchführung.
Waren nicht gerade zum Attentat in Paris die Rufe laut "jedem eine Waffe, dann wär das nicht passiert"?
ja, klappt super...
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 12. Jun 2016, 19:06
ZITAT(goschi @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:39)
ZITAT(Almeran @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:31)
Bin gespannt, ob der Täter eher aus der "Alllahu Akbar" - oder der "God hates fags" -Ecke kommt. Aber eines sieht man schon wieder: mit laxen Waffengesetzen erspart man Terroristen jedweder Couleur echt viel Aufwand bei Planung und Durchführung.
Waren nicht gerade zum Attentat in Paris die Rufe laut "jedem eine Waffe, dann wär das nicht passiert"?
ja, klappt super...
Genau. Denn jeder Schuss trifft.
Geschrieben von: Kampfhamster 12. Jun 2016, 19:07
ZITAT(goschi @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:39)
ZITAT(Almeran @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:31)
Bin gespannt, ob der Täter eher aus der "Alllahu Akbar" - oder der "God hates fags" -Ecke kommt. Aber eines sieht man schon wieder: mit laxen Waffengesetzen erspart man Terroristen jedweder Couleur echt viel Aufwand bei Planung und Durchführung.
Waren nicht gerade zum Attentat in Paris die Rufe laut "jedem eine Waffe, dann wär das nicht passiert"?
ja, klappt super...
Nachtclubs sind "waffenfreie" Zonen
Geschrieben von: goschi 12. Jun 2016, 19:12
Und inwiefern hätte das dann im Bataclan geholfen?
Denn genau darauf bezog sich damals die Aussage...
Geschrieben von: Kampfhamster 12. Jun 2016, 19:21
Die Opfer hätten wenigstens eine Chance gehabt.
Aber mal abgesehen von der "Waffe - ja oder nein"-Frage gibt es da viele Faktoren, die mitspielen.
Ich würds nicht darauf reduzieren.
Geschrieben von: goschi 12. Jun 2016, 19:25
Wie?
Das Bataclan war ebenso ein Nachtclub...
Geschrieben von: Kampfhamster 12. Jun 2016, 19:26
Wie? Indem man ein adäquates Mittel zur Gegenwehr hat.
Geschrieben von: Sparta 12. Jun 2016, 19:27
Wir hatten ellenlange Diskussionen wie wenig Chance Polizisten mit Pistolen gegen die Attentäter hatten. Und jetzt erklär mir mal wie das für die Opfer besser gelaufen wäre wenn diese teilweise Pistolen hätten. Außer das es mehr Opfer von 9mm gegeben hätte....
Geschrieben von: Kampfhamster 12. Jun 2016, 19:30
Und jetzt erklär mir mal, was besser daran ist wegzulaufen und in den Rücken geschossen zu werden?
Ich würd lieber die Chancen auf mich nehmen mit einer Pistole, als um Gnade zu winseln und abgeknallt zu werden wie ein Hund.
Jetzt mal abgesehen davon, dass das noch viel weiter geht, als nur eine Pistole zu führen, an einem Ort, wo man womöglich noch Alkohol konsumiert.
Wie oben geschrieben: so einfach ist die Frage nicht. Aber die einfache Antwort "Alle Waffen sind böse" ist auch nicht richtig.
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 12. Jun 2016, 19:43
Kampfhamster , ich kann nur hoffen du meinst das nicht ernst.
Wenn jeder eine Waffe hat, wird alles noch viel schlimmer.
Stell dir bitte die Situation vor. Es ist laut, eng,unübersichtlich und ggfs. Noch dunkel (Kino, Konzert, Nachtclubs etc. ) Jetzt fallen Schüsse Menschen fallen um,schreien, laufen und dann zieht jeder noch eine Waffe.
Was meinst du was dann passiert? Keiner weiß wer der oder die Täter sind . Man sieht nur etliche Typen mit Waffen rumfuchteln in einer ohnehin schon chaotischen Situation. Da wird es nicht lange dauern bis irgend einer meint einen Angreifer vor sich zu haben und schießen wird. Andere halten den dann für den Angreifer und schießen auch. So und dann kommt die Polizei in eine Situation wo Dutzende bewaffnete aufeinander schießen und die müssen dann auch noch schießen. So ähnlich lief es ja bei dem Bikertreffen in Texas ab. Zwei geraten in Streit aber alle Anwesenden sind bewaffnet und ziehen und die Polizei schießt dann auch noch.
Ergo , dieses Argument, dass wenn alle bewaffnet sind so was nicht passieren kann ist grober unfug.
1. Ist nicht jeder der am Wochenende auf dem Schießstand bei guter Sicht auf Zielscheiben schießt, in der Lage mit seiner Waffe ein so komplexes Szenario zu beherrschen.
2. Ein Attentäter trägt keine Warnweste mit der Aufschrift Attentäter und deshalb macht sich jeder der eine Waffe in der Hand hat zum Ziel für Andere.
3. Gehört in der westlichen Welt der Genuss von Alkohol in solchen Etablissements oft dazu und jemand der schon das ein oder andere Bier im Schädel hat sollte nicht mehr zur Waffe greifen und am besten nicht mal eine dabei haben.
Geschrieben von: Dave76 12. Jun 2016, 19:49
ZITAT
What We Know About Omar Mateen, Suspected Orlando Nightclub Shooter
Jun 12, 2016
Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S.-born citizen, has been identified as the suspect in Sunday's mass shooting that left at least 50 dead and more than 50 others wounded at the Pulse Orlando, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida.
In the midst of the attack, Mateen called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS, according to two law enforcement officials.
Terrorism observers told ABC News that while ISIS supporters have cheered the massacre online, so far there has been no claim of responsibility from any terrorist organization and no evidence of inside knowledge of the plot. ISIS, which is based in Syria, has targeted gay men for beatings and murder in the Middle East and has filmed its members throwing some men suspected of being gay from the roofs of buildings.
During Mateen's 911, he also made reference to the 2013 Boston Marathon bombers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, officials said.
Law enforcement officials told ABC News that Mateen was "on the radar" of U.S. security officials for some time but was not the target of a specific investigation. Mateen, whose parents are from Afghanistan, was born in New York but lived in an apartment in Fort Pierce, Florida, more than 100 miles from Orlando, officials said.
[...]
http://abcnews.go.com/US/omar-mateen-suspected-orlando-night-club-shooter/story?id=39790797
Jun 12, 2016
Omar Mateen, a 29-year-old U.S.-born citizen, has been identified as the suspect in Sunday's mass shooting that left at least 50 dead and more than 50 others wounded at the Pulse Orlando, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida.
In the midst of the attack, Mateen called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS, according to two law enforcement officials.
Terrorism observers told ABC News that while ISIS supporters have cheered the massacre online, so far there has been no claim of responsibility from any terrorist organization and no evidence of inside knowledge of the plot. ISIS, which is based in Syria, has targeted gay men for beatings and murder in the Middle East and has filmed its members throwing some men suspected of being gay from the roofs of buildings.
During Mateen's 911, he also made reference to the 2013 Boston Marathon bombers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, officials said.
Law enforcement officials told ABC News that Mateen was "on the radar" of U.S. security officials for some time but was not the target of a specific investigation. Mateen, whose parents are from Afghanistan, was born in New York but lived in an apartment in Fort Pierce, Florida, more than 100 miles from Orlando, officials said.
[...]
http://abcnews.go.com/US/omar-mateen-suspected-orlando-night-club-shooter/story?id=39790797
Geschrieben von: der_finne 12. Jun 2016, 20:06
ZITAT(Kampfhamster @ 12. Jun 2016, 20:26)
Wie? Indem man ein adäquates Mittel zur Gegenwehr hat.
Ich denke Nachtclubs sind "waffenfreie Zonen"? Hab ich mir zumindest kürzlich in dem Thread sagen lassen...
Geschrieben von: Kampfhamster 13. Jun 2016, 04:44
ZITAT(schießmuskel @ 12. Jun 2016, 20:43)
Kampfhamster , ich kann nur hoffen du meinst das nicht ernst.
Wenn jeder eine Waffe hat, wird alles noch viel schlimmer.
Stell dir bitte die Situation vor. Es ist laut, eng,unübersichtlich und ggfs. Noch dunkel (Kino, Konzert, Nachtclubs etc. ) Jetzt fallen Schüsse Menschen fallen um,schreien, laufen und dann zieht jeder noch eine Waffe.
Was meinst du was dann passiert? Keiner weiß wer der oder die Täter sind . Man sieht nur etliche Typen mit Waffen rumfuchteln in einer ohnehin schon chaotischen Situation. Da wird es nicht lange dauern bis irgend einer meint einen Angreifer vor sich zu haben und schießen wird. Andere halten den dann für den Angreifer und schießen auch. So und dann kommt die Polizei in eine Situation wo Dutzende bewaffnete aufeinander schießen und die müssen dann auch noch schießen. So ähnlich lief es ja bei dem Bikertreffen in Texas ab. Zwei geraten in Streit aber alle Anwesenden sind bewaffnet und ziehen und die Polizei schießt dann auch noch.
Ergo , dieses Argument, dass wenn alle bewaffnet sind so was nicht passieren kann ist grober unfug.
1. Ist nicht jeder der am Wochenende auf dem Schießstand bei guter Sicht auf Zielscheiben schießt, in der Lage mit seiner Waffe ein so komplexes Szenario zu beherrschen.
2. Ein Attentäter trägt keine Warnweste mit der Aufschrift Attentäter und deshalb macht sich jeder der eine Waffe in der Hand hat zum Ziel für Andere.
3. Gehört in der westlichen Welt der Genuss von Alkohol in solchen Etablissements oft dazu und jemand der schon das ein oder andere Bier im Schädel hat sollte nicht mehr zur Waffe greifen und am besten nicht mal eine dabei haben.
Wenn jeder eine Waffe hat, wird alles noch viel schlimmer.
Stell dir bitte die Situation vor. Es ist laut, eng,unübersichtlich und ggfs. Noch dunkel (Kino, Konzert, Nachtclubs etc. ) Jetzt fallen Schüsse Menschen fallen um,schreien, laufen und dann zieht jeder noch eine Waffe.
Was meinst du was dann passiert? Keiner weiß wer der oder die Täter sind . Man sieht nur etliche Typen mit Waffen rumfuchteln in einer ohnehin schon chaotischen Situation. Da wird es nicht lange dauern bis irgend einer meint einen Angreifer vor sich zu haben und schießen wird. Andere halten den dann für den Angreifer und schießen auch. So und dann kommt die Polizei in eine Situation wo Dutzende bewaffnete aufeinander schießen und die müssen dann auch noch schießen. So ähnlich lief es ja bei dem Bikertreffen in Texas ab. Zwei geraten in Streit aber alle Anwesenden sind bewaffnet und ziehen und die Polizei schießt dann auch noch.
Ergo , dieses Argument, dass wenn alle bewaffnet sind so was nicht passieren kann ist grober unfug.
1. Ist nicht jeder der am Wochenende auf dem Schießstand bei guter Sicht auf Zielscheiben schießt, in der Lage mit seiner Waffe ein so komplexes Szenario zu beherrschen.
2. Ein Attentäter trägt keine Warnweste mit der Aufschrift Attentäter und deshalb macht sich jeder der eine Waffe in der Hand hat zum Ziel für Andere.
3. Gehört in der westlichen Welt der Genuss von Alkohol in solchen Etablissements oft dazu und jemand der schon das ein oder andere Bier im Schädel hat sollte nicht mehr zur Waffe greifen und am besten nicht mal eine dabei haben.
Hab ich ja selber auch geschrieben.
Und glaub mir, ich hab mich mit der Materie schon oft befasst.
Ergo: man wird mich nicht in grossen Menschenmassen vorfinden.
Der Rest kann jeder für sich entscheiden.
Geschrieben von: Madner Kami 13. Jun 2016, 09:20
ZITAT(Almeran @ 12. Jun 2016, 19:31)
Bin gespannt, ob der Täter eher aus der "Alllahu Akbar" - oder der "God hates fags" -Ecke kommt.
Meinst du radikale Christen versus Islamist? Der Täter war Muslim, so viel ist klar. Davon abgesehen, kommt es doch aufs gleiche raus. Radikale Religioten sind doch alle gleich, egal ob evangelikale US-Christen oder Sharia-Musels aus Saudi-Arabien. Super auch der Kommentar der Frau des Täters:
ZITAT
Mateen was a normal husband at the beginning of their marriage but started abusing her after a few months, she said. She said Mateen was bipolar, although he was not formally diagnosed. She also said Mateen had a history with steroids. He was religious but she said she doesn't think his religion played in to the attack.
Quelle: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
Er folgt einer Religion, die "Fags" als Monster betrachtet und sie verteufelt, verdammt und als vernichtenswerten Feind zeichnet. Was, wenn nicht gerade sein Glaube hat ihn denn sonst dazu gebracht? Der Weihnachtsmann? Das Spagetthimonster? Außerirdische? Chemtrails? Der Kerl hat doch sogar bei 911 angerufen und sich zu ISIS bekannt! Sowieso, das letzte mal als ich meine atheistische Nichtbibel durchgelesen habe, habe ich jedenfalls keine Sure, keinen Vers und keine Hadithen finden können, in denen Andersdenkende und Andersorientierte derartig entmenschlicht werden. Solange solche Absätze in diesen "heiligen" Schriften stehen, ist die Religion per definitionem DIE Ursache und DAS Problem und der Unwille der religiösen Gemeinden sich dieser simplen Tatsache zu stellen, wird wieder und wieder zu genau solchen Tragödien führen.
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 13. Jun 2016, 09:29
Das Bekenntnis zum IS hat in meinen Augen nicht viel zu bedeuten, jedenfalls nicht im Hinblick auf irgendwelche Netzwerke. Der IS ermutigt zu solchen Taten und ist nicht wählerisch, was "Mitglieder" angeht... somit kann das Ganze auch ein täterseitiger Versuch sein, die eigene Tat und vor allem die eigene Person "aufzuwerten". Die Religion ist in dem Zusammenhang nur ein Feigenblatt oder auch eine letzte "Ermunterung". Der Mann ist für seine Tat gezielt eine lange Strecke zu diesem Club gefahren, was deutlich auf seine Zielgruppe hinweist... für einen "normalen" Anschlag hätte sich auch um die Ecke ein Club oder ne Mall finden lassen. Homophobie benötigt übrigens keine Religion, es gibt auch "rationale" Personen, die Homosexualität, bzw. was es noch an Trans-/Intersexualität gibt, grundsätzlich ablehnen... ohne rationale Gründe/Argumente dafür zu haben.
Geschrieben von: stavros 13. Jun 2016, 09:33
Und die Westboro Church ist schon voll am abfeiern. Bäh.
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 13. Jun 2016, 10:28
CNN berichtet, der Angreifer habe die Polizei angerufen und sich zu ISIS bekannt: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
Geschrieben von: Dave76 13. Jun 2016, 10:32
ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 13. Jun 2016, 11:28)
CNN berichtet, der Angreifer habe die Polizei angerufen und sich zu ISIS bekannt: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
*hust*
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 12. Jun 2016, 20:49)
ZITAT
[...]
In the midst of the attack, Mateen called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS, according to two law enforcement officials.
[...]
In the midst of the attack, Mateen called 911 and pledged his allegiance to ISIS, according to two law enforcement officials.
[...]
Geschrieben von: Dave76 13. Jun 2016, 10:56
ZITAT(SailorGN @ 13. Jun 2016, 10:29)
Das Bekenntnis zum IS hat in meinen Augen nicht viel zu bedeuten, jedenfalls nicht im Hinblick auf irgendwelche Netzwerke. Der IS ermutigt zu solchen Taten und ist nicht wählerisch, was "Mitglieder" angeht... somit kann das Ganze auch ein täterseitiger Versuch sein, die eigene Tat und vor allem die eigene Person "aufzuwerten". Die Religion ist in dem Zusammenhang nur ein Feigenblatt oder auch eine letzte "Ermunterung". Der Mann ist für seine Tat gezielt eine lange Strecke zu diesem Club gefahren, was deutlich auf seine Zielgruppe hinweist... für einen "normalen" Anschlag hätte sich auch um die Ecke ein Club oder ne Mall finden lassen. Homophobie benötigt übrigens keine Religion, es gibt auch "rationale" Personen, die Homosexualität, bzw. was es noch an Trans-/Intersexualität gibt, grundsätzlich ablehnen... ohne rationale Gründe/Argumente dafür zu haben.
Ja, im Hinblick auf mögliche direkte Verbindungen zu ISIS oder deren Netzwerke vielleicht (wober es ja durchaus Kontakte zum amerikanischen Selbstmordattentäter Moner Mohammad Abusalha gegeben haben soll). Dass die Religion nur eine Schutzbehauptung sei, ist allerdings reine Spekulation deinerseits, es könnte ja genauso sein, dass der radikale Islam erst den entscheidenden Push in Richtung einer solchen grausamen Tat gegeben hat. Das Problem hierbei ist, dass wir zu diesem Zeitpunkt (und vielleicht auch niemals) mit Sicherheit sagen können, ob die Homophobie zuerst da war, der (radikale?) Islam nur als Verstärker dessen diente, oder sie sogar erst auslöste (Henne und Ei). Fakt ist jedenfalls, dass wohl bis gestern so gut wie keiner, der mehr oder minder latentem homophoben Gedankengut anhängt, mit einem Sturmgewehr eine möglicht große Menge dieser Menschen versucht hat zu ermorden, dies scheint bis jetzt eher ein eindeutiges Merkmal der Gruppe der radikalisierten islamistischen Terroristen zu sein (Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel, siehe Breivik). Selbst ohne 'direkten Befehl aus Raqqa' bleibt aber die Inspiration und Berufungsquelle in Form des real existierenden 'islamischen Staates' samt seiner vergifteten und menschenfeindlichen Ideologie/Religion als gefährlicher möglicher Motivationsgeber bestehen und muss alleine deshalb zerstört werden.
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 13. Jun 2016, 12:45
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-pride-la-weapons-20160612-snap-story.html
Wie es aussieht hatte wohl jemand von der anderen Feldpostnummer das gleiche in LA auf der Gayparade vor.
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 13. Jun 2016, 12:54
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 13. Jun 2016, 10:56)
Dass die Religion nur eine Schutzbehauptung sei, ist allerdings reine Spekulation deinerseits, es könnte ja genauso sein, dass der radikale Islam erst den entscheidenden Push in Richtung einer solchen grausamen Tat gegeben hat. Das Problem hierbei ist, dass wir zu diesem Zeitpunkt (und vielleicht auch niemals) mit Sicherheit sagen können, ob die Homophobie zuerst da war, der (radikale?) Islam nur als Verstärker dessen diente, oder sie sogar erst auslöste (Henne und Ei). Fakt ist jedenfalls, dass wohl bis gestern so gut wie keiner, der mehr oder minder latentem homophoben Gedankengut anhängt, mit einem Sturmgewehr eine möglicht große Menge dieser Menschen versucht hat zu ermorden, dies scheint bis jetzt eher ein eindeutiges Merkmal der Gruppe der radikalisierten islamistischen Terroristen zu sein (Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel, siehe Breivik). Selbst ohne 'direkten Befehl aus Raqqa' bleibt aber die Inspiration und Berufungsquelle in Form des real existierenden 'islamischen Staates' samt seiner vergifteten und menschenfeindlichen Ideologie/Religion als gefährlicher möglicher Motivationsgeber bestehen und muss alleine deshalb zerstört werden.
Vollkommen richtig. Homophobie ist fester Bestandteil jeder konservativen und fundamentalistischen Interpretation der drei monotheistischen Weltreligionen, wobei nur fundamentalistische Muslime versuchen, die von ihnen gehassten Gruppierungen zu ermorden.
ZITAT
Gleichzeitig rufen viele dazu auf, den Zusammenhang zwischen Islamismus und Schwulenhass nicht unter den Teppich zu kehren. In Deutschland äußerte sich der religionspolitische Sprecher der Grünen, Volker Beck, und kritisierte die bisherigen Debatte. „Es verwundert etwas, wenn in der Berichterstattung der homophobe Hintergrund der Tat als Alternative zum islamistischen oder terroristischen Hintergrund der Tat diskutiert wird“. Homophobie sei ein integraler Bestandteil des Islamismus. Aus Becks Sicht war es „sicher kein Zufall, dass in Orlando ausgerechnet ein Gay-Club Ziel des Attentats wurde“. [...]
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/reaktionen-auf-das-attentat-von-orlando-in-einem-nachtclub-14284263.html#GEPC;s6
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/reaktionen-auf-das-attentat-von-orlando-in-einem-nachtclub-14284263.html#GEPC;s6
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 13. Jun 2016, 13:21
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/31/world/middleeast/man-attacks-gay-pride-marchers-in-jerusalem-for-second-time-police-say.html?_r=0
Geschrieben von: Nite 13. Jun 2016, 13:28
ZITAT(Freestyler @ 13. Jun 2016, 13:54)
Vollkommen richtig. Homophobie ist fester Bestandteil jeder konservativen und fundamentalistischen Interpretation der drei monotheistischen Weltreligionen, wobei nur fundamentalistische Muslime versuchen, die von ihnen gehassten Gruppierungen zu ermorden.
In Afrika, besonders unrühmliches Beispiel ist hier Uganda, sind Lynchmorde an Homosexuellen durch fundamentalistische Christen nicht so selten. Noch schlimmer ist die Situation in Jamaika, wobei man hier jetzt natürlich diskutieren kann inwieweit man die Rastafaris als "fundamentalistisch" bezeichnen kann.
Geschrieben von: Freestyler 13. Jun 2016, 14:07
Mir war zwar bekannt, dass es dort einen erhebliche Ablehnung bis Hass von Homosexuellen gibt, aber von Lynchmorden war mir bisher nichts bekannt.
Geschrieben von: Dave76 13. Jun 2016, 14:14
ZITAT(SailorGN @ 13. Jun 2016, 14:21)
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/31/world/middleeast/man-attacks-gay-pride-marchers-in-jerusalem-for-second-time-police-say.html?_r=0
Und, war hier die fundamentalistische Auslegung der Religion auch nur ein 'Feigenblatt'? Man könnte hier genau die selben Fragen stellen, wie ich es auch im Falle des aktuellen Täters getan habe. Ich würde das ja gar nicht ausschließlich auf den radikalen Islam beschränken (auch wenn mein obiger Post vielleicht in diese Richtung interpretiert werden könnte), ich halte jegliche fundamentalistische oder auch orthodoxe Auslegung einer Religion, Ideologie oder sonstigen Weltanschaung für potenziell gefährlich und den Grundgedanken der Aufklärung diametral entgegengesetzt. Man könnte sich jetzt halt fragen, warum gerade zur Zeit der radikale Islam prädestiniert und so prominent in solche Vorgänge involviert zu sein scheint.
Geschrieben von: Nite 13. Jun 2016, 14:48
ZITAT(Freestyler @ 13. Jun 2016, 15:07)
Mir war zwar bekannt, dass es dort einen erhebliche Ablehnung bis Hass von Homosexuellen gibt, aber von Lynchmorden war mir bisher nichts bekannt.
Ein paar Zahlen, auch wenn sie leider wenig ins Detail gehen: http://www.crisis.acleddata.com/homosexuality-and-discrimination-in-africa/, und die fundamentalistische Verbindung: http://www.thenation.com/article/its-not-just-uganda-behind-christian-rights-onslaught-africa/.
Geschrieben von: Schneeball 13. Jun 2016, 15:00
ZITAT(Nite @ 13. Jun 2016, 14:28)
ZITAT(Freestyler @ 13. Jun 2016, 13:54)
Vollkommen richtig. Homophobie ist fester Bestandteil jeder konservativen und fundamentalistischen Interpretation der drei monotheistischen Weltreligionen, wobei nur fundamentalistische Muslime versuchen, die von ihnen gehassten Gruppierungen zu ermorden.
In Afrika, besonders unrühmliches Beispiel ist hier Uganda, sind Lynchmorde an Homosexuellen durch fundamentalistische Christen nicht so selten. Noch schlimmer ist die Situation in Jamaika, wobei man hier jetzt natürlich diskutieren kann inwieweit man die Rastafaris als "fundamentalistisch" bezeichnen kann.
Es gibt / gab auch in den USA immer wieder fundemantale Christen, die im Namen Gottes gemordet haben. Stellvertretend dafür eine Meldung:
"Der Angeklagte zeigte keine Reue vor Gericht: Scott Roeder erschoss im Mai 2009 den Arzt George Tiller, der auf Abtreibungen im fortgeschrittenen Stadium spezialisiert war. Als Grund führte der Täter seine "christlichen Überzeugungen" an. Jetzt droht ihm lebenslange Haft."
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/mord-an-abtreibungsarzt-todesschuetze-schuldig-gesprochen-a-674940.html
Homosexuelle sind ja leider auch in unserer Gesellschaft noch keine vollwertigen Mitglieder, so dürfen sie zB. hier weder heiraten, noch Kinder adoptieren oder Blut spenden. Es gibt auch in so genannt "aufgeklärten" Regierungen noch sehr viel Arbeit.
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 13. Jun 2016, 15:11
Der von mit verlinkte Artikel berichtet doch explizit von einem potentiellen christlichen Täter, den mam wohl als einen konservativen Redneck bezeichnen kann. Der wird wohl kaum den ganzen Weg aus Indiana nach LA zur Gayparade gefahren sein um mit seinem Waffen und Sprengstoff Arsenal die Teilnehmer vor eventuellem Atentätern zu schützen.
Gewalt gegen Homosexuelle ist gerade in Amerikaner kein ausschließlich islamisches Problem.
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 13. Jun 2016, 15:16
@Dave: Ich stelle die Verbindungen zwischen extremistischer Auslegung entsprechender Literaturstellen, extremistischer Lebenseinstellung und gewaltsamer Homophobie gar nicht in Frage. Es wurde heute nur berichtet, dass der Täter nach Aussage seiner Eltern eben bisher nicht besonders religiös war. "Normalerweise" würde man bei einer entsprechenden Radikalisierung auch ein öffentlich sichtbares Eintreten für andere Aspekte der extremistischen Auslegung der jeweiligen Religion erwarten. Der jüdisch-orthodoxe Täter hat seine Glaubensauslegung deutlich kundgetan (und war Wiederholungstäter).
Geschrieben von: Dave76 13. Jun 2016, 15:41
ZITAT(SailorGN @ 13. Jun 2016, 16:16)
[...] Es wurde heute nur berichtet, dass der Täter nach Aussage seiner Eltern eben bisher nicht besonders religiös war. "Normalerweise" würde man bei einer entsprechenden Radikalisierung auch ein öffentlich sichtbares Eintreten für andere Aspekte der extremistischen Auslegung der jeweiligen Religion erwarten. Der jüdisch-orthodoxe Täter hat seine Glaubensauslegung deutlich kundgetan (und war Wiederholungstäter).
Man kann sich auch (oder gerade) im Stillen radikalisieren, nur weil er seine Gedanken nicht ständig offensiv vor sich her trug, heißt das nicht im Umkehrschluss, dass keine Radikalisierung stattgefunden hat. Zur Aussage der Eltern: wie oft ist es denn nun schon in der letzten Zeit vorgekommen, dass die Eltern von radikal-islamisierten jungen Erwachsenen sich vollkommen überrascht ob dieser Entwicklung zeigten ('davon wussten wir nichts'), davon ab gab es ja auch im aktuellen Fall vorher schon Untersuchungen des FBIs in solche Richtungen:
"The FBI first became aware of Mateen in 2013 when he made inflammatory comments to co-workers alleging possible terrorist ties," [Assistant Special Agent in Charge Ronald] Hopper said.
Wir wissen einfach zur Zeit zu wenig, um da definitive Aussagen treffen zu können, schauen wir mal, was die Ermittlungen ergeben, letztendlich können wir aber nicht in den Kopf eines solchen Attentäters schauen.
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 13. Jun 2016, 15:45
Genau, weshalb ich versucht habe, meine jetzige persönliche Meinung darzustellen
Geschrieben von: Xizor 13. Jun 2016, 16:53
ZITAT(Kampfhamster @ 12. Jun 2016, 20:07)
Nachtclubs sind "waffenfreie" Zonen
Im Pulse war trotzdem ein Bewaffneter der gegengehalten hat.
"An armed security guard, who was an Orlando Police Department (OPD) officer working extra duty in full uniform,[6] engaged Mateen, returning fire at 2:02 a.m. EDT.[7][8] Mateen was able to enter the building, however, and began shooting patrons just as last call was being announced.[3][9][8] About 320 people were in the club at the time.[3] The officer was soon joined by two additional officers who also began engaging Mateen. Mateen then retreated further into the nightclub and began to take patrons hostage."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Orlando_nightclub_shooting
Geschrieben von: schießmuskel 13. Jun 2016, 17:17
Als Terrorist hat man es in Europa auch recht schwer an Kriegswaffen zu kommen. Da muss man die richtigen Leute kennen und/oder in Süd/Osteuropa auf dem Schwarzmarkt die Waffen kaufen und über mehrere Grenzen bringen. So etwas fällt dann mal der Polizei oder Diensten auf oder man kommt in eine Kontrolle etc. In den USA braucht man nur zum lokalen Waffenladen gehen und kann sich einfach einen 12 Gage Selbstlader, eine 45er longslide mit Laserlicht, eine Uzi 9mm, ein Armalite AR 18 und ein Plasmagewehr mit einer 40er Reichweite, ok das nicht. Aber ansonsten ist es viel zu einfach für einen Terroristen oder Amokläufer sich mit Waffen auszustatten.
Geschrieben von: Dave76 13. Jun 2016, 19:03
ZITAT
FBI Director Comey: "highly confident" Orlando shooter radicalized through internet
FBI Director James Comey on Monday echoed President Obama's statement that the Orlando shooting was not a plot directed from outside the United States and he also outlined the agency's previous interactions with the shooter.
"So far, we see no indication that this was a plot directed from outside the United States and we see no indication that he was part of any kind of network," Comey told reporters.
The intelligence community, Comey said, is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the Internet."
[...]
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-director-comey-highly-confident-orlando-shooter-radicalized-through-internet/
FBI Director James Comey on Monday echoed President Obama's statement that the Orlando shooting was not a plot directed from outside the United States and he also outlined the agency's previous interactions with the shooter.
"So far, we see no indication that this was a plot directed from outside the United States and we see no indication that he was part of any kind of network," Comey told reporters.
The intelligence community, Comey said, is "highly confident that this killer was radicalized at least in part through the Internet."
[...]
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-director-comey-highly-confident-orlando-shooter-radicalized-through-internet/
Geschrieben von: Glorfindel 14. Jun 2016, 08:22
Ich bin der Meinung, dass der Vergleich mit angeblich "christlichem Terrorismus" sehr weit hergeholt ist. Es gibt keinen mit dem islamistischen Terror vergleichbaren "christlichen Terrorismus".
Es geht weiter mit Einzeltäterterror, welcher sich auf den IS beruft:
Ein Mann hat bei Paris einen Polizisten getötet und sich mit dessen Familie verschanzt. Dabei berief er sich auf den IS. Spezialeinheiten erschossen den Angreifer, in der Wohnung fanden sie eine tote Frau und ein unverletztes Kind.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/frankreich-polizei-toetet-geiselnehmer-und-polizistenmoerder-in-magnanville-a-1097455.html
Geschrieben von: Almeran 14. Jun 2016, 08:36
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/orlando-mateen-101.html
Da ist wohl jemand nicht so ganz mit dem Widerspruch zwischen seiner gefühlten Sexualität und seiner Religion klar gekommen. Da kann man dann entweder der Religion abschwören und seine Sexualität ausleben oder noch religiöser werden und alle hassen, die offen leben können. Aber gut, die lautesten Homophoben sind ja meistens die, die Angst haben selber schwul zu sein.
Geschrieben von: Glorfindel 14. Jun 2016, 09:02
Dies erstaunt mich nicht wirklich, da ich mir so was eigentlich schon gedacht habe. Es muss ja irgendeinen Grund geben für diesen Hass auf Homosexuelle (offenbar hat der Attentäter aber auch Frauen gehasst). Es ist ja eher ein spezielles Anschlagsziel.
Geschrieben von: Dave76 14. Jun 2016, 09:42
ZITAT(Almeran @ 14. Jun 2016, 09:36)
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/orlando-mateen-101.html
Direkt aus dem Untertitel:
"War der Attentäter von Orlando ein fanatischer Anhänger des IS oder ein Einzeltäter?"
Warum immer wieder diese simplifizierende Kontravalenz? Ist mir jetzt schon in einigen Artikeln aufgefallen, ich halte das, wie schon weiter oben ausgeführt, für ein seltsam eingeschränktes Denken, man kann sehr wohl Einzeltäter sein und gleichzeitig Fanatiker.
Geschrieben von: Almeran 14. Jun 2016, 10:01
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 14. Jun 2016, 10:42)
ZITAT(Almeran @ 14. Jun 2016, 09:36)
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/orlando-mateen-101.html
Direkt aus dem Untertitel:
"War der Attentäter von Orlando ein fanatischer Anhänger des IS oder ein Einzeltäter?"
Warum immer wieder diese simplifiziernde Kontravalenz? Ist mir jetzt schon in einigen Artikeln aufgefallen, ich halte das, wie schon weiter oben ausgeführt, für ein seltsam eingeschränktes Denken, man kann sehr wohl Einzeltäter sein und gleichzeitig Fanatiker.
Ich glaube die Unterscheidung ist hier zwischen "Zentral geplant mit dem Go aus Raqqa" und "Irgendjemand hat zu viele Youtube-Videos gesehen". Für sonderlich hilfreich halte ich sie allerdings auch nicht, das Ergebnis bleibt gleich.
Geschrieben von: Glorfindel 14. Jun 2016, 10:30
Wobei es ja durchaus auch die Radikalisierung durchs Internet existiert. Auch wenn Einzelpersonen radikalisiert werden, so hat die Radikalisierung über das Internet ein System. Durch ein bisschen zu viel Youtube wird man ja nicht zum Fanatiker.
Geschrieben von: Nite 14. Jun 2016, 12:19
ZITAT(Almeran @ 14. Jun 2016, 11:01)
Ich glaube die Unterscheidung ist hier zwischen "Zentral geplant mit dem Go aus Raqqa" und "Irgendjemand hat zu viele Youtube-Videos gesehen". Für sonderlich hilfreich halte ich sie allerdings auch nicht, das Ergebnis bleibt gleich.
Für die Terrorismus-Bekämpfung ist diese Unterscheidung durchaus relevant. Bei der Einbindung in ein Netzwerk gibt es Kommunikation, Kontaktpersonen, Hintermänner etc., alles potentielle Ansatzpunkte für polizeiliche und nachrichtendienstliche Ermittlungen. All dies fällt bei einem Einzeltäter weg.
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 14. Jun 2016, 12:43
Die Sache mit der Radikalisierung per Internet ist in meinen Augen ein Knackpunkt, denn man kann sich dort auch "passiv" (d.h. durch reinen Konsum OHNE Interaktion mit anderen) radikalisieren. Wer immer nur entsprechende Videos, Feeds, Tweets, News liest kommt immer tiefer rein... und moderne "Neigungsalgorythmen" verstärken das Ganze noch... Die gibts ja mittlerweile bei jeder Seite^^
Geschrieben von: Almeran 14. Jun 2016, 13:13
ZITAT(SailorGN @ 14. Jun 2016, 13:43)
Die Sache mit der Radikalisierung per Internet ist in meinen Augen ein Knackpunkt, denn man kann sich dort auch "passiv" (d.h. durch reinen Konsum OHNE Interaktion mit anderen) radikalisieren. Wer immer nur entsprechende Videos, Feeds, Tweets, News liest kommt immer tiefer rein... und moderne "Neigungsalgorythmen" verstärken das Ganze noch... Die gibts ja mittlerweile bei jeder Seite^^
Kombinier das noch mit einem ordentlich Schuss Selbsthass und fertig ist der perfekte Attentäter.
Geschrieben von: Schwabo Elite 14. Jun 2016, 16:31
ZITAT(Almeran @ 14. Jun 2016, 11:01)
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 14. Jun 2016, 10:42)
ZITAT(Almeran @ 14. Jun 2016, 09:36)
http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/orlando-mateen-101.html
Direkt aus dem Untertitel:
"War der Attentäter von Orlando ein fanatischer Anhänger des IS oder ein Einzeltäter?"
Warum immer wieder diese simplifiziernde Kontravalenz? Ist mir jetzt schon in einigen Artikeln aufgefallen, ich halte das, wie schon weiter oben ausgeführt, für ein seltsam eingeschränktes Denken, man kann sehr wohl Einzeltäter sein und gleichzeitig Fanatiker.
Ich glaube die Unterscheidung ist hier zwischen "Zentral geplant mit dem Go aus Raqqa" und "Irgendjemand hat zu viele Youtube-Videos gesehen". Für sonderlich hilfreich halte ich sie allerdings auch nicht, das Ergebnis bleibt gleich.
Zumal das ja gerne zusammengeht. Zuerst ein paar Videos gucken, dann vom FBI berhört werden, weitere Radikalisierung, dann ruft Raqqa an - oder einer der ihren in der Nähe - und dann wird der Heini losgeschickt. Am Ende sagt Raqqa dann "waren wir".
Geschrieben von: Dave76 22. Jun 2016, 18:34
ZITAT
June 17: U.S. Central Command announces Yemen counterterrorism strikes
TAMPA, Fla. — The U.S. military conducted three counterterrorism strikes against al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula June 8-12 in central Yemen, killing six al-Qa'ida operatives and injuring one.
A strike June 8 in al Badya Governorate resulted in the deaths of two al-Qa'ida operatives along with the destruction of their vehicle loaded with weapons. Another strike conducted June 10 in Marib Governorate killed two al-Qaida operatives. Finally, a strike June 12 in Shabwah Governorate killed two more al-Qa'ida operatives, injured another, and destroyed the vehicle they were travelling in.
AQAP remains a significant threat to the region, the United States and beyond. Al-Qa'ida's presence has a destabilizing effect on Yemen, and it is using the unrest in Yemen to provide a haven from which to plan future attacks against our allies as well as the U.S. and its interests.
The U.S. will not relent in its mission to degrade, disrupt and destroy al-Qa'ida and its remnants. We remain committed to defeating AQAP and denying it safe haven regardless of its location. Strikes conducted by the U.S. in Yemen continue to diminish AQAP's presence in the region.
TAMPA, Fla. — The U.S. military conducted three counterterrorism strikes against al-Qa'ida in the Arabian Peninsula June 8-12 in central Yemen, killing six al-Qa'ida operatives and injuring one.
A strike June 8 in al Badya Governorate resulted in the deaths of two al-Qa'ida operatives along with the destruction of their vehicle loaded with weapons. Another strike conducted June 10 in Marib Governorate killed two al-Qaida operatives. Finally, a strike June 12 in Shabwah Governorate killed two more al-Qa'ida operatives, injured another, and destroyed the vehicle they were travelling in.
AQAP remains a significant threat to the region, the United States and beyond. Al-Qa'ida's presence has a destabilizing effect on Yemen, and it is using the unrest in Yemen to provide a haven from which to plan future attacks against our allies as well as the U.S. and its interests.
The U.S. will not relent in its mission to degrade, disrupt and destroy al-Qa'ida and its remnants. We remain committed to defeating AQAP and denying it safe haven regardless of its location. Strikes conducted by the U.S. in Yemen continue to diminish AQAP's presence in the region.
http://www.centcom.mil/news/press-release/june-17-u.s.-central-command-announces-yemen-counterterrorism-strikes
Geschrieben von: Dave76 26. Nov 2016, 17:21
ZITAT
Obama administration expands elite military unit’s powers to hunt foreign fighters globally
By Thomas Gibbons-Neff and Dan Lamothe - November 25
The Obama administration is giving the elite Joint Special Operations Command — the organization that helped kill Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid by Navy SEALs — expanded power to track, plan and potentially launch attacks on terrorist cells around the globe, a move driven by concerns of a dispersed terrorist threat as Islamic State militants are driven from strongholds in Iraq and Syria, U.S. officials said.
The missions could occur well beyond the battlefields of places like Iraq, Syria and Libya where Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) has carried out clandestine operations in the past. When finalized, it will elevate JSOC from being a highly-valued strike tool used by regional military commands to leading a new multiagency intelligence and action force. Known as the “Counter-External Operations Task Force,” the group will be designed to take JSOC’s targeting model — honed over the last 15 years of conflict — and export it globally to go after terrorist networks plotting attacks against the West.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/11/25/obama-administration-expands-elite-military-units-powers-to-hunt-foreign-fighters-globally/
By Thomas Gibbons-Neff and Dan Lamothe - November 25
The Obama administration is giving the elite Joint Special Operations Command — the organization that helped kill Osama bin Laden in a 2011 raid by Navy SEALs — expanded power to track, plan and potentially launch attacks on terrorist cells around the globe, a move driven by concerns of a dispersed terrorist threat as Islamic State militants are driven from strongholds in Iraq and Syria, U.S. officials said.
The missions could occur well beyond the battlefields of places like Iraq, Syria and Libya where Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) has carried out clandestine operations in the past. When finalized, it will elevate JSOC from being a highly-valued strike tool used by regional military commands to leading a new multiagency intelligence and action force. Known as the “Counter-External Operations Task Force,” the group will be designed to take JSOC’s targeting model — honed over the last 15 years of conflict — and export it globally to go after terrorist networks plotting attacks against the West.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/11/25/obama-administration-expands-elite-military-units-powers-to-hunt-foreign-fighters-globally/
Geschrieben von: Dave76 29. Nov 2016, 18:43
ZITAT
French strike thought to kill Al-Qaeda ally Belmokhtar
Laurent BARTHELEMY
AFP- November 28, 2016
Washington (AFP) - One-eyed hostage killer Mokhtar Belmokhtar, one of Al-Qaeda's most notorious allies in North Africa, was said Monday to have been slain in a French air strike.
A US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed a report in the Wall Street Journal that US intelligence helped France target the veteran jihadist.
The news came as French defense minister Jean-Yves Le Drian was in Washington for talks with his US counterpart Secretary of Defense Ash Carter.
But neither top official confirmed the strike, said to have taken place in southern Libya earlier this month.
The Algerian militant, commander of an Al-Qaeda-linked faction of the Al-Murabitoun group, has been reported killed on several previous occasions.
But the official told AFP the latest strike is believed to have finally hit the elusive militant, once known for kidnapping Europeans for multimillion dollar ransoms.
According to the Wall Street Journal report, citing experts and unnamed officials, the strike reflects closer US and French intelligence cooperation.
After November 2015, Islamist attacks on Paris left 130 dead, US President Barack Obama announced promised that closer intelligence cooperation with Paris would begin.
Belmokhtar became one of the world's most wanted men in 2013 after a spectacular assault on the In Amenas gas plant in Algeria left at least 38 hostages dead.
This year, his group claimed responsibility for an attack on a luxury hotel in Burkina Faso that killed another 20 people, most of them foreigners.
And reports he had arrived in Libya have fuelled concern that jihadists will take advantage of the political turmoil there to establish a base of operations.
Washington put a $5 million bounty on the 44-year-old's head, dubbing him the leader of the Khaled Abu al-Abbas Brigade, also known as the "Signatories in Blood."
In May last year, he insisted that Al-Murabitoun remains loyal to Al-Qaeda, despite another of its leaders pledging allegiance the Islamic State group.
Belmokhtar was born on June 1, 1972 in the ancient desert city of Ghardaia, 370 miles (600 kilometers) south of the Algerian capital.
- 'Mister Marlboro' -
In a rare 2007 interview he said he joined the mujahideen rebels fighting the Soviet forces in Afghanistan in 1991 when he was barely 19 years old.
In Afghanistan, he claimed, he lost an eye to shrapnel and had his first contact with the group that became Al-Qaeda, eventually rising to a senior position.
He returned to Algeria in 1993, a year after the Algiers government sparked civil war by cancelling an election that an Islamist party was poised to win.
He joined the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), and thrived thanks to his intimate knowledge of the remote deserts of southern Algeria, northern Mali and Niger.
In 1998 the "Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat" (GSPC) broke from the GIA and Belmokhtar went with them.
Nine years later, GSPC formally adopted the global ideology of Saudi-born jihadist kingpin Osama bin Laden and renamed itself Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
Belmokhtar was best known as a smuggler, known by some as "Mister Marlboro" for trafficking cigarettes.
But in 2013 he emerged as the hardline leader of the "Signatories in Blood," blamed for attacks across the Sahara and the Sahel in Algeria, Mali, Chad and Niger.
The group is one of several Islamist units roaming the scarcely governed wastelands of the Sahel, smuggling goods and people and attacking Western targets.
Laurent BARTHELEMY
AFP- November 28, 2016
Washington (AFP) - One-eyed hostage killer Mokhtar Belmokhtar, one of Al-Qaeda's most notorious allies in North Africa, was said Monday to have been slain in a French air strike.
A US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed a report in the Wall Street Journal that US intelligence helped France target the veteran jihadist.
The news came as French defense minister Jean-Yves Le Drian was in Washington for talks with his US counterpart Secretary of Defense Ash Carter.
But neither top official confirmed the strike, said to have taken place in southern Libya earlier this month.
The Algerian militant, commander of an Al-Qaeda-linked faction of the Al-Murabitoun group, has been reported killed on several previous occasions.
But the official told AFP the latest strike is believed to have finally hit the elusive militant, once known for kidnapping Europeans for multimillion dollar ransoms.
According to the Wall Street Journal report, citing experts and unnamed officials, the strike reflects closer US and French intelligence cooperation.
After November 2015, Islamist attacks on Paris left 130 dead, US President Barack Obama announced promised that closer intelligence cooperation with Paris would begin.
Belmokhtar became one of the world's most wanted men in 2013 after a spectacular assault on the In Amenas gas plant in Algeria left at least 38 hostages dead.
This year, his group claimed responsibility for an attack on a luxury hotel in Burkina Faso that killed another 20 people, most of them foreigners.
And reports he had arrived in Libya have fuelled concern that jihadists will take advantage of the political turmoil there to establish a base of operations.
Washington put a $5 million bounty on the 44-year-old's head, dubbing him the leader of the Khaled Abu al-Abbas Brigade, also known as the "Signatories in Blood."
In May last year, he insisted that Al-Murabitoun remains loyal to Al-Qaeda, despite another of its leaders pledging allegiance the Islamic State group.
Belmokhtar was born on June 1, 1972 in the ancient desert city of Ghardaia, 370 miles (600 kilometers) south of the Algerian capital.
- 'Mister Marlboro' -
In a rare 2007 interview he said he joined the mujahideen rebels fighting the Soviet forces in Afghanistan in 1991 when he was barely 19 years old.
In Afghanistan, he claimed, he lost an eye to shrapnel and had his first contact with the group that became Al-Qaeda, eventually rising to a senior position.
He returned to Algeria in 1993, a year after the Algiers government sparked civil war by cancelling an election that an Islamist party was poised to win.
He joined the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), and thrived thanks to his intimate knowledge of the remote deserts of southern Algeria, northern Mali and Niger.
In 1998 the "Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat" (GSPC) broke from the GIA and Belmokhtar went with them.
Nine years later, GSPC formally adopted the global ideology of Saudi-born jihadist kingpin Osama bin Laden and renamed itself Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
Belmokhtar was best known as a smuggler, known by some as "Mister Marlboro" for trafficking cigarettes.
But in 2013 he emerged as the hardline leader of the "Signatories in Blood," blamed for attacks across the Sahara and the Sahel in Algeria, Mali, Chad and Niger.
The group is one of several Islamist units roaming the scarcely governed wastelands of the Sahel, smuggling goods and people and attacking Western targets.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/french-strike-likely-killed-al-qaeda-ally-belmokhtar-154614992.html
Geschrieben von: Kameratt 6. May 2017, 16:54
ZITAT
Navy SEAL Killed in Somalia in First U.S. Combat Death There Since 1993
By HELENE COOPER, CHARLIE SAVAGE and ERIC SCHMITTMAY 5, 2017
WASHINGTON — A member of the Navy SEALs was killed and two other American service members were wounded in a raid in Somalia on Friday, the first American combat fatality there since the 1993 “Black Hawk Down” battle.
The combat death was another milestone in the United States’ escalating involvement in a war against Islamist militants called the Shabab and showed the difficulty of fighting in the Horn of Africa country, where drought and famine have heightened chaos.
Yet the episode highlighted a deepening anomaly: The United States Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Somalia, has yet to act on new authority from President Trump freeing it from Obama-era constraints on strikes against the Shabab. The commando’s death came during a Somali military operation, not an American one.
[...]
By HELENE COOPER, CHARLIE SAVAGE and ERIC SCHMITTMAY 5, 2017
WASHINGTON — A member of the Navy SEALs was killed and two other American service members were wounded in a raid in Somalia on Friday, the first American combat fatality there since the 1993 “Black Hawk Down” battle.
The combat death was another milestone in the United States’ escalating involvement in a war against Islamist militants called the Shabab and showed the difficulty of fighting in the Horn of Africa country, where drought and famine have heightened chaos.
Yet the episode highlighted a deepening anomaly: The United States Africa Command, which oversees American military operations in Somalia, has yet to act on new authority from President Trump freeing it from Obama-era constraints on strikes against the Shabab. The commando’s death came during a Somali military operation, not an American one.
[...]
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/world/africa/navy-seal-killed-in-raid-against-islamic-militants-in-somalia.html?_r=0
Geschrieben von: Glorfindel 4. Jun 2017, 00:06
Drei Zwischenfälle heute Abend in London, u.a. soll ein Fahrzeug in Fussgänger gefahren sein.
Geschrieben von: Redeagle 9. Jun 2017, 08:43
Ich packs mal hier rein:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/umweltbundesamt-beklagt-vermuellung-deutscher-kuesten-der-morgen-live-a-1150320.html
Wenigstens konsequent, dass man daraus keinen Hehl macht was man davon hält, aber klar wenn man die IS "Jungs" finanziel austattet und fördert sowas durchzuziehen.....
Einfach schlimm das der Westen aus wirtschaftlichen Gründen SA so hofiert und in das Körperteil hineinkriecht wo die Sonne niemals reinscheint 
Geschrieben von: SailorGN 9. Jun 2017, 10:06
Interessanter Ansatz, den Extremisten theologisch entgegen zu treten:
http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/terror-anschlaege-ich-haette-einem-attentaeter-auch-das.886.de.html?dram:article_id=388206
Geschrieben von: Dave76 10. Jun 2017, 14:54
ZITAT
U.S. forces help end ISIS-linked siege that left 13 Philippine marines dead
"At the request of the government of the Philippines, U.S. special operations forces are assisting the (Armed Forces of the Philippines) with ongoing operations in Marawi that help AFP commanders on the ground in their fight against Maute and ASG militants," the U.S. Embassy in Manila said in a statement.
“The United States is a proud ally of the Philippines, and we will continue to work with the Philippines to address shared threats to the peace and security of our countries, including on counterterrorism issues,” the statement said.
The Maute group, also known as Islamic State Lanao, led the attack on Marawi which began on May 23 and has resulted in the deaths of 58 security forces, 20 civilians and around 138 militant fighters.
[...]
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/10/u-s-forces-helping-end-isis-linked-siege-left-13-philippine-marines-dead-40-wounded/386412001/
"At the request of the government of the Philippines, U.S. special operations forces are assisting the (Armed Forces of the Philippines) with ongoing operations in Marawi that help AFP commanders on the ground in their fight against Maute and ASG militants," the U.S. Embassy in Manila said in a statement.
“The United States is a proud ally of the Philippines, and we will continue to work with the Philippines to address shared threats to the peace and security of our countries, including on counterterrorism issues,” the statement said.
The Maute group, also known as Islamic State Lanao, led the attack on Marawi which began on May 23 and has resulted in the deaths of 58 security forces, 20 civilians and around 138 militant fighters.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/06/10/u-s-forces-helping-end-isis-linked-siege-left-13-philippine-marines-dead-40-wounded/386412001/
Geschrieben von: Markus11 14. Jun 2017, 13:32
Ich pack das mal hier rein:
SAS Leute verkleiden sich als Obdachlose, um schnell auf Terroranschläge reagieren zu können:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4601958/Armed-SAS-troops-disguised-tramps.html
Falls es stimmt, nicht unbedingt der beste Schachzug diese Taktik zu verraten.
Geschrieben von: Kameratt 14. Jun 2017, 15:49
Da habe ich gleich zwei Assoziationen.
Einmal die Killer-Penner aus dem letzten John Wick und nocheinmal Jason Statham, der in irgendeinem seiner Filme einen ehemaligen Elitesoldaten, der auf den Straßen Londons als Obdachloser lebt, spielt.
Geschrieben von: 400plus 14. Jun 2017, 15:53
Bei Clancys "Gnadenlos" gibt's die Idee auch
Geschrieben von: Crazy Butcher 14. Jun 2017, 16:29
Man kann die Idee weiterspinnen und sich als Obdachlose verkleidete Terroristen vorstellen 
Geschrieben von: xena 14. Jun 2017, 17:58
Zumindest als Frauen verkleidete Terroristen gab es schon. Das wäre doch ein handfester Grund die Vollverschleierung in islamischen Ländern zu verbieten...
Geschrieben von: Arado-234 15. Jun 2017, 16:01
ZITAT
Zumindest als Frauen verkleidete Terroristen gab es schon.
Ja gabs schon und wird es weiter geben.
Solange aber die Infrarotstrahlung die heißen Gewehre verraten, sind diese angeblichen Zivilisten klare Ziele.
Was man mit den Zielen dann macht ist eine andere Sache.
Geschrieben von: Hummingbird 8. Aug 2017, 18:54
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U.S. troops are on the ground in Yemen for offensive against al-Qaeda militants
A contingent of U.S. troops is involved in a Yemeni operation to push al-Qaeda militants from one of their key strongholds in central Yemen, the Pentagon said Friday.
A small number of troops are there to help with “intelligence sharing,” Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said, though he did not rule out that more U.S. forces could be committed to the operation in the coming weeks.
The announcement comes a day after the United Arab Emirates said in a statement that its forces, along with U.S. troops, were supporting the Yemeni military in the Shabwa governorate in a bid to oust al-Qaeda fighters entrenched there.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/08/04/u-s-troops-are-on-the-ground-in-yemen-for-offensive-against-al-qaeda-militants/?utm_term=.f6023aa5c8e2A contingent of U.S. troops is involved in a Yemeni operation to push al-Qaeda militants from one of their key strongholds in central Yemen, the Pentagon said Friday.
A small number of troops are there to help with “intelligence sharing,” Pentagon spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis said, though he did not rule out that more U.S. forces could be committed to the operation in the coming weeks.
The announcement comes a day after the United Arab Emirates said in a statement that its forces, along with U.S. troops, were supporting the Yemeni military in the Shabwa governorate in a bid to oust al-Qaeda fighters entrenched there.
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