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Seneca
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Die Forschungsabteilung der US-Luftwaffe vergibt einen Auftrag für die Entwicklung eines Lasersystems für Kampfflugzeuge.
Der Rüstungskonzern Lockheed Martin soll eine solche Strahlenwaffe entwickeln, bis 2021 soll sie im Flug getestet werden.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/ruestung...affen-1.3745549
xena
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Dave76
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Manöver „Blue Flag“

Deutsche Kampfjets fliegen erstmals über Israel

Nach 100 Jahren fliegt die deutsche Luftwaffe wieder über das Heilige Land – bei der weltweit größten Luftwaffenübung. Ein früherer Teilnehmer ist nicht mehr dabei, aber ein ehemaliger Israel-Feind.

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article...ber-Israel.html



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For first time in 100 years, Luftwaffe in Israel’s skies in huge air drill

German fighters fly alongside planes from India, France, Greece, Poland, Italy, the US and Israel taking on the IAF's dreaded Red Squadron as Israel hosts biggest ever exercise

9 Nov 2017

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-first-tim...huge-air-drill/

Im zweiten Artikel ist von 6 EF die Rede, der Welt-Beitrag nennt 4.
Dave76
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Airbus reveals future New Fighter concept

Gareth Jennings - IHS Jane's International Defence Review
09 November 2017


Airbus Defence and Space (DS) has revealed a New Fighter concept that could serve as a potential replacement for the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale in the 2040-timeframe.

Speaking at the IQPC International Fighter conference in Berlin on 8 November, the company’s head of strategy, Antoine Noguier, disclosed that the manned New Fighter would be part of a family of systems known as the Future Combat Air System (FCAS).


An Airbus DS infographic showing its New Fighter concept included in the company's wider Future Air Power doctrine. (Airbus DS)
Bild klickbar

“Germany and France have taken the decision to develop a new combat aircraft to maintain sovereign and European capabilities. We see the Future Combat Air System as being a family of systems composed of manned and unmanned platforms that need to operate in a collective and collaborative way. We see a great future with the current [Eurofighter] platform, and we are developing the New Fighter also as a key element of this Future Combat Air System,” Noguier said.

Airbus first revealed details of its FCAS work for the German Bundeswehr in mid-2016, at which time it was being pitched as a potential successor to the Luftwaffe’s Panavia Tornado fleet. However, given the compressed timelines involved in that particular effort (the service needs to field a replacement in 2025 in time for a 2030 out-of-service date), the FCAS in general and the New Fighter in particular is now being seen more as a potential replacement for the Eurofighter Typhoon, which is due to be retired from German service in about 2045.

Given the collaborative arrangement agreed between Germany and France earlier this year on the development of a future European fighter aircraft, the New Fighter is also envisaged as a Rafale replacement for the French Air Force.

http://www.janes.com/article/75550/airbus-...fighter-concept
Dave76
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Nov 12, 2017

Exclusive: Japan to delay multi-billion dollar fighter jet development - sources

(Reuters) - Japan will delay a decision to develop a new advanced fighter jet, four sources said, as military planners struggle to settle on a design and officials splash out on new U.S. equipment such as ballistic missile interceptors and F-35 stealth planes.

Faced with a growing military threat from North Korea and increased activity by Chinese air force jets over the East China Sea, Japan is under pressure to improve its defenses on two fronts.

Any delay to the new fighter, known as the F-3, will raise a question mark over the future of what could be one of the world's most lucrative upcoming military contracts, estimated at more than $40 billion to develop and deploy.

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-de...s-idUSKBN1DD0D4
Dave76
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Russia Unveils New Tu-160M2 Strategic Super Bomber Update

Nov. 16, 2017

Russia has rolled out the latest upgrade of the world’s largest supersonic strategic bomber, the Tupolev Tu-160M2 “White Swan” NATO codename “Blackjack.

https://theaviationist.com/2017/11/16/russi...-bomber-update/
Dave76
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U.S. Navy Shrugs Off Northrop’s MQ-25 Snub

Nov 15, 2017

NAS PATUXENT RIVER, Maryland—Northrop Grumman’s departure from the U.S. Navy’s MQ-25 Stingray competition hasn’t fazed Naval Air Systems Command (Navair), the organization in charge of acquiring up to 72 carrier-based unmanned tankers. Rear Adm. Mark Darrah, program executive officer for unmanned aviation and strike weapons at Navair, says, “It’s their decision,” and Northrop continues to support the program under a contract for concept refinement.

Darrah confirms that a down-select to one vendor for MQ-25 is expected by late summer 2018.

The development contract will deliver four aircraft for testing and evaluation. The winner must then prove themselves by delivering the promised capability on time and on budget. If successful, they could receive follow-on contracts for the production phase.

Darrah says the program of record calls for 72 aircraft capable of operating from Nimitz or Ford-class carriers.

“We want to go as fast as we can and get them out there as quickly as we can. We’re incentivizing [the contractor] to do well in the engineering and manufacturing development phase,” he says.

The only two key performance parameters are carrier integration and mission tanking. To qualify, the proposed aircraft must be capable of offloading 14,000 lb. of gas starting at 500 mi. from the carrier.
[...]
Secondary attributes previously being considered, like 12 hr. of endurance, were removed. No new development is planned for this aircraft, just integration of mature, existing capabilities, including the government-furnished aerial refueling system (ARS), or buddy store.
[...]
Darrah says many of the competitors are already working on advanced prototypes, including flying and non-flying test articles. Based on what the contractors may or may not have already shown the Navy already, he teased that people might see something flying sooner than expected after contract award.

http://aviationweek.com/defense/us-navy-sh...op-s-mq-25-snub
Praetorian
Erstflug der russischen AWACS Beriev A-100, dem designierten Nachfolger der A-50 MAINSTAY. Sie basiert auf der modernisierten Il-76MD-90A und soll ein rotierendes AESA-Radar erhalten (Vega Premier)


*klick*


*klick*
Praetorian
Norwegen hat am 17. November die erste von 16 SAR-konfigurierten AW101 aus dem NAWSARH-Beschaffungsvorhaben (Nachfolge Sea King Mk43B) erhalten. Diese wird nach einer OT&E-Erprobung 2018 in Nutzung gehen, die weiteren 15 Lfz folgen bis 2020 und ersetzen nach und nach die Sea King auf den sechs SAR-Stationen. Die Simulatorausbildung ist mit dem im Juni fertiggestellten Level-D-Simulator in Sola bereits angelaufen.

Pressemeldung Leonardo


*klick*
Dave76
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Newest bomber technology makes history

November 20, 2017

BARKSDALE AIR FORCE BASE, La. -- History was made Nov. 6, 2017, when the first Conventional Rotary Launchers (CRL) were flown out of Barksdale Air Force Base, La. on a C-5M Super Galaxy to be used in their first ever combat area of responsibility.
CRLs are improved munitions equipment that allows B-52 Stratofortresses to carry a selection of different conventional smart weapons or GPS guided weapons.

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“Before these launchers, the B-52 was not capable of carrying smart weapons internally,” said Levandowski. “Now each CRL allows for internal carriage which adds an additional eight smart bombs per aircraft.”

The creation of these CRLs will increase the B-52’s smart weapon carrying capabilities by 67 percent.

[...]

http://www.barksdale.af.mil/News/Article/1...-makes-history/
Praetorian
ZITAT(Praetorian @ 20. Nov 2017, 18:27) *
Norwegen hat am 17. November die erste von 16 SAR-konfigurierten AW101 aus dem NAWSARH-Beschaffungsvorhaben (Nachfolge Sea King Mk43B) erhalten.

Und man hat es schon geschafft, ihn auf die Seite zu legen.

https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/qnpGLe/...eret-har-veltet
Warhammer
Na das hat ja lange gehalten... eek.gif
Father Christmas
ZITAT(Dave76 @ 23. Nov 2017, 12:20) *
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Newest bomber technology makes history
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Hier im Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWGMCBScwE
Dave76
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Pentagon’s Inspector General Praises Secret $97 Billion Bomber

By Anthony Capaccio
20. November 2017


  • Inspector general’s nod came on eve of 2015 contract award
  • Stealthy bomber will be able to carry nukes, fly unmanned


[...]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...%20Bird%20Brief
Praetorian
Airbus stellt nach knapp 20 Jahren die Produktion des H120 (ehemals EC120) ein. Das gilt auch für die Fertigung in China als HC120.

AIN Online
Edding321
X2 Flugerprobung soll im März 2018 abgeschlossen sein. Mal schauen wie es dann weiter geht.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...ch-2018-443717/
KSK
ZITAT(Praetorian @ 29. Nov 2017, 19:35) *
Airbus stellt nach knapp 20 Jahren die Produktion des H120 (ehemals EC120) ein. Das gilt auch für die Fertigung in China als HC120.

AIN Online

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We will no longer invest in entry-level helicopters like the H120.

Ist Airbus Helicopters für Entry-Level zu teuer oder woran scheitert es da?
Dave76
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Franco-German fighter jet project likely to be opened to other countries

November 29, 2017

BERLIN (Reuters) - A Franco-German program to develop a European fighter jet will likely be widened to include other countries to lower costs, officials with the German defense ministry and Europe’s Airbus said on Wednesday.

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Companies in Britain, Italy and Sweden have expressed interest in participating in the multi-billion-euro program, that is widely expected to be led by Airbus and France’s Dassault Aviation.

Bertram Gorlo, Airbus Defence and Space’s head of key account management for Germany, Austria and Switzerland, told a panel at the Berlin Security Conference that details were still being worked out, but he expected the program to be expanded to include more partners than just Germany and France.

“I think ... we will have to ask for the support of other nations,” he said.

[...]

Brigadier General Gerald Funke, head of the strategic defense planning and concepts division at the German defense ministry, said development of the next-generation aircraft system would likely begin the 2020s with the goal of seeing it enter into service in 2045.

In the meantime, he said Germany was looking at buying an existing aircraft to replace its aging fleet of 85 Tornado jets beginning in 2025.

Funke said it would be tough to avoid the national rivalries over jobs and other considerations that plagued earlier international programs like the A400M military transport plane.

“In Europe, we’re in a world where we still have national interests, industrial interests. And the more partners you have the more complicated it is,” he said.

“On the other hand, I‘m also fully convinced that we will not be able to afford a national solution alone. The key is the will of the partners to cooperate and to find compromise.”

[...]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-...%20Bird%20Brief
Hummingbird
ZITAT(KSK @ 30. Nov 2017, 11:16) *
Ist Airbus Helicopters für Entry-Level zu teuer oder woran scheitert es da?
Wenn ich mir anschaue was eine Bell 505 im Vergleich kostet, dann frage ich mich schon, wer heute noch eine 120 kauft.
Dave76
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Japan and UK to collaborate on missile development

Tokyo's first non-US partnership would develop an air-to-air weapon

November 24, 2017

TOKYO -- Japan will team with the U.K. to develop an air-to-air missile, Tokyo's first defense equipment project with a partner other than the U.S. and a potential turning point for the country's arms export policy.

The planned weapon will incorporate a powerful radar system developed by Mitsubishi Electric into European manufacturer MBDA's Meteor missile, combining long range and high accuracy. A prototype will be built at an MBDA plant starting in fiscal 2018. Live-fire testing in the U.K. is slated to begin as early as fiscal 2023, at which point Japan and the U.K. will decide whether to put the weapon into mass production.

Deployment is expected in the late 2020s. The missile likely will become equipment on the F-35 stealth fighter to be used by Japan's Air Self-Defense Force, and it could be used to defend far-flung Japanese territories such as the Senkaku Islands, which China claims as the Diaoyu. Exports to countries such as Germany and France will be considered as well.

[...]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/In...ile-development
Dave76
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REDEFINING THE NEXT GENERATION FIGHTER AIRCRAFT: BUILD OUT AIR COMBAT CAPABILITY BY SHAPING A 21ST CENTURY VERSION OF THE CENTURY AIRCRAFT

2017-12-01 By Robbin Laird and Ed Timperlake

As the USAF looks to its evolving air combat capability for 21st century operations, clearly continuing the path of innovation being shaped by the Pilot Operators of the capabilities of the fifth-generation aircraft is a crucial driver for change.

The introduction of sensor fusion aircraft with new secure communication systems and an ability to trigger a wide range of multi-domain combat assets is the foundation for understanding what comes next.

And what comes next is less a generational shift defined by the platform than by its inherent upgradeability to insert many user directed requirements furthering the ability to enhance the airpower revolution generated by the fifth generation aircraft and building out the C2 and multi-domain strike capabilities of the 21st century combat force.

It is less about a platform than what is inside those platforms but also what those platforms can provide as a driver of broader combat capabilities.

With the entering of the software defined aircraft, a platform can be its own follow on with regard to evolving capabilities within and its ability to reach out to other assets in the combat space.

This in a very similar way that the iPhone 8 is an enhanced iPhone 7.

Recently, we had a chance to talk with Secretary Michael Wynne about a way to do a 21st century version of the Century Series of tactical aircraft design and testing.

CONTINUE READING @ sldinfo.com
Edding321
Ab 0:30 darf man das neue Triebwerk der SU-57 erstmals bestaunen smile.gif

https://youtu.be/FA7cx8_Pp7k
Dave76
ZITAT(Edding321 @ 5. Dec 2017, 21:19) *
Ab 0:30 darf man das neue Triebwerk der SU-57 erstmals bestaunen smile.gif

https://youtu.be/FA7cx8_Pp7k

FlightGlobal-Artikel dazu:

Russia flies first Su-57 fitted with new Product 30 engine
Dave76
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Canada to kill Boeing Super Hornet deal

December 6, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Canadian government is poised to walk away from a deal with Boeing to buy 18 F/A-18E/F Super Hornet jets, a major blow for the future of the Boeing jet.

Canada’s Liberal government will announce next week plans to proceed with an interim buy of used F/A-18 Hornets from Australia, dashing Boeing’s hopes of a Super Hornet sale, three sources familiar with the situation told Reuters, according to a Dec. 5 report.

[...]

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/12/05/...er-hornet-deal/
MeckieMesser
Das sind eben die Konsequenzen von Handelskriegen.
Und ähnliches ist auch bei der Tornado Nachfolge zu befürchten.
Dave76
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Qatar adds a dozen more Rafales to order

07 December, 2017

Qatar will operate a future fleet of 36 Dassault Rafale fighters, having signed an option to boost a previous commitment for 24 of the type.

Announced by the manufacturer on 7 December, the development builds on a contract signed in May 2015 covering the provision of 18 single-seat Rafale EQs and six two-seat DQ-model trainers. Dassault has not disclosed whether the fresh order for 12 units will contain any additional trainers.

The Qatar Emiri Air Force is scheduled to take delivery of its first Rafale in 2018.

[...]

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...o-order-443973/


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Trials of Russia’s 5th-generation fighter jet with 2nd-stage engine to last several years

December 07, 2017

The cutting-edge fighter performed its first flight with a new engine on December 5

MOSCOW, December 7. /TASS/. The trials of Russia’s fifth-generation fighter jet Su-57 (PAK FA, the Perspective Aviation Complex of Frontline Aviation) will last several years, President of Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation Yuri Slyusar told TASS on Thursday.

"They [the trials] have just begun. They will, of course, last several years," he said.

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http://tass.com/defense/979533
Dave76
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Damaged F-22 makes comeback after six-year repair job

08 December, 2017

A Lockheed Martin F-22 grounded since a trainee pilot’s error led to a crash landing in May 2012 could be ready to return to service next March after a nearly six-year-long repair job, according to a new US Air force document.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...pair-jo-444022/
Dave76
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​Canada announces open fighter competition with caveats

12 December, 2017

Canada will hold an open competition to replace its aging CF-18 fighter fleet, but sent a firm warning to any company who might try to hurt Canadian business.

[...]

The Royal Canadian Air Force will purchase 88 advanced fighters, with a request for proposals expected in spring of 2019 and a decision by 2022, defence officials announced this week. The replacement could begin as early as 2025. Any company is welcome to bid, though officials emphasized a Canada-first policy that would continue with future procurements.

[...]

Canada did not shoot down Boeing in the long-term recapitalisation, but will let the US manufacturer’s offer of 18 F/A-18E/F models expire. Instead, the RCAF will pursue the sale of used Boeing F/A-18A/B Hornets and spare parts from the Royal Australian Air Force. The government has not cemented the purchase, with officials saying the government will respond to the letter of agreement. The government expects first deliveries in 2019 with the last of the used aircraft arriving around 2021, though the date is dependent on when the RAAF’s F/A-18 fleet is replaced by Lockheed Martin F-35s.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...th-cave-444106/
Dave76
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Qatar’s Race for Air Power

By Tamir Eshel - Dec 11, 2017

In recent months Qatar defense officials were busy signing orders and deals for 96 new fighters, in a shopping spree aimed to scale the country’s minuscule air force eightfold. When (and if) those deliveries are completed, the Qatari Emiri Air Force (QEAF) will increase its order of battle from the current nine Mirage 2000-5 fighters to 96 modern, 4.5 Generation combat jets armed with the latest weapons the Western world can offer.

Continue reading @ Defense Update
Edding321
Der Valor fliegt.

https://newatlas.com/bell-v-280-valor-maiden-flight/52663/
schleicher
warum sind denn da Teile des Bildes verpixelt?! (an den Triebwerksgondeln)
Hummingbird
Sieht aus als wenn die Gondeln immer noch nicht vollständig verkleidet wären. Das wird wohl (hoffentlich) nicht so bleiben und vielleicht wollte man sich nicht so provisorisch zeigen.
Almeran
ZITAT(schleicher @ 19. Dec 2017, 22:09) *
warum sind denn da Teile des Bildes verpixelt?! (an den Triebwerksgondeln)

Man muss ja auch nicht jedem detaillierten Einblick in das Innere der Gondeln geben wink.gif
schleicher
ich bin doofer infanterist... was ist denn da drin das es geheim ist?! (ernsthaft gefragt)
Hummingbird
nix
Dave76
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ich bin doofer infanterist... was ist denn da drin das es geheim ist?! (ernsthaft gefragt)

Da, im Gegensatz zur Osprey, bei der die gesamte Rotor-Triebwerksgondel gekippt wird, nur der Rotor und der vordere Teil der Gondel kippt, möchte man wohl verräterische Einblicke (der Konkurrenz) in den komplizierten Schwenkmechanismus verhindern.
Hummingbird
Hat Bell das Schwenkgetriebe revolutioniert? eek.gif

Ich halte das ehrlich gesagt eher für einen Marketinggag um die Aufmerksamkeit auf die Besonderheit dieses Fluggerätes zu lenken.
Dave76
Mal eine etwas bescheidener Beschaffung einer kleinen Luftwaffe:

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Irish Air Corps signs for three PC-12s

Gareth Jennings - Jane's Defence Weekly
19 December 2017


The Irish Air Corps signed for three new Pilatus PC-12 turboprop aircraft on 19 December, to replace the current Cessna 172s that have been in service since the early 1970s.


Seen here in the US Air Force service, the PC-12 will be used by the Irish Air Corps for a range of missions including MEDEVAC, logistical support, and ISR. (IHS Markit/Patrick Allen)

The contract, valued at EUR32 million (USD38 million), will see all three PC-12NG aircraft delivered to the Irish Republic between 2019 and 2020.

As noted by corps, the single-engined aircraft will be used for a range of missions, including medical evacuation (MEDEVAC), logistical support, and intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR). The contract announcement did not disclose what additional equipment might be procured to support these mission sets.

The five Cessna 172H Skyhawk aircraft that the Irish Air Corps flies are fielded by 1 Operations Wing, 104 Squadron, at Casement Airbase near Dublin. It has not been announced if this unit will transfer over to the PC-12NG or if a new one will be formed.

http://www.janes.com/article/76545/irish-a...or-three-pc-12s
Dave76
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Boeing teases with late MQ-25 contender

December 20, 2017 by australianaviation.com.au


Boeing’s MQ-25 contender shows few details. (Boeing)

Boeing has revealed its surprising late contender for the US Navy’s MQ-25 unmanned aerial refuelling system requirement.

After teasing the aviation world by Tweeting an image of the stealthy aircraft with a black sheet over it a few days ago, Boeing released a single image of its MQ-25 contender on December 19, which shows few details apart from a robust landing gear for carrier operations, a large-volume fuselage, and multiple control surfaces.

The MQ-25 requirement evolved from the UCAS an unmanned carrier-borne strike system program, for which Northrop Grumman’s X-47B UCAS-D completed a series of successful demonstrations. An RFT for the MQ-25 was issued in early October, with bids due to be submitted by January 3.

[...]

http://australianaviation.com.au/2017/12/b...q-25-contender/
Dave76
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MADE IN CHINA

Größtes Wasserflugzeug der Welt auf Jungfernflug

24.12.2017



Die Chinesen haben ein Amphibienflugzeug entwickelt, das so groß wie eine Boeing 737 ist. Damit ist es die weltweit größte Maschine, die auf dem Wasser landen kann. Sie kann auch militärisch eingesetzt werden.

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/ag60...g-15357520.html
Arado-234
Für das südchinesische Meer sicherlich eine interessante Wahl. Riesenvogel für riesen Gebiet.
Dave76
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French Navy Rafale M Fighters to Train with a US Navy Aircraft Carrier in April 2018

French Navy (Marine Nationale) Rafale M fighters will fly to the United States in April 2018 in order to conduct training and carrier qualifications from a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier. The announcement came when the U.S Navy Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) Adm. John Richardson met his French counterpart, Chief of Staff of the French Navy (CEMM) Adm. Christophe Prazuck on December 6th in Paris.

The reason for this combined training is because France's sole aircraft carrier, the Charles De Gaulle, is currently in dry dock for a major refit (its mid-life refit or ATM2 in French) since February 2017 and won't be launched until the Summer of 2018 (major refits take 18 months on average).

Contacted by Navy Recognition, a French Navy PAO could not provide the exact dates or the US Navy aircraft carrier name. The PAO explained that details are still being worked out between the two navies.

[...]

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/n...april-2018.html
Dave76
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January 1, 2018

Japan eyes electronic-warfare jet, could jam missile bases

Remote strike potential would draw nation closer to offensive capability

TOKYO -- Japan looks to deploy electronic-warfare aircraft that can neutralize enemy air defenses and command systems remotely, blurring the line between strict self-defense and offensive base-strike capability.

The country is exploring options including Boeing's EA-18G fighter jet -- nicknamed the "Growler" -- which emits large radio pulses to jam radar and communication systems. The EA-18G also carries missiles to knock out radar facilities.

The Defense Ministry intends to write the aircraft into its Mid-Term Defense Program when that plan is revised at the end of 2018, acquiring several jets between fiscal 2019 and fiscal 2023.

[...]

https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/Po...m-missile-bases
Fox2
Navy will C-2A durch CMV-22B ersetzen

US Navy Expects Its Carrier Onboard Delivery Ospreys to be Fully Operational By 2024
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17383...ational-by-2024
Schwabo Elite
Das wird ein Spaß: Die V-22 kann keine Triebwerke transportieren, weder das der F/A-18, noch das der F-35B/C. Und man lässt die Idee im Sande liegen (wahrhaftig!) dafür die S-3 umzubauen: https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-navy-...ck-f-1561134099
Warhammer
Ich dachte mal gelesen zu haben, dass die CMV-22 das schlussendlich doch können soll. Das war doch ein zentraler Punkt der USN und ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass sie das fallen lassen.
Dave76
Die (C)MV-22B kann sehr wohl das F135 Triebwerk der F-35 intern transportieren, dafür wird dieses aus seinem Transportcontainer genommen und auf eine eigens dafür konstruierten Palette gesetzt (hier 2015, während OT-1):


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Sailors and Marines remove a power module for the F-35B Lightning II aircraft from an MV-22 Osprey aircraft aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Wasp (LHD 1). U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Elizabeth Vlahos.


Schwabo Elite
@Dave
Das ist kein ganzes Triebwerk, sondern nur ein Teil davon. Das hat erhebliche Nachteile, denn während der Beladung ist das Modul ungeschützt vor Seeluft und -wasser und kann auch nicht geschlossen mit dem Rest des Triebwerks transportiert werden. Der Rest kann per Netz unter der V-22 mitfliegen, aber die Nachteile sind auch da deutlich: stark reduzierte Reichweite durch externe Last sowie völlig mangelhafter Schutz vor den Elementen. Nicht zuletzt ist dauert die Verladung auch länger, weil sie diffiziler ist.

Die V-22 hat ohnehin eine niedrigere Reichweite als die C-2(A) und kann nur in deutlich geringerer Flughöhe operieren. Das ist von besonderem Nachteil bei Sturmfronten. Die C-2(A) kann diese überfliegen, die V-22 muss mitten durch oder außen drum herum. Ersteres ist gefährlich, insbesondere bei externen Lasten von hohem ökonomischem und operativen Wert (der Pratt & Whitney F135 kostet so zwischen 10-15 Millionen Euro). Zweiteres reduziert die geringere Reichweite nur noch weiter.

Das Problem der Reichweite wird gedämpft durch die Fähigkeit zur externen Betankung und zusätzliche Treibstoffblasen in vergrößerten Seitenzellen. Aber die Treibstoffblasen allein werden die grundsätzlich unterschiedliche Reichweite von C-2A und MV-22B von gut 400 nmi nicht ausgleichen können. Im Pazifik ist so ein Unterschied nicht unerheblich und ständig einen strategischen Tanker in Reichweite zu haben ist ein logistischer Akt und macht die Logistik allein sehr angreifbar. Nicht zuletzt auch deshalb, weil die USN ein bekanntes Problem hat die Luftbetankung sicherzustellen. Auch dafür ist die CMV-22B ja angedacht. Wenn man seine COD-Flugzeuge nun direkt auch einplant sich selbst zu versorgen, werden 44 beschaffte Exemplare schnell nicht mehr ausreichen.

Im Endeffekt gibt man Reichweite und unbedingt benötigte Frachtbefähigung im Einsatz für eine Auflösung des spoke-and-wheel-Systems bei der alltäglichen Versorgung auf. Das schafft mehr Platz auf dem Landedeck. Aber nur, bis der Einsatz am laufenden Bande die Notwendigkeit für neue Triebwerke schafft.

Vgl. hier: http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17383...ational-by-2024

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The claim that the Ospreys will have “greater cargo weight capacity” than the Greyhounds deftly avoids the criticism that the tilt-rotors might not be able to accommodate the same large and oddly-shaped loads internally, especially enclosed replacement engines for other aircraft. [...]

This is not a minor issue. Bringing replacement parts, and complete engines in particular, is a critical wartime COD mission since the Navy expects its Hornets, Super Hornets, and forthcoming F-35C Joint Strike Fighters will rack up flight hours during any high-intensity conflict. [...]

This has been an issue for Marine Corps, as well, since the service has similar needs with regards to the F-35B Joint Strike Fighters on board the Navy's amphibious assault ships. In 2015, the Marines did demonstrate the ability to use an MV-22B to carry modules of the jet's F135 engine on a special skid. The B-model's lift fan, which it uses to land and take off vertically, has to travel separately via sling-load. The Marines and the Navy refined the pallet's design to make loading easier and engine maker Pratt & Whitney delivered the first production version of the system in August 2017.

But while the arrangement may be workable, it also exposes the engine to its surrounding environment without a protective shroud, and especially to corrosive sea air and salt water spray, during loading and unloading. The palletized load also requires ground crews to remove certain components in order for it to fit inside the Osprey, which maintainers would have to install again before putting the complete engine into an aircraft. The present shipping methods keep entire engines safely inside a container.


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ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 13. Jan 2018, 11:49) *
@Dave
Das ist kein ganzes Triebwerk, sondern nur ein Teil davon. Das hat erhebliche Nachteile, denn während der Beladung ist das Modul ungeschützt vor Seeluft und -wasser und kann auch nicht geschlossen mit dem Rest des Triebwerks transportiert werden. Der Rest kann per Netz unter der V-22 mitfliegen, aber die Nachteile sind auch da deutlich: stark reduzierte Reichweite durch externe Last sowie völlig mangelhafter Schutz vor den Elementen. Nicht zuletzt ist dauert die Verladung auch länger, weil sie diffiziler ist.

Das ist ein ganzes F135-Triebwerk (bzw. das sog. power module). Nur der Fan-Lift-Teil der F-35B passt nicht mit rein, das ist aber in diesem Zusammenhang irrelevant, da wir ja vom COD reden und damit eben die Carrier-Variante C betrachten. Zum mangelnden Schutz: Ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass die Navy mit ihrer Jahrzehntelangen Erfahrung weiß was sie da tut und falls dies tatsächlich ein Problem sein sollte kann man da sicherlich mittels einer Folie o.ä. einfach Abhilfe schaffen.
In den derzeitigen COD, die C-2, passt das F135 übrigens gar nicht.

ZITAT(Schwabo Elite @ 13. Jan 2018, 11:49) *
Die V-22 hat ohnehin eine niedrigere Reichweite als die C-2(A) [...]

Entschuldigung, aber das ist Quatsch:

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Where the V-22 really shines is taking the critical logistics out to a distance that gives the carrier strike group flexibility. The CMV-22B is designed to carry maximum cargo for more than 1,100 nautical miles, whereas the C-2 can’t fly that far in a maximum cargo configuration. Typical ship-to-shore planning is currently at a max range of 800-1,000 nautical miles, and the C-2A is very cargo-weight limited at that range. The Navy variant of the Osprey is not as limited—it will carry 6,000 pounds for 1,100 nautical miles, whereas the Greyhound can only take about 800 pounds of cargo with typical shore-to-ship mission planning constraints up to 1,000 nautical miles before it runs out of gas.

It is also important to note that the CMV-22B will extend its range significantly over its Marine Corps counterpart, the MV-22, with several engineering changes that provide more fuel and more operational range, making the Navy’s variant uniquely suited to the COD mission.

http://navalaviationnews.navylive.dodlive....5s-golden-mile/

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